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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:04 pm

    SEEDINGS

    Pot one: Villarreal (Spa) UEFA co-efficent 78.374, Bayern Munich (Ger) 73.640, AZ Alkmaar (Hol) 63.995, Panathinaikos (Gre) 55.415, Basle (Swi) 54.869, Bordeaux (Fra) 49.706, Bayer Leverkusen (Ger) 45.640, Anderlecht (Bel) 41.594.

    Pot two: Tottenham (Eng) 40.618, Lokomotiv Moscow (Rus) 38.920, Zenit St Petersburg (Rus) 38.920, Sparta Prague (Cze) 37.851, AEK Athens (Gre) 36.415, Hamburg (Ger) 34.640, Bolton (Eng) 32.618, Austria Vienna (Aut) 30.104.

    Pot three: Spartak Moscow (Rus) 27.920, Braga (Por) 27.107, Galatasaray (Tur) 26.791, Getafe (Spa) 25.374, Atletico Madrid (Spa) 25.374, Everton (Eng) 24.618, Fiorentina (Ita) 21.808, Stade Rennais (Fra) 20.706.

    Pot four: Hapoel Tel Aviv (Isr) 19.338, Red Star Belgrade (Ser) 19.256, Copenhagen (Den) 19.129, Toulouse (Fra) 17.706, Dinamo Zagreb (Cro) 17.533, Panionios (Gre) 16.415, Nuremberg (Ger) 14.640, Mlada Boleslav (Cze) 13.851.

    Pot five: Aris Thessaloniki (Gre) 13.415, Aberdeen (Sco) 11.064, FC Zurich (Swi) 9.869, Larissa (Gre) 8.415, Aalborg (Den) 7.129, Brann (Nor) 6.509, Elfsborg (Swe) 4.478, Helsingborgs (Swe) 3.478.


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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:42 pm

    Bayern Munich
    Tottenham
    Fiorentina
    Toulouse
    Aberdeen

    I'd love it.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:50 pm

    Athletico, Fiorentina and Everton in pot 3.... this is gonna be interesting!!
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:51 pm

    I shall be cheering on Galatasaray to win this Ale
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:53 pm

    don't forget bluey third goes through though
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:08 pm

    Deano Ashton wrote:Bayern Munich
    Tottenham
    Fiorentina
    Toulouse
    Aberdeen

    I'd love it.

    You wanna get rid of Tottenham right away?

    Give'em Bayern, Atlético, Red Star, and Aberdeen. They may still survive as third place team. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:10 pm

    Make that Toulouse instead of Red Star, and Tottenham's got a nightmare scenario. You'll loving that draw IF it happens. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:25 pm

    I hope Spurs get Fiorentina. Aside from that, I'm not too fussed who gets who
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:27 pm

    Tweedle wrote:I hope Spurs get Fiorentina. Aside from that, I'm not too fussed who gets who

    Serie A teams don't play UEFA Cup. Let's see how Fiorentina approach it this time.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:47 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Deano Ashton wrote:Bayern Munich
    Tottenham
    Fiorentina
    Toulouse
    Aberdeen

    I'd love it.

    You wanna get rid of Tottenham right away?

    Give'em Bayern, Atlético, Red Star, and Aberdeen. They may still survive as third place team. Biggrin <Ale>

    lol!

    The anti-EPL hype strikes!

    Spurs will walk their group Ale
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:07 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    The anti-EPL hype strikes!

    Spurs will walk their group Ale

    Some of you English guys are funny. Hammer wants Tottenham out, not me. I was just suggesting what draw would be the worst for Spurs. I LOVE the EPL, but I'm not STUPID about it falling for all the hype the media dishes out concerning the league. Hammer WANTS Spurs KO! Why don't you label him "anti-English"! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:10 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    The anti-EPL hype strikes!

    Spurs will walk their group Ale

    Some of you English guys are funny. Hammer wants Tottenham out, not me. I was just suggesting what draw would be the worst for Spurs. I LOVE the EPL, but I'm not STUPID about it falling for all the hype the media dishes out concerning the league. Hammer WANTS Spurs KO! Why don't you label him "anti-English"! Biggrin <Ale>

    He was merely identifying the toughest group for them. He didn't say that they wouldn't qualify from it. You on the other hand were sure they'd struggle maybe only just coming third. There's a difference...
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:11 pm

    I would bet on Tottenham winning the group Laughing.
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:12 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    He was merely identifying the toughest group for them. He didn't say that they wouldn't qualify from it. You on the other hand were sure they'd struggle maybe only just coming third. There's a difference...

    You are really naive to not know Hammer wants Spurs KO. Go ahead call him "anti-English". We know the drill. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:13 pm

    Deano Ashton wrote:I would bet on Tottenham winning the group Laughing.

    Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:16 pm

    Puro wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    He was merely identifying the toughest group for them. He didn't say that they wouldn't qualify from it. You on the other hand were sure they'd struggle maybe only just coming third. There's a difference...

    You are really naive to not know Hammer wants Spurs KO. Go ahead call him "anti-English". We know the drill. Biggrin <Ale>

    That would be a bit silly though...I can't be against England when I'm from England lol!

    I would want Tottenham out through club rivalry obviously. Even that depends though...if the team they are against are mouthy c**ts and slag off the Premiership I'd want Tottenham.
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    Post by Puro Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:18 pm

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    That would be a bit silly though...I can't be against England when I'm from England lol!

    I would want Tottenham out through club rivalry obviously. Even that depends though...if the team they are against are mouthy c**ts and slag off the Premiership I'd want Tottenham.

    England is England, and Spurs are Spurs. You'd be creaming your pants if Spurs are KO right away. lol!

    It won't happen though. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by bluenine Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:51 pm

    I don't think the suggestion that Fiorentina are better than Spurs is "slagging off the english" in any way... its a reasonable arguement.

    And Bayern ARE better than Spurs, reasonable fans would acknowledge that.

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    Puro wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    He was merely identifying the toughest group for them. He didn't say that they wouldn't qualify from it. You on the other hand were sure they'd struggle maybe only just coming third. There's a difference...

    You are really naive to not know Hammer wants Spurs KO. Go ahead call him "anti-English". We know the drill. Biggrin <Ale>

    That would be a bit silly though...I can't be against England when I'm from England lol!

    I would want Tottenham out through club rivalry obviously. Even that depends though...if the team they are against are mouthy c**ts and slag off the Premiership I'd want Tottenham.
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:54 pm

    bluenine wrote:I don't think the suggestion that Fiorentina are better than Spurs is "slagging off the english" in any way... its a reasonable arguement.

    And Bayern ARE better than Spurs, reasonable fans would acknowledge that.

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    Puro wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    He was merely identifying the toughest group for them. He didn't say that they wouldn't qualify from it. You on the other hand were sure they'd struggle maybe only just coming third. There's a difference...

    You are really naive to not know Hammer wants Spurs KO. Go ahead call him "anti-English". We know the drill. Biggrin <Ale>

    That would be a bit silly though...I can't be against England when I'm from England lol!

    I would want Tottenham out through club rivalry obviously. Even that depends though...if the team they are against are mouthy c**ts and slag off the Premiership I'd want Tottenham.

    What suggestion are you on about? What I said was...if Tottenham came up against Fiorentina for example...and say Adrian Mutu and Prandelli for example started slagging off the Premiership...I'd want Tottenham to win.

    I think Tottenham are equal to Fiorentina maybe just slightly better...I think Fiorentina are good but are overhyped. I've seen comments that they are better than Arsenal Laughing!.
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    Post by Murray Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:26 pm

    Deano Ashton wrote:Bayern Munich
    Tottenham
    Fiorentina
    Toulouse
    Aberdeen

    I'd love it.

    Yikes That would be a nightmare for me.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:31 pm

    Who said these comments?? I only saw comments which rubbished the idea that Fiorentina can become as good as Arsenal in a few years.

    Personally, I think Fiorentina are better than Spurs. You EPL folks hype english teams way too much. What next, Derby >> Sampdoria??

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    What suggestion are you on about? What I said was...if Tottenham came up against Fiorentina for example...and say Adrian Mutu and Prandelli for example started slagging off the Premiership...I'd want Tottenham to win.

    I think Tottenham are equal to Fiorentina maybe just slightly better...I think Fiorentina are good but are overhyped. I've seen comments that they are better than Arsenal Laughing!.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:31 pm

    Spurs walks any group....! Especially with Master Jol still as coach! afro
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    Post by Lard Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:36 pm

    bluenine wrote:Who said these comments?? I only saw comments which rubbished the idea that Fiorentina can become as good as Arsenal in a few years.

    Personally, I think Fiorentina are better than Spurs. You EPL folks hype english teams way too much. What next, Derby >> Sampdoria??

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    What suggestion are you on about? What I said was...if Tottenham came up against Fiorentina for example...and say Adrian Mutu and Prandelli for example started slagging off the Premiership...I'd want Tottenham to win.

    I think Tottenham are equal to Fiorentina maybe just slightly better...I think Fiorentina are good but are overhyped. I've seen comments that they are better than Arsenal Laughing!.

    oh the irony

    I fully believe Tottenham have a better team and would beat Fiorentina.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:38 pm

    Now now bluey. I definately remember you saying in the Euro leagues thread that you thought that Arsenal and Fiorentina were at the same level.

    I'm not sure who is best of Spurs and Fiorentina. They're about the same IMO. Many people thought they had a good chance of coming third or fourth before the season started

    bluenine wrote:Who said these comments?? I only saw comments which rubbished the idea that Fiorentina can become as good as Arsenal in a few years.

    Personally, I think Fiorentina are better than Spurs. You EPL folks hype english teams way too much. What next, Derby >> Sampdoria??

    Deano Ashton wrote:
    What suggestion are you on about? What I said was...if Tottenham came up against Fiorentina for example...and say Adrian Mutu and Prandelli for example started slagging off the Premiership...I'd want Tottenham to win.

    I think Tottenham are equal to Fiorentina maybe just slightly better...I think Fiorentina are good but are overhyped. I've seen comments that they are better than Arsenal Laughing!.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:41 pm

    fiorentina couldn't even win from Groningen a midtable side in the Netherlands... They were lucky on penalties... Why would it not possible for Spurs to win ?

    I think Spurs will beat Fiorentina!
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    Post by Lard Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:52 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:fiorentina couldn't even win from Groningen a midtable side in the Netherlands... They were lucky on penalties... Why would it not possible for Spurs to win ?

    I think Spurs will beat Fiorentina!

    IGNORANCE
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:53 pm

    Murray wrote:
    Deano Ashton wrote:Bayern Munich
    Tottenham
    Fiorentina
    Toulouse
    Aberdeen

    I'd love it.

    Yikes That would be a nightmare for me.

    Yeah sorry about that lol!

    @Bluey...why are Fiorentina better than Spurs. A fully fit both teams and Spurs have the better squad.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:57 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:fiorentina couldn't even win from Groningen a midtable side in the Netherlands... They were lucky on penalties... Why would it not possible for Spurs to win ?

    I think Spurs will beat Fiorentina!

    IGNORANCE

    I know I am the ONLY defender of the English game on this board but Spurs will win 5-3; 3 own goals and 4 assists by Robinson! WG
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    Post by Deano Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:00 pm

    1-GK-Paul Robinson
    2-RB-Pascal Chimbonda
    16-LB-Gareth Bale
    26-CB-Ledley King
    5-CB-Younes Kaboul
    25-RW-Aaron Lennon
    6-CM-Didier Zokora
    8-CM-Jermaine Jenas
    15-LW-Steed Malbranque
    9-ST-Dimitar Berbatov
    10-ST-Robbie Keane.

    Subs:
    12-GK-Radek Cerny
    20-CB-Michael Dawson
    6-CM-Teemu Tainio
    18-ST-Jermain Defoe
    23-ST-Darren Bent.

    I think this is better than Fiorentina.
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    Post by fcb Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:09 pm

    Last year Spurs surprised me in the UEFA Cup, but on current form, I can't see them doing anything after the group stage. But of course that is only in Feb/March so they have time to turn things around. The tricky part right now will be managing the Thursday games while at the same time recovering their form in the league.

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