I'm sorry but how the hell does Pique make the right back spot? surely we can do better than that! How about Djoruo or Stephen Taylor? Hell, Diarra could even play there!
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Tweedle wrote:I'm sorry but how the hell does Pique make the right back spot? surely we can do better than that! How about Djoruo or Stephen Taylor? Hell, Diarra could even play there!
Because he is better than all of them
I couldnt think of any right backs, 2 of the players you mentioned are Centre backs and they dont have the football ability required to play right back.
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Gallas, Distin, Dunne, Rozehnal, Sagna, Neville, Campbell, King, Woodgate, Chimbonda, Neil, Evra, Samba, Lescott, Yobo, Laursen.Parks lives wrote:The-Frank-Tavern wrote:best defenders - Italy
Ferdinand, Vidic, Toure, Richards, Terry, Alex, Carvahilo, Carragher, Agger.
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Its an illustion that Italian defenders are better. Sure, they were 5 ot 10 years ago, but not now.
France have some good defenders as well.
France have some good defenders as well.
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Now the Italian strikers are much better.... I don't mind, really
Tweedle wrote:Its an illustion that Italian defenders are better. Sure, they were 5 ot 10 years ago, but not now.
France have some good defenders as well.
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What about your favorite league Tweedy, surely Serie A is better in something!!
Tweedle wrote:best managers - EPL
best goalkeepers - EPL
best defenders - EPL
best midfielders - La Liga
best strikers - La Liga
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I think the football is more pleasing on the eye - from a technical perspective. I'd also say there are more goals, although I'm not sure whether thats a result of more chances being created or just better finishing.
Serie A has its merits though. The weather there makes the football a little different to northern league football, even la liga.
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though - I think if defenders were divided into full backs and central defenders though, Serie A would have the best full backs
Serie A has its merits though. The weather there makes the football a little different to northern league football, even la liga.
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though - I think if defenders were divided into full backs and central defenders though, Serie A would have the best full backs
bluenine wrote:What about your favorite league Tweedy, surely Serie A is better in something!!Tweedle wrote:best managers - EPL
best goalkeepers - EPL
best defenders - EPL
best midfielders - La Liga
best strikers - La Liga
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Why am I not surpised...
Tweedle wrote:
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though
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Rez wrote:I am surprised no one thinks England have the best players under the age of 23.
I cant think of any other league that could field an U23 team of this calibre;
----------------------Kasper S---------------------
Pique---------Richards----------Agger----------Bale
--------------Mascherano-------Mikel---------------
-----------------------Fabregas---------------------
Ronaldo--------------------------------------Rooney
-----------------------Torres-----------------------
An premiership U23 XI IMO would beat any other countries U23 XI.
Also look at the players who couldnt make the XI; Tevez, Anderson, Nani, Lennon, Young, Babel, Clichy, N'Zogbia, Adebayor, Kalou, Taylor etc.
I did say it, but again, look at that list - almost every player there was bought from another club. I think most posters interpreted that question to mean which league has the best youngsters that have come from that league's own youth acadamies.
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Well, you've identified Spain as the best country for keepers They're dreadful!
bluenine wrote:Why am I not surpised...Tweedle wrote:
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though
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I obviously mean La Liga as a league, not spain as a country... And I think La Liga has some quality goalkeeping talent.
Cassillas, De Sanctis, Valdes, Veira, Palop, Hildebrand, Franco, etc loads of quality keepers.
And I think Serie A also has better keepers than EPL at the mo.
Cassillas, De Sanctis, Valdes, Veira, Palop, Hildebrand, Franco, etc loads of quality keepers.
And I think Serie A also has better keepers than EPL at the mo.
Tweedle wrote:Well, you've identified Spain as the best country for keepers They're dreadful!bluenine wrote:Why am I not surpised...Tweedle wrote:
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though
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Casillas is world class and Palop and De Sanctis are top class keepers. Really not sure after than though. Most of them aren't even regular internationals! Hildrebrand is about fourth choice for Germany, Franco is 2nd choice for the Argies, Viera is still learning as is Utsari.
You're hugely overrating the keeping quality bluey. I'd say its fourth after the Bundesliga, EPL and Serie A
You're hugely overrating the keeping quality bluey. I'd say its fourth after the Bundesliga, EPL and Serie A
bluenine wrote:I obviously mean La Liga as a league, not spain as a country... And I think La Liga has some quality goalkeeping talent.
Cassillas, De Sanctis, Valdes, Veira, Palop, Hildebrand, Franco, etc loads of quality keepers.Tweedle wrote:Well, you've identified Spain as the best country for keepers They're dreadful!bluenine wrote:Why am I not surpised...Tweedle wrote:
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though
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bluenine wrote:I obviously mean La Liga as a league, not spain as a country... And I think La Liga has some quality goalkeeping talent.
Cassillas, De Sanctis, Valdes, Veira, Palop, Hildebrand, Franco, etc loads of quality keepers.
And I think Serie A also has better keepers than EPL at the mo.Tweedle wrote:Well, you've identified Spain as the best country for keepers They're dreadful!bluenine wrote:Why am I not surpised...Tweedle wrote:
I'm really not sure that Serie A has better players in any of the positions named though
There is a reason why players who cant buy a goal in England, score 20 goals in their first season in la liga
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GKs in Spain are about as good as its been in years, but still a few bad uns which ruin it in this contest.
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kas wrote:Rez wrote:I am surprised no one thinks England have the best players under the age of 23.
I cant think of any other league that could field an U23 team of this calibre;
----------------------Kasper S---------------------
Pique---------Richards----------Agger----------Bale
--------------Mascherano-------Mikel---------------
-----------------------Fabregas---------------------
Ronaldo--------------------------------------Rooney
-----------------------Torres-----------------------
An premiership U23 XI IMO would beat any other countries U23 XI.
Also look at the players who couldnt make the XI; Tevez, Anderson, Nani, Lennon, Young, Babel, Clichy, N'Zogbia, Adebayor, Kalou, Taylor etc.
I did say it, but again, look at that list - almost every player there was bought from another club. I think most posters interpreted that question to mean which league has the best youngsters that have come from that league's own youth acadamies.
Well not every team has the luxury of being able to go to South America and get the most prodigious talents to join their academies
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Not every team has the guts to take a risk and invest in a kid who has talent but also a medical condition.
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Pique wasn't bought from South America, neither were Cesc,Arteta,Merida,Reina
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Portugal and Holland dont get any sort of credit on this board!! Look at how many CL titles they have together...and that with a combined population of 26 million or so
Compare it with France for example, yet everyone rates the French league!!
Would be a cool idea as well, to combine the Eredivisie and the Portuguese league! Mental stuff is what you get then
Compare it with France for example, yet everyone rates the French league!!
Would be a cool idea as well, to combine the Eredivisie and the Portuguese league! Mental stuff is what you get then
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Feygina wrote:
Would be a cool idea as well, to combine the Eredivisie and the Portuguese league! Mental stuff is what you get then
Wow, that would be *awesome*, we'd win the CL 2 out of 3 years
Portuguese defence, a combined Portuguese-Dutch midfield and Dutch strikers, WOW
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