Teams for 2018?

Ok well, the WC is almost behind us and everyone but Germany and Argentina are a failure!

Anyone want to venture a guess at what your nations or some other nations team will look like in 4 years?

Don't worry it's not like anyone here will dig this post up in the future to point out how wrong you were.

This is always coffeefat watching, cause in the next 4 years players will emerge that nobody ever heard of yet.

Also, I think more nations had a good WC!

Of course but it's funny to see what people predict - especially messiah!

------------------Hart------------------

Walker--Cahill--Smalling--Shaw

----------Jones--Wilshere----------

Welbeck----Rooney----Sterling

---------------Sturridge---------------

We'll be shite, Hodgson will still be manager, we'll be debating over where to play Rooney and wondering whether to bring Gerrard out of retirement because he was so good for us. I would hope for something else ofcourse.

Hart

Micah Richards
Jones
Smalling
Flanagan

Gerrard
Lampard

Townsend
Oxlade Lennon
Rooney

Januzaj

Cheeky

Here is a guess for Spain.

-----------------------De Gea

Carvajal-----S. Ramos-----J. Martínez-----J. Alba

--------------------Busquets

---------Thiago----------------Isco

Deulofeu----------Jesé-------------Muniain

Maybe something like:

----------------Neuer
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Durm

-------Schweinsteiger----Gündogan

müller------Kroos-------reus

----------Volland


Volland and Durm are the only questions, the rest of our players are simply too good to get kicked out from new talented players, the injury prone schweinsteiger has a big chance of being dropped, we are well sorted in midfield

there will be still khedira, götze, özil, schürrle

maybe goretzka, can, the benders for the CM too, at least on the bench

i don`t expect a huge change

----------------Hart

Flanagan----Cahill----Jones----Shaw

----------Henderson--Wilshere

Barkley----------Rooney---------Sterling

----------------Sturridge

I thought you was trolling cause this was the best of the WC squad thread.

Still, no Cleverley..silly Englanders.

Fey wrote:I thought you was trolling cause this was the best of the WC squad thread.

Still, no Cleverley..silly Englanders.

In 4 years time he will be at Sunderland, guaranteed, along with Welbeck. Sunderland is the retirement home for Man Utd's bronze generations.

Squad:
GK: Sirigu, Perin, Bardi
Def: Chiellini, Ranocchia, Bonucci, De Sciglio, Darmian, Biraghi/Criscito, Caldirola/Romagnoli
Mid: Verratti, Montolivo, Marchisio, Florenzi, Candreva, Bonaventura/Benassi
Str: Balotelli, Immobile, El Shaaravy, Gabbiadini, Berardi/Destro, Rossi/Insigne



Italy need a new De Rossi asap.

Impossible to say for Germany, too many variables until 2018 (Gündogan's recovery, Götze's development, new generation of players coming through etc. etc.). Making a prognosis for 2016 would be much easier.

bluenine wrote:Squad:
GK: Sirigu, Perin, Bardi
Def: Chiellini, Ranocchia, Bonucci, De Sciglio, Darmian, Biraghi/Criscito, Caldirola/Romagnoli
Mid: Verratti, Montolivo, Marchisio, Florenzi, Candreva, Bonaventura/Benassi
Str: Balotelli, Immobile, El Shaaravy, Gabbiadini, Berardi/Destro, Rossi/Insigne

El Shaaravy - Immobile - Florenzi
Veratti - Marchisio - Montolivo
Darmian - Chiellini - Ranocchia - De Sciglio
Sirigu

Italy need a new De Rossi asap.

That's not any better than the current team. And Ranocchia, really?

Ranocchia is already pretty crap now, and he's already 26. Astori is more likely to start, but will also be interesting to see how Rugani develops. Juve should recall him once Barzagli retires.

I also think that Balotelli will be in the international wilderness for a few years.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

I also think that Balotelli will be in the international wilderness for a few years.

Has he pissed people off?

christmasborocooper wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

I also think that Balotelli will be in the international wilderness for a few years.

Has he pissed people off?

Yeh, at least De Rossi, Buffon, Pirlo and Bonucci. Italian newspapers reported that he (and Cassano) spent most of their time isolated from the rest of the team. If the rest of the team doesn't like him, then it might be best to leave him out. He's not that great and there's plenty of other options in attack.

Haters beware...



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28270240

Just stop selecting him, he aint even a good footballer..

Hart

Clyne/Richards
Richards/Jones
Jones/Stones
Shaw/Gibbs

Chalobah
Henderson/Cleverley

Sterling
Barkley/Shelvey
Ox

Welbeck/Sordell

As mentioned, 4 years is a long span to make predictions, and in Italy's case it's also depressing as there are so few uncalled names of any interest or potential yet.
(yea Bonaventura, Berardi, Rugani, maaaaybe Crisetig... what else?)

So instead these are my canonical 23 to work with towards 2016:


Sirigu, Scuffet, Bardi

Darmian, Ranocchia, Chiellini, Criscito
De Sciglio, Astori, Bonucci

De Rossi, Verratti, Marchisio
Candreva, Cigarini, Montolivo, Romulo

Florenzi, Immobile, Rossi
Cerci, Destro, Insigne


Feel free to replace Destro and Insigne with Blewitelli and El Shahahaaarawy if they happen to find some spine in their closet.
For 2018 kick out Chiellini, De Rossi, Candreva, Cigarini, Montolivo and invent somebody to replace them with.

Team I'd like to see at 2016:

Forster/Hart (Hart has been absolutely awful at the 2 tournaments hes played in)

Walker/Clyne Caulker/Stones Cahill/Jones Shaw/Gibbs

Henderson/Ward Prowse Wilshere/Huddlestone

Barkley/Ox Lallana/Hughes Sterling/Townsend

Sturridge/Welbeck


Get rid of the stench that is the Golden Generation forever. Rooney included.

Kimbo's team for 2016.


-----------------------Butland-----------------------

Richards-----Cahill----Shawcross-----Cole

Barton--Henderson--Huddlestone--Milner

----------------Carroll---Welbeck----------------

Set pieces are clearly the key. 

For Holland in 4 years me thinks, 2016 will be the same as this years me thinks, with this years WC in mind. I think in Russia the Fey-jugend can become a proper Tottenkopf division! 

-----------------Cilessen/Krul------------
Janmaat--------Kongolo---de Vrij----Ake
------------------CLASIE----------------------
Strootman/van Ginkel/Schuurman------Maher/Ziyech/Vilhena
Kishna/Karsdorp-----Zivkovic/van Wolfswinkel-----Depay/Boetius

In Germany's case, a lot depends on how the new generation of players coming through, e.g. Meyer, Brandt, Werner, Gnabry, Goretzka etc., is going to develop in the coming years, not to mention the already (more or less) established, but still rather young players like Götze, Draxler, Ginter or Durm . As I wrote earlier, it's much easier to predict the 2016 team as I don't expect too many changes by then. In 2018 however, the likes of Lahm and Schweinsteiger are going to be rather old, although I can see Lahm still playing an important part then, similar to Maldini for Italy. Schweinsteiger is too injury prone to be a guaranteed starter by then I believe.

Another factor is Gündogan. Will he reach his pre-injury form again? Will he actually be able to play football on the highest level at all? In top form, he is one of the most complete midfielders in the game and for me a guaranteed starter, for club and country, but nobody can say if he'll reach that form again.

Prognosis for the 2016 team, if everything goes well:

-----------------Neuer------------------
Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Durm
------------Schweinsteiger-----------
--------Kroos-----Gündogan--------
Götze----------Müller-----------Reus

Fey wrote:For Holland in 4 years me thinks, 2016 will be the same as this years me thinks, with this years WC in mind. I think in Russia the Fey-jugend can become a proper Tottenkopf division! 

-----------------Cilessen/Krul------------
Janmaat--------Kongolo---de Vrij----Ake
------------------CLASIE----------------------
Strootman/van Ginkel/Schuurman------Maher/Ziyech/Vilhena
Kishna/Karsdorp-----Zivkovic/van Wolfswinkel-----Depay/Boetius

Is there a general agreement in Holland that there has been a decline in terms of talents coming through?

It seems to be the case but it might just be because I no longer follow the Dutch league.

Super Progress wrote:

Fey wrote:For Holland in 4 years me thinks, 2016 will be the same as this years me thinks, with this years WC in mind. I think in Russia the Fey-jugend can become a proper Tottenkopf division! 

-----------------Cilessen/Krul------------
Janmaat--------Kongolo---de Vrij----Ake
------------------CLASIE----------------------
Strootman/van Ginkel/Schuurman------Maher/Ziyech/Vilhena
Kishna/Karsdorp-----Zivkovic/van Wolfswinkel-----Depay/Boetius

Is there a general agreement in Holland that there has been a decline in terms of talents coming through?

It seems to be the case but it might just be because I no longer follow the Dutch league.

Yes, many people think the squad these days consists of computer generated names. But Holland cant sign the bigger talents from abroad, so this doesnt make the league better either.

But, there might not be a next van Persie in them, but on the other hand, I prefer teams where the average level is more or less the same, rather then have 1 or 2 superstars in your squad and the rest below average. Those players fail most of the time anyway, and makes you look like Sweden or something. And look how well the Fey-jugend did on this WC a cunthair away from a final. Nobody expected that.

Also..if this was 1994 and I would name the Dutch 1998 squad, people would say the same..so only time will tell.

Murray wrote:

bluenine wrote:Squad:
GK: Sirigu, Perin, Bardi
Def: Chiellini, Ranocchia, Bonucci, De Sciglio, Darmian, Biraghi/Criscito, Caldirola/Romagnoli
Mid: Verratti, Montolivo, Marchisio, Florenzi, Candreva, Bonaventura/Benassi
Str: Balotelli, Immobile, El Shaaravy, Gabbiadini, Berardi/Destro, Rossi/Insigne

El Shaaravy - Immobile - Florenzi
Veratti - Marchisio - Montolivo
Darmian - Chiellini - Ranocchia - De Sciglio
Sirigu

Italy need a new De Rossi asap.

That's not any better than the current team. And Ranocchia, really?

Who said Italy will get better? The "conveyor belt" has been broken for a while now.

As for Ranocchia, two reasons:
1. Hope. There is always hope.
2. Lack of alternatives.

There was a time when Ciro Ferrera struggled to get into the Italy squad. That time is long gone. A young Ciro would waltz into this current Italy side. Ranocchia is what we got. He may even end up becoming Inter's captain next season, lets hope he starts living up to his price tag soon.

Kimbo wrote:Kimbo's team for 2016.


-----------------------Butland-----------------------

Richards-----Cahill----Shawcross-----Cole

Barton--Henderson--Huddlestone--Milner

----------------Carroll---Welbeck----------------

Set pieces are clearly the key. 

Why not bring beckham back for the right wing?

Also milner, cole, and richards are a bit short.

Chris smalling and martin kelly are both tall enough for the right back slot, Luke shaw is pretty tall as well. Ryan shotton is another, he can take milner's place.