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The failings of Chelsea

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The failings of Chelsea

by Tweesus Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:03 pm

Will Mourinho be manager come next season

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Will Chelsea ever play attractive football again

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Will Lampard suspiciously contract food poisoning and die a lonely painful death

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These questions all need answering Wink

Wink

More importantly, what is generally going on with Chelsea? They have had the best of starts to the season yet again, despite having made some promising signings in the summer. The latest of which has been an abismal 1-1 draw at home to Rosenborg.

They also still seem to struggle to fill a stadium that is 35,000 below the capacity of Man Utd and 20,000 below the capacity of Arsenal. Many of the 'true' fans are complaining about the influx of gloryhunters and the lack of atmosphere within the walls of Stamford Bridge is noticeable.

Abrahmovich last night was LAUGHING when Rosenborg scored Shocked

Shocked

Something has to change. Firstly, I think Mourinho must go. He's become bigger than the club, and this is a club that has ambitions of being BIG. They need to bring in someone that will entertain the fans. No one wants to watch a bunch of supposedly world class player lump the ball around for 90 minutes only to scrape a 1-0 win in the last few minutes. The fans surely want to be entertained, that is, at the end of the day what makes football a spectacle and also its what attracts people to the gates. The cost of a ticket there is also extortionate which is pricing out the average fan. Chelsea would do better to charge more for the boxes and charge less for the average seat. Arsenal could also take a leaf out of this book of thoughts.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by lrdsucksgoats Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:12 pm

Tweedle wrote:The cost of a ticket there is also extortionate which is pricing out the average fan. Chelsea would do better to charge more for the boxes and charge less for the average seat. Arsenal could also take a leaf out of this book of thoughts.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Sgoater1 Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:13 pm

Its funny what can happen in just a few weeks in football, a few weeks ago and many thought it was all over for U*d and it would be Chelsea and Liverpool who would dominate this season, now a few weeks later and its all change. My point is that in a few weeks later it might have all changed around again.

Still overall i do think Chelsea need a change Jose dosnt seem happy (especially not with Shev), his relationship with Ambrahmovic is obviously strained. I think even if they win the Champs League he Mourinho will leave, this season will be his last.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Tweesus Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:18 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:Its funny what can happen in just a few weeks in football, a few weeks ago and many thought it was all over for U*d and it would be Chelsea and Liverpool who would dominate this season, now a few weeks later and its all change. My point is that in a few weeks later it might have all changed around again.

Still overall i do think Chelsea need a change Jose dosnt seem happy (especially not with Shev), his relationship with Ambrahmovic is obviously strained. I think even if they win the Champs League he Mourinho will leave, this season will be his last.

Lets be fair though. Utd were missing Rooney, Saha and Ronaldo and have been playing attractive attacking football for a decade.

Chelsea have been playing snorefest football for over three years now. As you say, Mourinho's relationship with Ambrosiavich isn't helping the stability at the club much either.

@ saints

I included that pricing bit just for you Wink

Wink

A nice little 'hook' for you

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Lard Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:23 pm

As we have seen with in particular Holland, if there is trouble inside the team then it shows out on the pitch. Mourinho doesnt seem to even like half his players. The owner doesnt like him and he doesnt like the owner. Kenyon seems to get in the way. Does he have control over signings anymore? There is pressure on him from all sides.....the result is Chelsea are a mess Biggrin

Biggrin

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Football Genius Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:36 pm

Its great isn't it Laughing

Laughing

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Axeslammer Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:38 pm

Football Genius wrote:Its great isn't it

Get's my vote for post of the day

So simple, so funny, so lethal....so true Very Happy

Very Happy

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by The-Frank-Tavern Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:40 pm

jose may well be starting to lose the players, hi style is v autocratic which is fine whilst it works but will crumble v quickly when it doesn't and ther´'ll be no coming back if it cracks much more

ps i'm with axe

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Machiavel Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:43 pm

Concerning the atmosphere , maybe its the TV but i heard the Norwegian fans being louder than the home fans , this is a problem that has been raised before.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Sgoater1 Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:45 pm

Also if a club that is supposed to be one of the biggest in the world gets a 20,000 drop on attendences for a champs league game when ticket prices are reduced then its hints that something isnt right.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Machiavel Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:47 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:
Still overall i do think Chelsea need a change Jose dosnt seem happy (especially not with Shev), his relationship with Ambrahmovic is obviously strained.

Maybe Jose lost some influence with the arrival of Avram Grant ?

This is from the Independent in June

"Mourinho will not walk out, as he threatened to do when Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich first proposed employing Grant back in January as a means of improving the club's fortunes and getting more out of misfiring striker Andrei Shevchenko in particular. However, it will be fascinating to see how Mourinho copes with the new structure."

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Parks lives Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:50 pm

Silly to write them off yet.

They are still capable of going on a long run.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Lard Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:51 pm

I don't blame Chelsea fans. They are charged outrageous prices. Then they are treated to incredibly dull football. It's hard to be uplifting if you are in the stadium. And i can see why half didn't bother turning up for a game against an average team where they probably know none of there players.

ps Jose wont quit, he wants to be sacked he wants his big payday

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Machiavel Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:52 pm

Parks lives wrote:Silly to write them off yet.

They are still capable of going on a long run.

I have a feeling that they will be a lot better on Sunday than they have been in their past 3 games. They were lucky to get a draw at Anfield , playing against one of the other title challengers may not get the best .. but it should.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by lrdsucksgoats Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:03 pm

Raifael wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Silly to write them off yet.

They are still capable of going on a long run.

I have a feeling that they will be a lot better on Sunday than they have been in their past 3 games. They were lucky to get a draw at Anfield , playing against one of the other title challengers may not get the best .. but it should.

I dunno, Man U got two fortuitous results against Liverpool last season and were otherwise not great against the best teams in the league. And they still won it.

Chelsea have looked a bit toothless without Drogba and Lampard. But every good team has wobbles. Man U had more than one last season (particularly in the second half of the season when Saha was out) and still came out smelling of roses. We'll see what happens.

Lrd's right though, Jose will be sacked. He won't quit.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Parks lives Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:05 pm

Ayman Zawahiri wrote:

Raifael wrote:

Parks lives wrote:Silly to write them off yet.

They are still capable of going on a long run.

I have a feeling that they will be a lot better on Sunday than they have been in their past 3 games. They were lucky to get a draw at Anfield , playing against one of the other title challengers may not get the best .. but it should.

I dunno, Man U got two fortuitous results against Liverpool last season and were otherwise not great against the best teams in the league. And they still won it.

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You're not including the game at Old Trafford are you? scratch

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Tweesus Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:07 pm

Parks lives wrote:Silly to write them off yet.

They are still capable of going on a long run.

My post wasn't really about 'writing them off' it was more to do with the fact that support seems to be waning and also, the quality of football is not improving, despite Mourinho claiming that they would try to play a more attractive style this season.

I also posted an article yesterday in the Chelsea thread which basically says that Abramovich is becming more amd more disillusioned by the lack of flair in the Chelsea style of play

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by lrdsucksgoats Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:08 pm

Parks lives wrote:
1.

You're not including the game at Old Trafford are you?

Sorry, I got muddled. You also got a reasonably lucky win against Spurs, but you're right, you outplayed Liverpool in the OT game...

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by robert Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:52 pm

What I don't understand is that, Chelsea set out a system and the right players for that system that is conducive to playing entertaining football but yet it still doesn't happen.

I am at a loss to understand why that is.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by DeLux Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:00 pm

If only the Handsome Prince of Saxony was fit.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Machiavel Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:13 pm

Goalkeeper Petr Cech insists there is no crisis in the dressing room after Chelsea began their Champions League campaign with a disappointing 1-1 draw against Rosenborg.

'The spirit is still there, though now is the time for it to come through. It is easy to play when you win every game each week and score five goals.

'It is easy to be part of the team when that is happening. But it is more difficult when things are going against you and you don't have great results.

'That's what is happening now. It is up to us to pick ourselves up. But we still have a belief, a confidence. In our last two games, we were superior to our opponents and created a lot of chances.

'We need that killer instinct. You can't just keep wasting chances. At the moment, we're creating lots. The day will come when we create only one or two and we have to put them away.

'We were unlucky not to score the goals which would have given us victories. Against Rosenborg we had 29 shots, scored once, hit the woodwork, saw them clear the ball off the line.

'We could have played three days and we'd never have scored more than one goal.'

'We need to stop conceding from free-kicks. By our high standards, we've conceded too many goals this season from set plays and that wasn't the case last time around.

'We really need to think about that and try to change something, but we are still positive and confident going up to United.'

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:17 pm

Terry should play CF.

That'll solve everything. Smile

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by COTR Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:27 pm

TeamSpirit wrote:Terry should play CF.

That'll solve everything.

only if you play flump as well Wink

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by StevieG Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:48 pm

mourinhos interviews are quality but i have to say i do find these failings quite funny. once they get lampard and drogba back fit i feel their lift them up again especially when drogba starts his scoring onslaught

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by S4P Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:53 pm

Tweedle wrote:Will Mourinho be manager come next season

I hope so.

Tweedle wrote:Will Chelsea ever play attractive football again

Just a few weeks ago you said "It's good that Chelsea are now playing attractive football. Shame that Liverpool still aren't."

Tweedle wrote:Will Lampard suspiciously contract food poisoning and die a lonely painful death

Bit uncalled for.

Tweedle wrote:These questions all need answering

I have answered them for you.

Tweedle wrote:More importantly, what is generally going on with Chelsea? They have had the best of starts to the season yet again, despite having made some promising signings in the summer. The latest of which has been an abismal 1-1 draw at home to Rosenborg.

Good question. The team has taken a leaf out of Arsenal's book. All build up, loads of shots, too many wide (30+ shots last night, only 5-6 on target not including the 2 which hit the post). It was an abysmal result but it's the first game, we have 5 games to make up for it.

Tweedle wrote:They also still seem to struggle to fill a stadium that is 35,000 below the capacity of Man Utd and 20,000 below the capacity of Arsenal. Many of the 'true' fans are complaining about the influx of gloryhunters and the lack of atmosphere within the walls of Stamford Bridge is noticeable.

It's 42,000 and I told you last night the entire Shed End upper (which holds 8-10,000) was reserved for Rosenborg fans (you know, the stand which was entirely empty and was filled with security guards sitting between that stand and the East/West Stands which were occupied by Chelsea fans). If anything, it's ridiculous that we gave Rosenborg so many tickets, this isn't the FA Cup you know Kenyon.

Tweedle wrote:Abrahmovich last night was LAUGHING when Rosenborg scored

I laughed in disbelief (mainly at the diabolical decision to give the free kick).

Tweedle wrote:Something has to change. Firstly, I think Mourinho must go. He's become bigger than the club

Hasn't Wenger at Arsenal too?

Tweedle wrote:and this is a club that has ambitions of being BIG. They need to bring in someone that will entertain the fans.

Who do you suggest?

Tweedle wrote:No one wants to watch a bunch of supposedly world class player lump the ball around for 90 minutes only to scrape a 1-0 win in the last few minutes. The fans surely want to be entertained, that is, at the end of the day what makes football a spectacle and also its what attracts people to the gates.

Just a couple of weeks ago you said you were impressed by the fact we were now playing better football.

Tweedle wrote:The cost of a ticket there is also extortionate which is pricing out the average fan.

Strange coming from an Arsenal fan (bearing in mind that Arsenal's tickets are the most expensive in the Premiership).

Tweedle wrote:Chelsea would do better to charge more for the boxes and charge less for the average seat. Arsenal could also take a leaf out of this book of thoughts.

Last night's prices varied from £18-41, CC and FA Cup are £20 max. It's only the 'big' Champions League games and Premiership games which are between £50-60 (I read somewhere that the most expensive tickets at the Emirates go for £95 because 1 fan was complaining like hell).

Ale

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Parks lives Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:56 pm

Tweedle wrote:No one wants to watch a bunch of supposedly world class player lump the ball around for 90 minutes only to scrape a 1-0 win in the last few minutes. The fans surely want to be entertained, that is, at the end of the day what makes football a spectacle and also its what attracts people to the gates.

Just a couple of weeks ago you said you were impressed by the fact we were now playing better football.

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That's Tweedle in a nutshell. Smiley

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Tweesus Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:03 pm

Parks lives wrote:

Tweedle wrote:No one wants to watch a bunch of supposedly world class player lump the ball around for 90 minutes only to scrape a 1-0 win in the last few minutes. The fans surely want to be entertained, that is, at the end of the day what makes football a spectacle and also its what attracts people to the gates.

Just a couple of weeks ago you said you were impressed by the fact we were now playing better football.

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That's Tweedle in a nutshell.

I never said you were playing better football. If anything you've been playing worse football this season parky.

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Parks lives Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:04 pm

Is that comedy?

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by lrdsucksgoats Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:06 pm

Tweedle wrote:

Parks lives wrote:

Tweedle wrote:No one wants to watch a bunch of supposedly world class player lump the ball around for 90 minutes only to scrape a 1-0 win in the last few minutes. The fans surely want to be entertained, that is, at the end of the day what makes football a spectacle and also its what attracts people to the gates.

Just a couple of weeks ago you said you were impressed by the fact we were now playing better football.

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That's Tweedle in a nutshell.

I never said you were playing better football. If anything you've been playing worse football this season parky.

Oh dear Tweeds. You really are having one of those days aren't you?

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Re: The failings of Chelsea

by Tweesus Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:12 pm

@ swarpy

Good question. The team has taken a leaf out of Arsenal's book. All build up, loads of shots, too many wide (30+ shots last night, only 5-6 on target not including the 2 which hit the post). It was an abysmal result but it's the first game, we have 5 games to make up for it.

You started the season quite well and were playing some good attacking football but it seems to have regressed over the last 5 games. Last night you played some good football in places. this post isn't just about last noghts game though; its about the entire Mourinho legacy

S4P wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Something has to change. Firstly, I think Mourinho must go. He's become bigger than the club

Hasn't Wenger at Arsenal too?

I wouldn't say Wenger has become bigger than the club, no. Mourinho seems to get more mentions in the paper than Chelsea does as a club nowadays

S4P wrote:

Tweedle wrote:and this is a club that has ambitions of being BIG. They need to bring in someone that will entertain the fans.

Who do you suggest?

You're wanting names? Someone like Prandelli might be handy. I'm not sure, I'm guessing Roman is darwing up a shortlist though

Just a couple of weeks ago you said you were impressed by the fact we were now playing better football.

I thought it was promising that you were playing with two wingers, and in truth you have played a bit more exciting football this season. But after the first two games where you looked vulnerable in defence, Mourinho has tightened things up and there doesn't seem to be as much flamboyancy and interchanging of positions as there was in the first two games

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