Observer Insider Scoop on Chelski Fiasco

Now I do actually regret using jamie redknapp as one of the main sources behind my reasoning but he was very convincing yesterday when saying it was bullshit

firstly because he so clearly has links to all the inside knowledge at stamford bridge and secondly because of the highly unlikely nature of the comments given terry's closeness to jose


anyhow... jose was always a dead man walking for reasons far beyond anything john terry may or may not have done

It was bad enough that chelsea bored their owner to death but what he could not deal with was the chelsea brand becoming one of the most hated in football, mostly down to mourinho insulting everyone who came into his path

Nope had no idea, should have known though. They seem to own everything these jews.

Chelsea were in danger of letting their paranoia take over last night as anti-Tottenham jibes by Blues fans were being seen as a dig at Roman Abramovich.

The Stamford Bridge hierarchy are considering potential steps against supporters who signalled their support for Jose Mourinho throughout the defeat at Old Trafford.

The fans also ignored new boss Avram Grant by singing "Stevie Clarke's Blue and White Army" but one chant, of "We hate Tottenham", was being seen in the upper echelons of Stamford Bridge as a potentially anti-Semitic statement aimed directly at Abramovich, who has never hidden his Jewish faith.

Serious legal action is also being contemplated against websites which have carried anti-Jewish comments in the wake of Mourinho's exit and the appointment of Israeli Avram Grant.

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Abramovich and boardroom colleagues Eugene Tenenbaum and Eugene Shvidler are Jewish and have demanded anti-Semitic chants aimed at Tottenham and their large Jewish following be punished by exclusion from Stamford Bridge. Yet by taking such exception to a routine club jibe, Chelsea appeared to risk making relations with the club's stunned and disbelieving fans even worse.

L r d wrote:What do people make of the story in the mirror today?

I didn't realise abram was jewish also. They say the Chelsea fans boooed Grant, cheered for Clarke and Mourinho, then made anti Tottenham songs. They claim the anti Tottenham songs were anti jewish songs aimed at abram and grant. Now abram wants to ban these supporters from chelsea

I'm not sorry for Grant at all. He's made his own bed. This backstabber has a LONG HISTORY of being a RAT. Look up how he's backstabbed managers in Israel. I'm surprised Terry was in it as well backstabbing his manager Mourinho. Jose after all, MADE Terry. Backstabbing Terry certainly owes Mourinho the good cheques he's getting from Abramovich. It's just ROTTEN STUFF through and through.

L r d wrote:
Serious legal action is also being contemplated against websites which have carried anti-Jewish comments in the wake of Mourinho's exit and the appointment of Israeli Avram Grant.

timebomb this could well go horribly wrong with the worst case scenario for the blues fans in roman upping sticks and doing the offski, with the current appetite for english football clubs, i doubt he'd have a prob finding a buyer, just one who wants to make money and not use it as a rich mans plaything

Taking action against websites is ridiculous. Usmanov has launched action against all independent Arsenal websites, and humanitarian websites that raise issues to do with his questionable past. The problem is that plenty of other, entirely unrelated, websites have been shut down as well, including Boris Johnson's.

As far-fetched as that request might be, Abramovich's actions in the aftermath of the Rosenborg draw were equally bizarre. In front of the entire Chelsea team, but while Mourinho was occupied with press conference duties, the Russian billionaire decided to hand out an impromptu tactics lesson to Michael Essien.

Employing striker Andriy Shevchenko as translator, he instructed midfielder Essien, player of the year last season, to hit passes wide rather than through central areas where the Norwegians had compressed play. Abramovich is expected to take an increasingly hands-on role in the team following the appointment of Grant to replace Mourinho and, according to several sources, will effectively select the side. In a press conference on Friday, Grant insisted he would not tolerate interference but declined to respond when asked who was the most important individual at Chelsea. 'Look, the owner gives the financial support,' Grant said. 'I'm not going to make remarks.'

Chelsea fans are fucked beyond believe if this is true

Didn't Abramovich and the rest of his crew make a video called "Blue Revolution" or something like that?

They've kickstarted a revolution alright.

Piet de Visser is a nasty piece of work btw, typical NSB-er

Axeslammer wrote:Piet de Visser is a nasty piece of work btw, typical NSB-er

Talking about NSB,

this was the movie/character I had to think of when Moruinho got sacked by Roman (if you sell your soul to the devil, it's gonna be payback time)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082736/

Truly great movie.

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Piet de Visser is a nasty piece of work btw, typical NSB-er

Talking about NSB,

this was the movie/character I had to think of when Moruinho got sacked by Roman (if you sell your soul to the devil, it's gonna be payback time)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082736/

Truly great movie.

Somehow I think the "Devil" was outed for everyone to see, and Mourinho has come out bigger than ever...for going up against the "Devil".

Imagine that Abramovich is forced to sell Chelsea (dwindling attendances and stuff), and the new head at Chelsea brings Mourinho back. WOW! a first, as far as I know.

Puro wrote:

jonathan de guzman wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Piet de Visser is a nasty piece of work btw, typical NSB-er

Talking about NSB,

this was the movie/character I had to think of when Moruinho got sacked by Roman (if you sell your soul to the devil, it's gonna be payback time)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082736/

Truly great movie.

Somehow I think the "Devil" was outed for everyone to see, and Mourinho has come out bigger than ever...for going up against the "Devil".

Imagine that Abramovich is forced to sell Chelsea (dwindling attendances and stuff), and the new head at Chelsea brings Mourinho back. WOW! a first, as far as I know.

Trust me Mourinho will be Inter's next manager. If you want to make some money put it on that Lots already have

L r d wrote:
Trust me Mourinho will be Inter's next manager. If you want to make some money put it on that Lots already have

Yes, Inter could hire him. Have you read the news about Mourinho saying yes to England? Holy Molly! I wonder what Terry thinks of the latest.

More on this story from the author Duncan Castles in this week's Guardian podcast. As assumed, he does have an insider source deep in Chavski camp. Some additional tidbits from the podcast (if you want to listen yourself, it's about the first 15 minutes).

(1) Chavs have been falling apart inside for the last year and it came to a head with the row between Terry (who in effect refused to play vs Rosenborg) and Maureen

(2) No prospect of getting it any better - pro Grant faction is in power for now, but intercine factional fighting will continue.

(3) Jamie Redknapp to join coaching staff this week

(4) Chavchenko - always isolated, never seen with any of his teammates during tour of US.

(5) Lumpard - closest to Maureen among the senior players. Focus on how he'd react to Terry's role in the whole affair.

...and oh, a new nickname - 'Hearts' Southern Division'

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/09/24/football_weekly_47.html

Let me make one thing clear:

Terry had an argument with Mourinho after the Rosenborg game. That is pretty much well known. However,

* He did not go to the board and ask for Mourinho's dismissal nor did he say that Mourinho had lost the team's trust.

* He has never asked for a coaching job at the club (as far as the public are aware, and I'm sure it would have been made public had it been true).

* Mourinho was sacked after a blazing row with Shevchenko following Chelsea-Rosenborg. They had a row in the managers office where Mourinho accused Sheva of underperforming and Sheva basically said that the team were not passing to him.

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Overall, the Terry saga is media bullshit. When these guys get their own arses out of their heads hopefully everyone will see that if anybody is to blame, it is a) Abramovich, b) Kenyon, c) Grant and d) Shevchenko (possibly Ballack although I think he was just getting his head down and trying to play).

S4P wrote:Let me make one thing clear:

Terry had an argument with Mourinho after the Rosenborg game. That is pretty much well known. However,

* He did not go to the board and ask for Mourinho's dismissal nor did he say that Mourinho had lost the team's trust.

* He has never asked for a coaching job at the club (as far as the public are aware, and I'm sure it would have been made public had it been true).

* Mourinho was sacked after a blazing row with Shevchenko following Chelsea-Rosenborg. They had a row in the managers office where Mourinho accused Sheva of underperforming and Sheva basically said that the team were not passing to him.

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Overall, the Terry saga is media bullshit. When these guys get their own arses out of their heads hopefully everyone will see that if anybody is to blame, it is a) Abramovich, b) Kenyon, c) Grant and d) Shevchenko (possibly Ballack although I think he was just getting his head down and trying to play).

To be fair, I don't think the article claims that Terry went to the Board to demand Mourinho's dismissal. Only that the whole incident was relayed back to Abramovich & co who used the incident as the trigger to set into motion the actions leading to Mourinho's dismissal . The assumption here is that Abramovich had decided to get rid of Mourinho after Aston Villa (Grant had queried UEFA about his eligibility to manage two weeks prior to Mourinho's dismissal), and was waiting for an excuse. Any sign that Mourinho may be losing support in the dressing room would have sufficed.

As to the true extent of Terry's culpability - is, obviously, anyone's guess but it's possible that as the team captain, he had an inkling of what was happening or, equally possibly, he'd been used by the anti-Mourinho faction.

As for his contract demands...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/04_april/30/terry.shtml

''In the interview with Gabby Logan, Terry exclusively reveals that he would like an option to manage Chelsea written into his new contract, which he would also like to be a nine year deal''

TheCrazy58 wrote:(4) Chavchenko - always isolated, never seen with any of his teammates during tour of US.

Sounds like a man of taste - why would you want to hang around with a self-pitying, petulant tosser like Lampard or a thug like Terry ?

Would you want to be mates with Ashley Cole ?

Would you be seen dead with Paulo Ferreira ?

If Mourinho really singled out Sheva for criticism following the Rosenborg game then it shows just how biased he is.

He was the wrong player at the wrong time for Chelsea but any manager who desperately wants one of his own players to fail to prove a point was going to come a cropper sooner or later.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:(4) Chavchenko - always isolated, never seen with any of his teammates during tour of US.

Sounds like a man of taste - why would you want to hang around with a self-pitying, petulant tosser like Lampard or a thug like Terry ?

Would you want to be mates with Ashley Cole ?

Would you be seen dead with Paulo Ferreira ?

If Mourinho really singled out Sheva for criticism following the Rosenborg game then it shows just how biased he is.

He was the wrong player at the wrong time for Chelsea but any manager who desperately wants one of his own players to fail to prove a point was going to come a cropper sooner or later.

Quite possibly the fact that Sheva still refuses to speak English hasn't done him any favours?

S4P wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

TheCrazy58 wrote:(4) Chavchenko - always isolated, never seen with any of his teammates during tour of US.

Sounds like a man of taste - why would you want to hang around with a self-pitying, petulant tosser like Lampard or a thug like Terry ?

Would you want to be mates with Ashley Cole ?

Would you be seen dead with Paulo Ferreira ?

If Mourinho really singled out Sheva for criticism following the Rosenborg game then it shows just how biased he is.

He was the wrong player at the wrong time for Chelsea but any manager who desperately wants one of his own players to fail to prove a point was going to come a cropper sooner or later.

Quite possibly the fact that Sheva still refuses to speak English hasn't done him any favours?

...its never done John Terry any harm

I thought he went to Chelsea to learn English...

Remember the English student

Traitor-Terry is filth...!!!!


BTW - T'normal ones wife drinks URINE apparently!!! Eeeeeeuuuuugggghhhh!!!!!

So who are these two factions?

It seems as though its the french speaking faction + Lampard verses the rest?!

Dick Grayson wrote:Traitor-Terry is filth...!!!!


BTW - T'normal ones wife drinks URINE apparently!!! Eeeeeeuuuuugggghhhh!!!!!

When Terry buggers off to America to do "commercial" deals, I will call him a traitor.

Tweedle wrote:So who are these two factions?

It seems as though its the french speaking faction + Lampard verses the rest?!

It generally seems to me that it's the board + Sheva versus the players (and I include Ballack, Terry and Lampard in this).

Tweedle wrote:So who are these two factions?

It seems as though its the french speaking faction + Lampard verses the rest?!

It's factions within Chelsea overall, not the team as such. The agents (zahavi & co), Arnesen, Grant, etc....Agents didn't like Mourinho because he won't buy their players.

S4P wrote:

Dick Grayson wrote:Traitor-Terry is filth...!!!!


BTW - T'normal ones wife drinks URINE apparently!!! Eeeeeeuuuuugggghhhh!!!!!

When Terry buggers off to America to do "commercial" deals, I will call him a traitor.

He is too ugly to do commercials....unless there is a requirement to advertise 'back-stabbing' !!!

Puro wrote:

Sir Harry Flashman wrote:

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:

Puro wrote:

Nightwing wrote:

Eduardo-sexin-the-arsenal wrote:Have to say, Terry sounds like an utter knob if those articles are true.

What do ye mean 'sounds like' - he IS an utter knob - he is from Romford FFS....says it all!!!
A disgragce to t'Cpatians armband for ENGLAND!!!

The only reason he was named captain of England was because of his commitment, never due to football skills. Now EVERYONE knows the kind of guy he is. Such a wonderful fellow.

You are a hypocritical c**t. When the English papers say something you disagree with, you are outraged, calling in a million and one conspiracy theories and claiming to be in the know about the real truth.

But then a story appears in those same papers, based on pure rumour, and its now your going straight along with it a though it the gods honest truth.

Explain to us how Mourinho's departure might have helped Terry, the same player he called an untouchable and made club captain? Why the f@ck would Terry want him gone? Captains and managers have arguments all the time, doesnt mean he wanted him out. Only THICK SHITES would claim that the man who benefitted more than onyone from Mourinho's reign at Chelea would actually want him out over a spat.

This Terry story sells papers, because its controversial. When infact everyone knows, and has known, for ages that Shevchenko was the main man who was Abramovich's bum buddy and would benefit most from his "dissapearance" . However, since this story is nothing new, it aint world breaking. Dont you know how the media here works? You sure as hell claimed to on a regular basis in the past

Highly unlikely t'media woud turn on t'darling of England - t'captain - and leave Scehvchenko who would be an easier target t'blame!
The reality is the story was given DIRECTLY by Mourinho....he even showed to some of his 'close reported pals' the text message he sent and he gave em the story!!!
Traitor-Terry did back stab him - but miscalculated the impact of his treachery!
That Sir is the truth!

Sir Harry, good luck discussing football with Thick Shite.

Since when has Sir Harry/Nightwing/Dick Grayson ever purported to be anything but a pro Red comedian? The fact that the media HAVE reported on "the darling" Terry proves his opinion is t'confounded. And yet its now gone quiet, as the papers today are now reporting Shevchenko and Mourinho having a furious row after the Rosenborg game.

You choosing not to report on that Puro, or did you miss it? Ask your pea sized brain the obvious question- who had the bigger motive to be rid of Mourinho, Sheva or Terry? Its not difficult, not even for 'tard like you. And yet Im the thick shite?

S4P wrote:Let me make one thing clear:

Terry had an argument with Mourinho after the Rosenborg game. That is pretty much well known. However,

* He did not go to the board and ask for Mourinho's dismissal nor did he say that Mourinho had lost the team's trust.

* He has never asked for a coaching job at the club (as far as the public are aware, and I'm sure it would have been made public had it been true).

* Mourinho was sacked after a blazing row with Shevchenko following Chelsea-Rosenborg. They had a row in the managers office where Mourinho accused Sheva of underperforming and Sheva basically said that the team were not passing to him.

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Overall, the Terry saga is media bullshit. When these guys get their own arses out of their heads hopefully everyone will see that if anybody is to blame, it is a) Abramovich, b) Kenyon, c) Grant and d) Shevchenko (possibly Ballack although I think he was just getting his head down and trying to play).

Shhh, dont say that. Otherwise that Oracle of all footballing knowledge Puro will call you a THICK SHITE too for not joining in this new conspiracy

The story that shevchenko was acting as abramovich's mole is an old one. It doesnt sell papers. Blaming a petty argument between the captain and the manager, the one player least likely to profit from Mourinho's departure, will sell more papers.

The argument may well have given Abramovich the reason he needed to push mourinho out, but it was already set to happen. Terry is being set up as the man by the media to blow this thing sky high. The Shevchenko influence is no longer more than a fissle. Yet anyone who saw Mournho's disgust on the bench as Sheva put in another mediocre performance against Rosenborg knows where the problems lay.

Just like them Americans already set up to go to Iraq way before Saddam was accused of WMD.But dont tell Puro this though. Cos we're THICK SHITES after all.

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:

S4P wrote:Let me make one thing clear:

Terry had an argument with Mourinho after the Rosenborg game. That is pretty much well known. However,

* He did not go to the board and ask for Mourinho's dismissal nor did he say that Mourinho had lost the team's trust.

* He has never asked for a coaching job at the club (as far as the public are aware, and I'm sure it would have been made public had it been true).

* Mourinho was sacked after a blazing row with Shevchenko following Chelsea-Rosenborg. They had a row in the managers office where Mourinho accused Sheva of underperforming and Sheva basically said that the team were not passing to him.

----------------------------------------------------------

Overall, the Terry saga is media bullshit. When these guys get their own arses out of their heads hopefully everyone will see that if anybody is to blame, it is a) Abramovich, b) Kenyon, c) Grant and d) Shevchenko (possibly Ballack although I think he was just getting his head down and trying to play).

Shhh, dont say that. Otherwise that Oracle of all footballing knowledge Puro will call you a THICK SHITE too for not joining in this new conspiracy

The story that shevchenko was acting as abramovich's mole is an old one. It doesnt sell papers. Blaming a petty argument between the captain and the manager, the one player least likely to profit from Mourinho's departure, will sell more papers.

The argument may well have given Abramovich the reason he needed to push mourinho out, but it was already set to happen. Terry is being set up as the man by the media to blow this thing sky high. The Shevchenko influence is no longer more than a fissle. Yet anyone who saw Mournho's disgust on the bench as Sheva put in another mediocre performance against Rosenborg knows where the problems lay.

Just like them Americans already set up to go to Iraq way before Saddam was accused of WMD.But dont tell Puro this though. Cos we're THICK SHITES after all.

Spot on

There's no doubt that Terry and Jose had an 'argument' after the game, but it appears that was simply about the game. I think when all this has calmed down most people will realise that there's no way Terry would have gone to the fucking board demanding for Mourinho to be sacked, especially when Terry knows as well as anyone that the board wanted Jose out and how badly this would affect Chelsea. Terry isn't just a Chelsea player, he's a Chelsea fan and there is no way he'd have wanted Mourinho out.

After the "argument" with Terry, Sheva and Jose had a blazing row in 1 of the offices. Obviously nobody knows what was said for definite, but I think that Sheva said that nobody in the team would pass the ball to him, and I'd imagine Jose's response would have been something like "You actually have to run if you want the ball Andriy." It also seems Mourinho accused Sheva of conspiring against him (it's now common knowledge round here that Sheva and Roman had a 2-3 hour chat after the Rosenborg game where Sheva said he wasn't happy with the way things were being done, though I notice the press aren't reporting that).

But John Terry isn't a Chelsea fan, he's a Man U fan...