Homethat was some nice combinations of the gila goal. they are killing them on the counter.i dont know if they are out of their crisis because of this becuase they still seem to have problems when teams play defensive.
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Serie A - The 2007-08 season thread
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The Table
1 Inter 17
2 Juventus 14
3 Roma 14
4 Fiorentina 13
5 Genoa 12
6 Palermo 11
7 Udinese 11
8 Milan 10
9 Napoli 10
10 Atalanta 10
11 Catania 9
12 Sampdoria 8
13 Lazio 7
14 Torino 7
15 Cagliari 7
16 Siena 6
17 Parma 6
18 Empoli 5
19 Reggina 4
20 Livorno 2
The Capocannonieri Race:
Trezeguet Juventus 7
Ibrahimovic Inter 7 (2 pens)
Totti Roma 6
Kaka Milan 6 (4)
Borriello Genoa 5 (1)
Mutu Fiorentina 5 (2)
Iaquinta Juventus 4 (1)
Foggia Cagliari 4 (4)
1 Inter 17
2 Juventus 14
3 Roma 14
4 Fiorentina 13
5 Genoa 12
6 Palermo 11
7 Udinese 11
8 Milan 10
9 Napoli 10
10 Atalanta 10
11 Catania 9
12 Sampdoria 8
13 Lazio 7
14 Torino 7
15 Cagliari 7
16 Siena 6
17 Parma 6
18 Empoli 5
19 Reggina 4
20 Livorno 2
The Capocannonieri Race:
Trezeguet Juventus 7
Ibrahimovic Inter 7 (2 pens)
Totti Roma 6
Kaka Milan 6 (4)
Borriello Genoa 5 (1)
Mutu Fiorentina 5 (2)
Iaquinta Juventus 4 (1)
Foggia Cagliari 4 (4)
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Yep Lazio have counterattacking team, but now lack the architect Ledesma. Rocchi will be gutted.supermadrid wrote:that was some nice combinations of the gila goal. they are killing them on the counter.i dont know if they are out of their crisis because of this becuase they still seem to have problems when teams play defensive.
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they do seem to be too relient on their "brain".i still think they can do well and get over this crisis.jonathan de guzman wrote:Yep Lazio have counterattacking team, but now lack the architect Ledesma. Rocchi will be gutted.supermadrid wrote:that was some nice combinations of the gila goal. they are killing them on the counter.i dont know if they are out of their crisis because of this becuase they still seem to have problems when teams play defensive.
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I assume Gila and Pippo weren't playing together. Who was it that said they're two sharks hunting in the same waters?
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Re: Serie A - The 2007-08 season thread
by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:45 pm
Gila's second goal was great.
I think this was a combination of a good Milan performance with a shocking Lazio goalkeeping performance.
Kaka and Gila were great though!
Forza Milan!
I think this was a combination of a good Milan performance with a shocking Lazio goalkeeping performance.
Kaka and Gila were great though!
Forza Milan!
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Welcome to the top half of the table, Forza 
I think after the international break, both milan teams wil improve as many players will be back from injury... I hope Inter can keep the same distance from Milan till dec... But I am sure Milan will be in the top 3 by dec... and so will Roma, who will not drop too many points now that most of their tough games are over.
I think after the international break, both milan teams wil improve as many players will be back from injury... I hope Inter can keep the same distance from Milan till dec... But I am sure Milan will be in the top 3 by dec... and so will Roma, who will not drop too many points now that most of their tough games are over.
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Gila's second goal was great.
I think this was a combination of a good Milan performance with a shocking Lazio goalkeeping performance.
Kaka and Gila were great though!
Forza Milan!
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Re: Serie A - The 2007-08 season thread
by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:00 am
bluenine wrote:Welcome to the top half of the table, Forza
I think after the international break, both milan teams wil improve as many players will be back from injury... I hope Inter can keep the same distance from Milan till dec... But I am sure Milan will be in the top 3 by dec... and so will Roma, who will not drop too many points now that most of their tough games are over.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Gila's second goal was great.
I think this was a combination of a good Milan performance with a shocking Lazio goalkeeping performance.
Kaka and Gila were great though!
Forza Milan!
We need to do equally well against provincial teams who give us little space. That is where a league is won. Against the Regginas, Sienas, Cagliaris, Inters...
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I am planning to go for your game with the "provencial team" of Inter... we will see, hopefully we will extend our lead to double digits after that, provided you can keep it down to single number till then! 
I agree re Lazio gk, Mulsera was dreadful... except for the 5th goal, you can almost blame him for the first 4!!! Lazio should just continue with Ballotta, he is much much better even at 44!
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:bluenine wrote:Welcome to the top half of the table, Forza
I think after the international break, both milan teams wil improve as many players will be back from injury... I hope Inter can keep the same distance from Milan till dec... But I am sure Milan will be in the top 3 by dec... and so will Roma, who will not drop too many points now that most of their tough games are over.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Gila's second goal was great.
I think this was a combination of a good Milan performance with a shocking Lazio goalkeeping performance.
Kaka and Gila were great though!
Forza Milan!
We need to do equally well against provincial teams who give us little space. That is where a league is won. Against the Regginas, Sienas, Cagliaris, Inters...
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I think Semioli was fouled inside the penalty area... it would have been a harsh penalty coz Semioli was going nowhere, but it was a foul.
And Vieri's effort did hit Legrotaglie's hand, so a penalty was deserved.
Also what about the time when Chiellini wrestled Vieri to the ground.. again, it was an off the ball incident, but it was a foul inside the penalty area.
But I must add, looking at the video's again, looks like Juve's goal was legit and it was a good call by the refree... Treze was not blocking Frey's view, so it was a close call and would have been a bit harsh if the goal wasn't given.
Anyways, was a good game. Fiorentina are looking good, but they are missing Toni as Pazzini hasn't shaped up like Prandelli was hoping for... Perhaps Vieri will start scoring his usual numbers soon. Or maybe Osvaldo will step up and take Pazzini's place.
And Vieri's effort did hit Legrotaglie's hand, so a penalty was deserved.
Also what about the time when Chiellini wrestled Vieri to the ground.. again, it was an off the ball incident, but it was a foul inside the penalty area.
But I must add, looking at the video's again, looks like Juve's goal was legit and it was a good call by the refree... Treze was not blocking Frey's view, so it was a close call and would have been a bit harsh if the goal wasn't given.
Anyways, was a good game. Fiorentina are looking good, but they are missing Toni as Pazzini hasn't shaped up like Prandelli was hoping for... Perhaps Vieri will start scoring his usual numbers soon. Or maybe Osvaldo will step up and take Pazzini's place.
Pierre Littbarski wrote:I like Prandelli but it wasn't a pen on Semioli and neither goal should have been so evens in the end.
He fucked up by not playing Liverani IMO (assuming he was available?)
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I remember this... 4-5 years ago, when Totti had got really disillusioned by Roma's credentials when they did not build on the scudetto win.... Moratti mentioned that Inter are close breaking the world record transfer fee again...
That would have been so cool. But for now, in Ibra we trust!
That would have been so cool. But for now, in Ibra we trust!
I Wanted Totti At Inter, Reveals Moratti
The Inter President admitted that the Roma player was close to an Inter move, but Sensi had stopped the transfer from happening. Massimo Moratti told the Corriere dello Sport that Francesco Totti could have been an Inter player if Franco Sensi had not halted the negotiation between the player and the Nerazzurri. "Totti has become an exceptional attacker," declared the President of the Nerazzurri, "But Sensi had told me no. Roma is the strongest rival, but I will hang on to Ibrahimovic."
Moratti is very satisfied with the start of the season of Inter, indicating the win at Rome as the decisive one so far. "I did not think that Inter would be so strong already," he admitted. "We have not run away, but we have launched a good signal to all the competition. "The win against Roma is surely the most important stage of this early part of the season," he said.
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The difference between Prandelli and Galliani. 
Must add, mancio isn't much better at this either, but Galliani is pits... one would think people will be ok with a few small refree errors when they win 5-1!!!
Must add, mancio isn't much better at this either, but Galliani is pits... one would think people will be ok with a few small refree errors when they win 5-1!!!
Galliani Attacks Referee
The vice-President of the Rossoneri accused the man in black of making too many mistakes during the game which Milan won against Lazio on Sunday evening. Adriano Galliani was still fuming at the end of the match which the Rossoneri won 5-1 against the Biancocelesti due to what he considered terrible mistakes. "I saw terrible mistakes," confirmed the vice-President who also revealed that he was calling his son during the game. "I was calling my son who was in front of the TV and he confirmed to me what I was seeing. Against us there were many referee mistakes."
Galliani then commented his team's performance against the Biancocelesti.
bluenine wrote:I feel bad for Prandelli... his side plays the most entertaining game in Italy, and they always play fair... Juve goal was offside, and I think Semioli should have been given a penatly. Fiorentina deserved to win this one...
$h!t happens, sometimes. Glad to see Prandelli making mature comments, instead of blaming the refree or talking about cheating...
There were some controversial moments, as the Juventus goal could have been disallowed for a David Trezeguet offside position and Christian Vieri had late penalty appeals. “Some say we don’t complain enough, but we are the ones who must try to calm the tension in football,” warned Prandelli. “We met with the UEFA delegates this week as well and they asked everyone to be fair, which does not mean being weak. We didn’t put the referee under pressure, but with an incident in our favour perhaps the game would have changed.”
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bluenine wrote: Moratti mentioned that Inter are close breaking the world record transfer fee again...
For who?
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Tweedle wrote:bluenine wrote: Moratti mentioned that Inter are close breaking the world record transfer fee again...
For who?
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Totti, who else. At one time, Roma could have just mentioned their price... Inter would have paid £60-70 million without an issue.
Tweedle wrote:bluenine wrote: Moratti mentioned that Inter are close breaking the world record transfer fee again...
For who?
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I was just speculating on Messi. 
Can I add that Muslera did not cover himself in glory with Ambrosini's opener.
Great game between The Viola & the Old Lady.... If only Mutu had scored that volley...
Totti was simply unstoppable in the form he showed against Parma.
Zlatan >>> Kaka' = Genius
Cruz's 2nd goal was a great finish.
Can I add that Muslera did not cover himself in glory with Ambrosini's opener.
Great game between The Viola & the Old Lady.... If only Mutu had scored that volley...
Totti was simply unstoppable in the form he showed against Parma.
Zlatan >>> Kaka' = Genius
Cruz's 2nd goal was a great finish.
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Hot Scholes, Token Classwrote:
Tweedle wrote:bluenine wrote: Moratti mentioned that Inter are close breaking the world record transfer fee again...
For who?
Well, that's not going to happen.
If Barca are even willing to listen to bids, I can think of a couple of clubs that would be willing to match any fee Inter come up with
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by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:07 pm
bluenine wrote:The difference between Prandelli and Galliani.
Must add, mancio isn't much better at this either, but Galliani is pits... one would think people will be ok with a few small refree errors when they win 5-1!!!
Galliani Attacks Referee
The vice-President of the Rossoneri accused the man in black of making too many mistakes during the game which Milan won against Lazio on Sunday evening. Adriano Galliani was still fuming at the end of the match which the Rossoneri won 5-1 against the Biancocelesti due to what he considered terrible mistakes. "I saw terrible mistakes," confirmed the vice-President who also revealed that he was calling his son during the game. "I was calling my son who was in front of the TV and he confirmed to me what I was seeing. Against us there were many referee mistakes."
Galliani then commented his team's performance against the Biancocelesti.bluenine wrote:I feel bad for Prandelli... his side plays the most entertaining game in Italy, and they always play fair... Juve goal was offside, and I think Semioli should have been given a penatly. Fiorentina deserved to win this one...
$h!t happens, sometimes. Glad to see Prandelli making mature comments, instead of blaming the refree or talking about cheating...
There were some controversial moments, as the Juventus goal could have been disallowed for a David Trezeguet offside position and Christian Vieri had late penalty appeals. “Some say we don’t complain enough, but we are the ones who must try to calm the tension in football,” warned Prandelli. “We met with the UEFA delegates this week as well and they asked everyone to be fair, which does not mean being weak. We didn’t put the referee under pressure, but with an incident in our favour perhaps the game would have changed.”
Moratti and especially Mancini complain all the time. Mancini is perpetually on the rag.
The calls against us were incomprehensible. We should have won 7-1.
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Its better to get all the bad luck in a game you've won 5-1 than in a tight game where the decisions can genuinely cost you though 
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bluenine wrote:The difference between Prandelli and Galliani.
Must add, mancio isn't much better at this either, but Galliani is pits... one would think people will be ok with a few small refree errors when they win 5-1!!!
Galliani Attacks Referee
The vice-President of the Rossoneri accused the man in black of making too many mistakes during the game which Milan won against Lazio on Sunday evening. Adriano Galliani was still fuming at the end of the match which the Rossoneri won 5-1 against the Biancocelesti due to what he considered terrible mistakes. "I saw terrible mistakes," confirmed the vice-President who also revealed that he was calling his son during the game. "I was calling my son who was in front of the TV and he confirmed to me what I was seeing. Against us there were many referee mistakes."
Galliani then commented his team's performance against the Biancocelesti.bluenine wrote:I feel bad for Prandelli... his side plays the most entertaining game in Italy, and they always play fair... Juve goal was offside, and I think Semioli should have been given a penatly. Fiorentina deserved to win this one...
$h!t happens, sometimes. Glad to see Prandelli making mature comments, instead of blaming the refree or talking about cheating...
There were some controversial moments, as the Juventus goal could have been disallowed for a David Trezeguet offside position and Christian Vieri had late penalty appeals. “Some say we don’t complain enough, but we are the ones who must try to calm the tension in football,” warned Prandelli. “We met with the UEFA delegates this week as well and they asked everyone to be fair, which does not mean being weak. We didn’t put the referee under pressure, but with an incident in our favour perhaps the game would have changed.”
Small? We had 2 penaltys not given plus a lot of other incredible misteks. All against us. And this is not only about this game. Palermo, Siena, Catania all against us.
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by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:53 pm
Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
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Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
I 100% agree with you. Ridiculous calls are ridiculous calls. You winning 5-1 is not the issue at all and I don't blame Galliani for complainig.
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Personally, I think everyone should stop complaining about refrees... Galliani, Mancio, Moratti, Ancellotti, everyone! I like Prandelli's take on this, the refs have a tough job, and they can make mistakes.
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
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bluenine wrote:Personally, I think everyone should stop complaining about refrees... Galliani, Mancio, Moratti, Ancellotti, everyone! I like Prandelli's take on this, the refs have a tough job, and they can make mistakes.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
That's the funny coming from a Inter fan. For the last 10 or so years Inter (and most of their fans) have done nothing but complained about the refs.
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And our worst allegations were proved to be spot on. We could literally see this happening game to game for over 10 years!! Coz that was pre calciopoli, and now its been proven that the refs were dancing to Juve's tunes.
But now people are just complaining about refs mistakes... unless you are alleging another calciopoli, its best to just forget about it and get on... if you are going to scream calciopoli on every ref error, then thats just bad taste.
But now people are just complaining about refs mistakes... unless you are alleging another calciopoli, its best to just forget about it and get on... if you are going to scream calciopoli on every ref error, then thats just bad taste.
gone wrote:bluenine wrote:Personally, I think everyone should stop complaining about refrees... Galliani, Mancio, Moratti, Ancellotti, everyone! I like Prandelli's take on this, the refs have a tough job, and they can make mistakes.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
That's the funny coming from a Inter fan. For the last 10 or so years Inter (and most of their fans) have done nothing but complained about the refs.
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bluenine wrote:And our worst allegations were proved to be spot on. We could literally see this happening game to game for over 10 years!! Coz that was pre calciopoli, and now its been proven that the refs were dancing to Juve's tunes.
But now people are just complaining about refs mistakes... unless you are alleging another calciopoli, its best to just forget about it and get on... if you are going to scream calciopoli on every ref error, then thats just bad taste.gone wrote:bluenine wrote:Personally, I think everyone should stop complaining about refrees... Galliani, Mancio, Moratti, Ancellotti, everyone! I like Prandelli's take on this, the refs have a tough job, and they can make mistakes.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
That's the funny coming from a Inter fan. For the last 10 or so years Inter (and most of their fans) have done nothing but complained about the refs.
It's not like we haven't lost important points in this rounds because of the ref mistakes. Let's see: Siena - clear offside at their goal - we lost 2 points, Palermo - handball at their first goal we lost 1 - 3 points (that was the turning point of the game). The game against Lazio was the worst. So we lost about 5 points so far. How many points are you in front so far?
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Gone, stop hiding behind your real problems. You are behind us coz we are playing much better football. Your strikers can't find the goals, thats why you are behind.
There are 1-2 poor decisions against us too every game, we have had a coupla poor offside decisions given against us as well, but we have managed to score other goals. Milan haven't. Thats the difference. The refreeing errors will even themselves out by the end of the season, I do agree that Fiorentina and Milan have got tougher luck than others... but only just.
The fact is that right now, Inter, Roma, Fiorentina and Juventus are playing better football than Milan. They are taking their chances while your strikers are missing open goals. Maybe that will change after your win at Lazio, that should have given Gila & Co some confidence. But please, be under no illusion why you are behind these teams.
There are 1-2 poor decisions against us too every game, we have had a coupla poor offside decisions given against us as well, but we have managed to score other goals. Milan haven't. Thats the difference. The refreeing errors will even themselves out by the end of the season, I do agree that Fiorentina and Milan have got tougher luck than others... but only just.
The fact is that right now, Inter, Roma, Fiorentina and Juventus are playing better football than Milan. They are taking their chances while your strikers are missing open goals. Maybe that will change after your win at Lazio, that should have given Gila & Co some confidence. But please, be under no illusion why you are behind these teams.
gone wrote:bluenine wrote:And our worst allegations were proved to be spot on. We could literally see this happening game to game for over 10 years!! Coz that was pre calciopoli, and now its been proven that the refs were dancing to Juve's tunes.
But now people are just complaining about refs mistakes... unless you are alleging another calciopoli, its best to just forget about it and get on... if you are going to scream calciopoli on every ref error, then thats just bad taste.gone wrote:bluenine wrote:Personally, I think everyone should stop complaining about refrees... Galliani, Mancio, Moratti, Ancellotti, everyone! I like Prandelli's take on this, the refs have a tough job, and they can make mistakes.Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Actually it would be far more reprehensible if Galliani didn't complain after a big win, and we had had many poor calls. If he believes in the principle then it should not matter whether Milan wins 2-0, 3-0, or loses 4-0. The calls were egregious.
That's the funny coming from a Inter fan. For the last 10 or so years Inter (and most of their fans) have done nothing but complained about the refs.
It's not like we haven't lost important points in this rounds because of the ref mistakes. Let's see: Siena - clear offside at their goal - we lost 2 points, Palermo - handball at their first goal we lost 1 - 3 points (that was the turning point of the game). The game against Lazio was the worst. So we lost about 5 points so far. How many points are you in front so far?
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You talk about offsides, I'm not even counting that. I'm talking about CLEAR bad decisions that influenced the game. You don't think that lossing 5 points in 7 games is not much? Yes, we had problems with our strikers but that shouldn't have matter because we should have and could have won those games.
"The refreeing errors will even themselves out by the end of the season."
I wonder if you would have said that if Inter the team. I'm not saying Inter are to blame but maybe some ref are affraid that if they make a mistake in Milans favore then everyone will start accusing them so they jugde the plays against us to be sure. And this has to stop.
"The refreeing errors will even themselves out by the end of the season."
I wonder if you would have said that if Inter the team. I'm not saying Inter are to blame but maybe some ref are affraid that if they make a mistake in Milans favore then everyone will start accusing them so they jugde the plays against us to be sure. And this has to stop.
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Re: Serie A - The 2007-08 season thread
by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:04 pm
The calls certainly haven't helped. We haven't had the rub of the green when it comes to that.
But we haven't exactly been scintillating either. The fact remains that we need to break down teams that come to the San Siro for a point. Close to the end of the season, we also improve because those very teams need results to avoid relegation or even the threat of relegation.
To address that, I think we need to attack quicker, and our fullbacks need to cross more precisely. Also, it may not be a bad idea to play with one DM (either Ambro or Gattuso) in these games.
But we haven't exactly been scintillating either. The fact remains that we need to break down teams that come to the San Siro for a point. Close to the end of the season, we also improve because those very teams need results to avoid relegation or even the threat of relegation.
To address that, I think we need to attack quicker, and our fullbacks need to cross more precisely. Also, it may not be a bad idea to play with one DM (either Ambro or Gattuso) in these games.
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I think Ronaldo and later Pato will solve most of your problems.... but Galliani will be foolish if he does not get in another quality attacking player in the winter break...
I agree... against smaller teams, you need to play with one DM. When is the Puma back??
I agree... against smaller teams, you need to play with one DM. When is the Puma back??
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:The calls certainly haven't helped. We haven't had the rub of the green when it comes to that.
But we haven't exactly been scintillating either. The fact remains that we need to break down teams that come to the San Siro for a point. Close to the end of the season, we also improve because those very teams need results to avoid relegation or even the threat of relegation.
To address that, I think we need to attack quicker, and our fullbacks need to cross more precisely. Also, it may not be a bad idea to play with one DM (either Ambro or Gattuso) in these games.
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