Viola bid for Rossi

Ok, now I am slightly confused... what are the Viola trying to achieve?? They already have too many kids in their attack (Pazzini, Bojinov, Lupoli), and too mnay kids in the squad overall, why are they trying to add one more??

The problem is that once someone get a reputation of being a great "talent hunter", sometimes they just go overboard... it happened with Wenger, and now its happening with Corvino. They need more experience, all this youth (howeevr talented they are) can never get them the kind of consistancy that is required...


Viola join Rossi race
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Fiorentina officials are in England to table a bid for Manchester United’s Azzurrini starlet Giuseppe Rossi, according to Italian Press reports. Since selling Luca Toni to Bayern Munich for £7.5m, the Viola have been searching for a new high-profile hitman before the new campaign gets underway.

Rossi has become a wanted man since spending an impressive spell on loan to Parma last season and a bidding war is set to begin. The Ducali have expressed their intention to bring the USA-born marksman back to the Stadio Tardini, but Milan are also interested and now it seems the Tuscans are ready to invest heavily in the 20-year-old.

Fiorentina sporting director Pantaleo Corvino is reportedly ready to offer £8m with Rossi netting around £800,000 per season as a starting salary. Manchester United have set £10m as their asking price, but are likely to accept the Gigliati’s proposal as it is thought to dwarf Parma’s effort while Milan are yet to make any approach

Incredible deal for Man Utd. That loan deal at Parma must have raised his price tag by at least £5m as all he done before that was have a bad time up at Newcastle and play a few games for Man Utd vs. the likes of Burton Albion.

With Tevez, Rooney, Saha, Ronaldo and the two new kids he will find limited opportunities in England. Man Utd should take this and put it in the transfer kitty for next year.

£8m is very tempting.

I hoped that he would be given a chance here but if he goes I will follow his career which I hope to be a glorius one.

Cesc wrote:Incredible deal for Man Utd. That loan deal at Parma must have raised his price tag by at least £5m as all he done before that was have a bad time up at Newcastle and play a few games for Man Utd vs. the likes of Burton Albion.

With Tevez, Rooney, Saha, Ronaldo and the two new kids he will find limited opportunities in England. Man Utd should take this and put it in the transfer kitty for next year.

The talent was already there, he scored a lot of goals for Parma when he was a kid, he scored loads of goals for united reserves, he scored on his premiership debut, impressed on his U21 debut and scored lots of goals for Parma.

He has played well in every team that plays football, he is a fantastic talent and if he can score 9 goals for a relegation candidate in half a season, I think he could score 15 goals in a full season for a CL team.

I still believe he will become a top player and its a shame that his height will stop him from becoming this player, at united. I hope he goes to Milan, were he can learn of Ronaldo.

@Blue

Lupoli and Rossi formed an awesome partnership at Parma, Fiorentina are just trying to recreate it. Its good that the Italians are finally putting their trust in youth.

@Kimbo

Last time I checked, I didnt notice any big clubs (Milan, Juve, Fiorentina and Porto) trying to buy the Zog. I guess some of the worlds best football scouts, dont know what you know.

What's this got to do with me?

Anyway, Arsenal were linked to the Zog for pretty much the whole of the last season. So your point is wrong. Also The Zog isn't surplus to requirements here, so any bidding would be pointless.

You miss the point. Rossi is a talented lad, but not good for Fiorentina... coz the viola already have a lot of talented kids in their squad... so many of their starters are already young (Montolivo, Donadel, Pasqual, Pazzini, Bojinov, Potenza, Paolucci, Lupoli, etc) and hence desperately need some experience.

Even if you buy the 20 most talented youngsters in the world, that squad will not win much coz they will lack the consistancy.... somethings come with experience.

Rossi will be a great but for Parma... even for Milan, but not for Fiorentina.

Bon voyage Rossi wrote:

@Blue
Lupoli and Rossi formed an awesome partnership at Parma, Fiorentina are just trying to recreate it. Its good that the Italians are finally putting their trust in youth.

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Cesc wrote:Incredible deal for Man Utd. That loan deal at Parma must have raised his price tag by at least £5m .

We were comparing this guy to rooney and ronaldo and you think he was worth 3 million
For me it is a good deal for rossi an ok deal for us, he is a very talented player who i would still prefer to stay even for 10 mill.

Kimbo wrote:What's this got to do with me?

Anyway, Arsenal were linked to the Zog for pretty much the whole of the last season. So your point is wrong. Also The Zog isn't surplus to requirements here, so any bidding would be pointless.

Not much, but I knew you would read this thread

He probably won't be sold for a few weeks yet what ever happens.

L.r.d wrote:

Cesc wrote:Incredible deal for Man Utd. That loan deal at Parma must have raised his price tag by at least £5m .

We were comparing this guy to rooney and ronaldo and you think he was worth 3 million
For me it is a good deal for rossi an ok deal for us, he is a very talented player who i would still prefer to stay even for 10 mill.

I was looking at the £10m price tag in the original article. I would have rated him at £5m and I am sure other clubs would have done at that time. I know he is a very talented player, but the reserves only count for so much in the game.

I guess it will drag out this proposed deal.

bluenine wrote:You miss the point. Rossi is a talented lad, but not good for Fiorentina... coz the viola already have a lot of talented kids in their squad... so many of their starters are already young (Montolivo, Donadel, Pasqual, Pazzini, Bojinov, Potenza, Paolucci, Lupoli, etc) and hence desperately need some experience.

Even if you buy the 20 most talented youngsters in the world, that squad will not win much coz they will lack the consistancy.... somethings come with experience.

Rossi will be a great but for Parma... even for Milan, but not for Fiorentina.

Bon voyage Rossi wrote:

@Blue
Lupoli and Rossi formed an awesome partnership at Parma, Fiorentina are just trying to recreate it. Its good that the Italians are finally putting their trust in youth.

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I see your point, fiorentina are creating a team full of little rascals to rival Arsenal.

They do need a core of experienced players, to lead the team and it wouldnt be wise for them to sign another youngster. However sometimes you have to make an exception, for exceptional talent

I would prefer him to join Milan anyway, if we are selling him.

Bojinov is bound to leave, and Corvino is trying hard to bring in Ljungberg to add valuable experience.

Anyway, it seems that Viola's board still thinks they are in incubation phase.

I guess they're waiting for the tv rights reform to kick in before starting to think large, and in the meanwhile they feel it's better to collect as many youngster they can, get them some international experience in the Uefa Cup playground, and trying to set Fiorentina as the third/fourth domestic force with some long term buys, more than with some instant shot mature player.

Then in a couple of year they will definitely ready for prime time.


My only doubt is that I thought they were going to buy a big striker with a clinical finish to replace Toni, someone like a Lucarelli - no Mutu, neither Pazzini, Rossi or Lupoli have that profile. Anyway it seems they think those can still contribute a good number of goals, while they'll probably change style of play to accomodate the absence of a real pivot upfront.

bluenine wrote:You miss the point. Rossi is a talented lad, but not good for Fiorentina... coz the viola already have a lot of talented kids in their squad... so many of their starters are already young (Montolivo, Donadel, Pasqual, Pazzini, Bojinov, Potenza, Paolucci, Lupoli, etc) and hence desperately need some experience.

Even if you buy the 20 most talented youngsters in the world, that squad will not win much coz they will lack the consistancy.... somethings come with experience.

Rossi will be a great but for Parma... even for Milan, but not for Fiorentina.

Yeah, I think they believe Pazzini can fill those shoes And what probably makes them so confident is coz Mutu scored so many goals last season... that may not happen again...

And now I believe the Viola are after 22 yr old Nocerino

abundance wrote:

My only doubt is that I thought they were going to buy a big striker with a clinical finish to replace Toni, someone like a Lucarelli - no Mutu, neither Pazzini, Rossi or Lupoli have that profile. Anyway it seems they think those can still contribute a good number of goals, while they'll probably change style of play to accomodate the absence of a real pivot upfront.

bluenine wrote:You miss the point. Rossi is a talented lad, but not good for Fiorentina... coz the viola already have a lot of talented kids in their squad... so many of their starters are already young (Montolivo, Donadel, Pasqual, Pazzini, Bojinov, Potenza, Paolucci, Lupoli, etc) and hence desperately need some experience.

Even if you buy the 20 most talented youngsters in the world, that squad will not win much coz they will lack the consistancy.... somethings come with experience.

Rossi will be a great but for Parma... even for Milan, but not for Fiorentina.

Would Lucarelli join the Viola though?

What political persuasion are fiorentina. I could see him ever joining a right wing club

Politics would not be an issue - Fiorentina's ultras are quite politically agnostic, they just don't care.

A bigger issue would be the rivalry between the cities, which got quite heated in the last derbies - with Lucarelli also making gestures to viola fans.

Anyway I think he would be well received in Florence, and that Lucarelli could accept given also his late dissaffection with Livorno fanbase.
There were some rumors about it but the chance is quite out of the cards at the moment.

Do they still play 4-3-3?

Is this linked to the rumour that Arsenal are interested in Bojinov as part of Ljungberg deal. They might get Ljungberg and cash in lieu of Bojinov which can be used to partially finance Rossi.

I woudln't be very keen on getting Bojinov as part of the deal.

We've bought eduardo and are apparently also keen on Gouffran.

Bojinov wouldn't have many first team opportunities, if any!

uhm if Arsenal wants £8 for the swede, I don't see Fiorentina getting too much cash over the swap. Anyway Corvino is good at selling.

I sincerely doubt we'll get £8m. Ljungberg has been pants for 2 seasons now

Two stupid clubs, when will they learn that you need some experience in your sqaud... with Henry gone, it is important for Arsenal to hold on to Ljungberg for continuity and experience... and buy a couple quality experienced players... but most of the players linked to them are young... Arsenal are as stupid as Fiorentina. These clubs could actually challenge for the title if they buy more sensibly this summer... but the way they are going, they will be fighting for CL spots at best... what a waste of talent...

aby_gooner wrote:Is this linked to the rumour that Arsenal are interested in Bojinov as part of Ljungberg deal. They might get Ljungberg and cash in lieu of Bojinov which can be used to partially finance Rossi.