The Official Copa America 2007 thread...

it's confirmed, this will be the line-up.

Batman wrote:

Maverick wrote:Brazil

12 Doni

13 Daniel Alves
3 Alex
4 Juan
6 Gilberto

8 Gilberto Silva
19 Julio César Baptista
5 Mineiro
17 Josué

11 Robinho
9 Vagner Love

If thats the line-up then im going to sleep now. 3 DM players?

Oh FFS Dunga!

Calidad wrote:Why doesn't Matias Fernandez play?

I've been wondering about that myself...asked a few times on here but no-one seemed to know. He started the first game but hasn't featured since then!

Is Brazil's lineup a 4-3-3 and not a 4-2-2-2 as everyone is expecting?

So I'm guessing:

Doni
Defenders
Josue-Gilberto-Mineiro
Love-Baptista(coming from deep)-Robinho

Anyone watching the Mexico-Chile game?

If not, don't.

Its as boring as was expected with the Mexicans settling for the draw to top the group and the Chileans settling for a draw to go through. Although there was a decent chance for Mexico just as I write this

kas wrote:

Calidad wrote:Why doesn't Matias Fernandez play?

I've been wondering about that myself...asked a few times on here but no-one seemed to know. He started the first game but hasn't featured since then!

According to Sky Sports he is on the bench. Interesting, I was led to believe he was their 'star' player. He played well in the first game too.

Yeah I'm watching it. Nothing special like you say, though both teams do have chances and are getting into the box regularly.

Calidad wrote:

kas wrote:

Calidad wrote:Why doesn't Matias Fernandez play?

I've been wondering about that myself...asked a few times on here but no-one seemed to know. He started the first game but hasn't featured since then!

According to Sky Sports he is on the bench. Interesting, I was led to believe he was their 'star' player. He played well in the first game too.

He had a breakout season with Villarreal, and along with Mark Gonzalez I also expected him to be one of Chile's main players. But Mark Gonzalez ended up playing most of the last match at LB because of injuries, and the current match is a bit dull so he hasn't shown much, while of course Fernandez is on the bench.

todo wrote:it's confirmed, this will be the line-up.

Batman wrote:

Maverick wrote:Brazil

12 Doni

13 Daniel Alves
3 Alex
4 Juan
6 Gilberto

8 Gilberto Silva
19 Julio César Baptista
5 Mineiro
17 Josué

11 Robinho
9 Vagner Love

If thats the line-up then im going to sleep now. 3 DM players?

so we went from the line up with 1 DM to the line up with 3 DM

Knowing how football can be sometimes, Vagner Love will score a hattrick today, and cement his starting place.

I seriously want Brazil to go out now, so Diego and Naldo can join training over here. Dunga won't play them anyway.

Baptisa has the touch of a rapist. I don't understand how Brazil can have such a player. I like him because he works hard and comes across as quite a humble down-to-earth guy. But he's never selaco quality, especially employed as an AM/CM hybrid, which the lineup would suggest.

As for Vagner Love, enough has been said about him. Nice to see Elano has been ditched however.

Calidad wrote:Baptisa has the touch of a rapist. I don't understand how Brazil can have such a player. I like him because he works hard and comes across as quite a humble down-to-earth guy. But he's never selaco quality.

As for Vagner Love, enough has been said about him. Nice to see Elano has been ditched however.

baptista is a great player when he has confidence but at the moment he shouldnt play for brazil.

Baptista might be good, but even at his best he isn't Brazil first team quality imo.

Calidad, Matias Fernandez just came on

kas wrote:Calidad, Matias Fernandez just came on

Had a slight injury keeping him out of the last game, that explains things.

Talking about Fernandez...guess who's just come on...

Commentators said he's been carrying a knock. Didn't know he was the current SAPOTY.

blutgraetsche wrote:Oh FFS Dunga!

Hey, we will be facing the Mighty Ecuador, we need to protect ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry, but if this is the team i am done.

I was so excited about this Copa America, but Dunga has ruined it for me so far.

Ok, he wants a more "pragmatic" Brazil, fine, but why the f@ck does he always play the same players who have been disappointing so far? Some players like Vagner Luuuuuuuuuv seem to have a God given right of a starting place, no matter how Cr@p they play.

Diego had a bad half (played out of position, but f@ck it), and that was enough not to play him again. Guys like Luuuuuv have been Cr@p throughout, yet they never get benched. These double standards piss me off most.

At least we know Brazil have to go for a win to guarantee their qualification, so hopefully the formation won't automatically mean another dull 0-0 like the last two matches in an otherwise superb tournament.

Mark Gonzalez has been so poor today...losing the ball every time he gets it. I don't know if it's a lack of match sharpness and rhythm after a stop-start season at Liverpool, or just a one-off bad day.

blutgraetsche wrote: Some players like Vagner Luuuuuuuuuv...

kas wrote:Mark Gonzalez has been so poor today...losing the ball every time he gets it. I don't know if it's a lack of match sharpness and rhythm after a stop-start season at Liverpool, or just a one-off bad day.

Credit to Rafa for showing him the door as clearly he is not good enough. Houllier would have kept him on.

Venezuela looks such a beautiful country. Would like to go there one day. I hear the girls aren't bad either.

FT Mexico 0-0 Chile

Mexico top the group, Chile through in 2nd or 3rd place depending on Brazil's result

oh and btw Venezuela will play Uruguay in the 1/4 finals, what a bizzarre tournement format this is where you play a team in the 1/4 finals that you've just played in your group

Rasiak-9 wrote:oh and btw Venezuela will play Uruguay in the 1/4 finals, what a bizzarre tournement format this is where you play a team in the 1/4 finals that you've just played in your group

That's total stupidity
I was thinking whether that may happen, and indeed it has.

That's what you get for having just 12 teams in the competiton.

Like I said earlier: Get rid of the Gold Cup, and start a new Copa America for both North and South America, with 16 teams qualifying for it. This will solve the problem, and most probably improve the importance and image of the competition.

Well it hasn't quite happened yet, but it will assuming Brazil don't lose to Ecuador.

but yep

1/4 no. 1 is Winner of Group A(Venezuela) vs 2nd Best 3rd placed team(which will be Uruguay assuming there will be no major f@ck-up on Brazil's part)

in which case it would be just as ludicrous because Brazil or Ecuador would then go through with 2 losses and 1 win and have as good a chance to win the tournement as a team that storms their group with a 9-pointer

Rasiak-9 wrote:oh and btw Venezuela will play Uruguay in the 1/4 finals, what a bizzarre tournement format this is where you play a team in the 1/4 finals that you've just played in your group

I seriously hope it's a better game than the one yesterday. It is a crazy system though and one that needs sorting out.