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England wants the 2018 WC

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England wants the 2018 WC

by DD Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:16 pm

Caborn eyes 'formidable' 2018 bid

Richard Caborn believes if the Football Association bids for the 2018 World Cup to be held in England it will be a "formidable" proposal.
The former Sports Minister is now an ambassador for a possible bid, which also depends on Fifa picking Europe.

"Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the FA will get full support," Caborn told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek programme.

"I think the FA will go for it and it would be a formidable bid. It could be a golden age for sport in Britain."

He added: "In one decade, we may see the World Cup take place on these shores six years after the Olympics."

However, Caborn conceded the campaign may not even get off the ground if a major decision by football's world governing body Fifa goes against England.

"Fifa will determine which continent the 2018 World Cup will go to in November," he said.

"We are hoping Fifa chooses Europe and we will be working hard to persuade the governing body.

"There has been an unwritten rule that every third World Cup comes to Europe."

South Africa will host the 2010 World Cup, while Brazil look set to win the rights to stage the 2014 event.

England won the World Cup as hosts in 1966.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6258448.stm

Interesting. And close to Netherlands, would be like a home game for us.

And I can't resist: Trying to make up for 52 years of hurt? Biggrin

Biggrin

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by Parks lives Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:18 pm

I think every major sporting nation in Europe has had it since we have in '66, so it'd be about time.

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Re: England wants the 2018 WC

by Rosicky Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:19 pm

I hope we get it Very Happy

Very Happy

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by Sheffield gunner Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:26 pm

I honestly think England would be a good choice for the World Cup. It would almost certainly be a commercial success for FIFA which is always important for them. We've also got probably the best collection of football stadia in the world along with Germany, and with clubs like Liverpool planning new grounds this will only get better. We successfully hosted Euro '96 and as people have said it's about time we got to host the World Cup again.

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by Parks lives Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:30 pm

You think the Scots may want in on it and have some games in Scotland?

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by Sheffield gunner Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:33 pm

Parks lives wrote:You think the Scots may want in on it and have some games in Scotland?

It complicates the issue because then FIFA need to make two places available for the host nations. Both Scotland and Wales could improve the stadia on offer because they've got one or two great grounds. I think if FIFA were willing to have co-hosts then it would be worth a joint bid, but I'm not sure they would look favourably on it, so it might be best just making a solo bid for the competition.

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by TM Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:34 pm

With England to host the 2012 Olympics, which will probably be a success, i don't see why they won't get the nod over the likes of Luxembourg.

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by Parks lives Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:37 pm

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Parks lives wrote:You think the Scots may want in on it and have some games in Scotland?

It complicates the issue because then FIFA need to make two places available for the host nations. Both Scotland and Wales could improve the stadia on offer because they've got one or two great grounds. I think if FIFA were willing to have co-hosts then it would be worth a joint bid, but I'm not sure they would look favourably on it, so it might be best just making a solo bid for the competition.

Just that the Millenium Stadium and Hampden Park are brilliant stadiums.

Probably as good as anything in England bar 2-3 stadiums.

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by blutgraetsche Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:40 pm

We should do our best to ruin the party, just like you Englanders did in our case. We have influence, we should use it!

...

On the other hand, I really wouldn't mind to fly over to London for the final against you guys. Would be great actually...

This time however, with a different ending, 1996 was a good start. Smile

Smile

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by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:33 pm

So 52 years later England might win it again Shocked

Shocked

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by Rosicky Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:36 pm

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:So 52 years later England might win it again

At least we have won it Very Happy

Very Happy

cheers

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by OP9 Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:16 pm

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:So 52 years later England might win it again

<Ale>

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by Ricardo Jol Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:22 pm

The Dutch will win it in 2018... Smile

Smile

THe English will be favourites (as usual) but then their arrogance will let them down (again) so on penalties we will win the WC bid from you guys.... Ale

Ale

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by Kimbo Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:46 pm

TM wrote:With England to host the 2012 Olympics, which will probably be a success

Laughing

I haven't seen much so far to suggest it will be a success, disaster maybe.

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by Rosicky Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:47 pm

Kimbo wrote:

TM wrote:With England to host the 2012 Olympics, which will probably be a success

I haven't seen much so far to suggest it will be a success, disaster maybe.

bitter northerner, just because is dan sarf

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by Fey Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:50 pm

I think it will be a good thin for England to get the WC then, I mean lots of the people who actually witnessed 66 will be dead by then. Outside England it will never happen anyway.

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by Kimbo Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:51 pm

Rosicky wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

TM wrote:With England to host the 2012 Olympics, which will probably be a success

I haven't seen much so far to suggest it will be a success, disaster maybe.

bitter northerner, just because is dan sarf

Honestly, and this comes right from the bottom of my heart, i hope the Lardarn olympics falls flat on its ugly, arrogant, expensive, self-obsessed arse.

Ale

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by blutgraetsche Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:52 pm

Fey wrote:I think it will be a good thin for England to get the WC then, I mean lots of the people who actually witnessed 66 will be dead by then. Outside England it will never happen anyway.

1996 showed that even in England there will be ...difficulties.

The fraud of 1966 = curse

You just don't do that with the Krauts without getting punished for it. Over and over again.

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by Rasiak-9 Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:01 pm

So which stadiums will be used if we get it in 2018?

we'd need 10 right?

Obviously

Wembley
Old Trafford
Emirates
Stanley Park

but then

London Olympic Stadium?
St. James' Park?
Stadium of Light?
Goodison Park?
Villa Park?
Pride Park?
City of Manchester?
St. Mary's? (don't laugh its rated as a 4 star stadium by UEFA and hasn't hosted England matches for no reason)
White Hart Lane?
Elland Road?

I suppose we'd want them to be geographically fairly spread out as well as being good stadiums

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by Oleguerisntthatbad Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:26 pm

Ricardo Jol wrote:The Dutch will win it in 2018...

THe English will be favourites (as usual) but then their arrogance will let them down (again) so on penalties we will win the WC bid from you guys....

I am betting that Portugal will knock them out in the quarterfinal..

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by Tom Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:29 pm

Rasiak-9 wrote:So which stadiums will be used if we get it in 2018?

we'd need 10 right?

Obviously

Wembley
Old Trafford
Emirates
Stanley Park

but then

London Olympic Stadium?
St. James' Park?
Stadium of Light?
Goodison Park?
Villa Park?
Pride Park?
City of Manchester?
St. Mary's? (don't laugh its rated as a 4 star stadium by UEFA and hasn't hosted England matches for no reason)
White Hart Lane?
Elland Road?

I suppose we'd want them to be geographically fairly spread out as well as being good stadiums

Stamford Bridge? or if a new one is built then maybe that?

Anfield if the new one isnt built by then as well

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by Kimbo Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:36 pm

It's 1 stadium per city, except for 1 which can have 2(i think). So you could only pick 2 from London, or 1 if you want the 2 Manchester ones.

I think this is right.

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by Rosicky Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:36 pm

Kimbo wrote:It's 1 stadium per city, except for 1 which can have 2(i think). So you could only pick 2 from London, or 1 if you want the 2 Manchester ones.

I think this is right.

Wembley and Emirates it would be then.

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by Guest Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:36 pm

Spain should put their hat in the ring for this WC too with a Updated New camp, the New Valencia stadium amoung a host of other stadiums to be built i think they would stand a good chance.

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by Kimbo Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:39 pm

I think it would be...

The 5 certs

Wembley
Emirates
Old Trafford
St James' Park
Stadium of Shite

Then...

New Pool stadium?
Elland Road?
Villa Park?
scratch

scratch

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by Sheffield gunner Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:40 pm

How about:

Wembley
Emirates
Old Trafford
New Liverpool stadium
Stadium of Light
St James Park
Villa Park
New Portsmouth ground
Elland Road
Then, if we're allowed, maybe the COM stadium as well.

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by Tweesus Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:55 pm

If based purely on size, then the 10 stadiums should be:

1. Wembley - 90,000
2. Twickenham - 85,000
3. Old Trafford - 76,000
4. New Liverpool Stadium - 70,000ish
5 Olympic stadium? - 70,000
6. Emirates - 60,000
7. St James' - 53,000
8. Stadium of Light - 48,000
9. City of Machester - 48,000
10. Stamford Bridge - 44,000

Although I would expect them ot use Ellend Road and Villa Park.

Pompey's new ground isn't that big is it? thought it was only 35,000

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by Sheffield gunner Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:59 pm

No I don't think it's particularly big, about 36-38,000 but they normally like to see matches spread around the country and it would probably be fine for some of the smaller games in a competition.

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by Kimbo Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:00 pm

By 2018 St James' Park will probably be between 60 and 68k.

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by Tweesus Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:14 pm

Kimbo wrote:By 2018 St James' Park will probably be between 60 and 68k.

I thought the new proposed stand would only increase the capacity by 5,000? so it would be 58,000

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