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    £100M bid for Kaka???

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    Post by bluenine Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:58 am

    I know this is just a silly rumour, but if its true, does it make any sense to Milan or Chelsea??

    For Milan, yeah, I think they should sell at a price like this... from that money, they could get 4-5 great stars... it is a ridiculous amount for 1 player.

    For Chelsea, it will make them popular, but isn't it just a waste of too much cash??

    What do you guys think??

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    There are reports that Chelsea are lining up a sensational bumper bid for Milan’s Brazilian ace Kaka. The 25-year-old midfield wizard has heightened speculation over his future by admitting in recent weeks that he would like to play in Spain or England at some stage.

    While the ex-Sao Paulo man insists that he is happy at the San Siro at present, The Daily Express claims that new Chelsea boss Avram Grant is desperate to lure him. The Diavolo have rebuffed numerous approaches from Real Madrid for the Ballon d’Or award favourite, but The Daily Express claims a bid of £100m is a possibility.

    “Kaka is certainly a long-term target and if there is any chance of getting him then Grant will try and make it happen,” an inside source reportedly stated. “Avram likes Kaka very much and has told Abramovich that he is a good investment, even at £100m.

    “Of course all the wealthiest clubs in the world want Kaka, including Manchester United and Real Madrid, but only Chelsea can really afford him.” While there is no way to verify the veracity of The Daily Express’ claims, it is unlikely that Milan could refuse a bid of £100m even for a player of Kaka’s importance.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:01 pm

    wot does roman care, he can afford it, its the only way they'll ever become popular with the masses is to have players like this, mourinho was a winner, but abra wants winning with flair and considering the money he's spent and is willing to spend why shouldn't he. it wont happen as i can't see kaka going there, but you never know. IF he leaves Milan it'll be for Barça or RM
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    Post by Rez Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:03 pm

    I cant see anyone paying £100m for anyone, that's over twice the world record transfer fee.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:05 pm

    ------- Mikel ----- Essien
    J Cole ------ Kaka ------ Malouda
    ------------- Drogba

    Not that I think it'll happen though.
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    Post by Machiavel Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:09 pm

    Even if Chelsea bidded £100M for Kaka , i doubt he will go.
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:11 pm

    Doesn't make any sense to Milan, cause they don't need the money & the streets aren't littered with Kaka's. At least not the ones able to play stunning footy.

    Don't think it will make Chelsea more popular, they might sell loads of Kaka's shirts, but this is fluid popularity. people following the hype.

    Most importantly 433 is Ten Cate's middlename. Assuming a 100M Kaka has to play & he will not play winger, this would mean a very attacking line-up:

    ------------X-----------
    X--------X----X-------X
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    ----------Kaka----------
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    Post by The Vermonster Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:46 pm

    Heck Milan already did a mega fleece job of highest order on Chelsea by selling Sheva for nearly 31m pounds.

    Now Kaka for 100, maybe after couple of years when his best days are behind him, so that Berlusconi can laugh all the way to the bank.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:50 pm

    Milan would probably sell for £60m to be honest. I can't see Chelsea launching a huge £100m bid. Besides, he's not THAt good. If I were Chelsea I'd be far more interested in Messi
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    Post by Rez Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:56 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:Doesn't make any sense to Milan, cause they don't need the money & the streets aren't littered with Kaka's. At least not the ones able to play stunning footy.

    You would sell any player if someone offers you £100m. besides they could then buy Ronaldinho - who is better than Kaka - and Eto and still have enough money left to buy a new goalkeeper with that amount of money.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:04 pm

    Rez wrote:
    jonathan de guzman wrote:Doesn't make any sense to Milan, cause they don't need the money & the streets aren't littered with Kaka's. At least not the ones able to play stunning footy.



    You would sell any player if someone offers you £100m. besides they could then buy Ronaldinho - who is better than Kaka

    It was an arguing point about a year ago. No way is he better now.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:12 pm

    Parks lives wrote:------- Mikel ----- Essien
    J Cole ------ Kaka ------ Malouda
    ------------- Drogba

    Not that I think it'll happen though.


    Yeah but we have..


    -------Hamann----Johnson

    Ireland-------Elano----Petrov

    ------------Bianchi-------------

    so we win.
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    Post by Guest Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:19 pm

    they would be better off buying deco for 40M
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:20 pm

    One word: Berlusconi.

    If Milan weren't owned by him, Kaka would have been sold a long time ago.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:23 pm

    Berlu may refuse £40-50 million approaches... but no way is he saying no to £100M.... above all, he is a businessman...

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:One word: Berlusconi.

    If Milan weren't owned by him, Kaka would have been sold a long time ago.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:26 pm

    bluenine wrote:Berlu may refuse £40-50 million approaches... but no way is he saying no to £100M.... above all, he is a businessman...

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:One word: Berlusconi.

    If Milan weren't owned by him, Kaka would have been sold a long time ago.

    Actually Real reportedly offered something crazy like 60 million sterling. Berlu laughed it off. I think Berlusconi is a businessman when it comes to almost everything. But with Milan he is not exactly super pragmatic.

    Furthermore, this rumour is probably not even true. I will assure you, Berlusconi will never sell Kaka.
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    Post by gone Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:27 pm

    bluenine wrote:Berlu may refuse £40-50 million approaches... but no way is he saying no to £100M.... above all, he is a businessman...

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:One word: Berlusconi.

    If Milan weren't owned by him, Kaka would have been sold a long time ago.

    With a 10+ billion euro bank acount. Milan doesn't need money. But yes, with a £100 mil you could by the Red Wizz + Drogba.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:34 pm

    gone wrote:
    bluenine wrote:Berlu may refuse £40-50 million approaches... but no way is he saying no to £100M.... above all, he is a businessman...

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:One word: Berlusconi.

    If Milan weren't owned by him, Kaka would have been sold a long time ago.

    With a 10+ billion euro bank acount. Milan doesn't need money. But yes, with a £100 mil you could by the Red Wizz + Drogba.

    That's what I keep trying to tell people. This isn't a case of the Glazers taking over Man U and saddling them with debt.

    The Morattis and Berlusconis are in it because it is the "squadra nel cuore".

    Berlusconi is a businessman, but he has declared Kaka to be the new symbol of Milan after Maldini. To quote Capello, "it is an impossible dream to buy Kaka from Berlusconi. Knowing him, he will never ever sell Kaka."
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    Post by DS Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:56 pm

    Who would they buy to replace him looking at Milan recent signings Boban anyone.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:18 pm

    I do not disagree with what you say.... players like Kaka and Ibra will not be sold, even if a good offer is made... but if a ridiculous offer is made, then things can change...

    Sheva was also not for sale, but chelsea offered a ridiculous amount for a 30+ yr old.

    Zidane sale was a similar one for Juve, that was crazy money for 1 person, and I think even tho Juve lost the best player in the world at that time, they became stronger as a team coz that money funded the Nedved+Thuram+Buffon transfers!

    £100M could represent such a ridiculous offer.

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    That's what I keep trying to tell people. This isn't a case of the Glazers taking over Man U and saddling them with debt.

    The Morattis and Berlusconis are in it because it is the "squadra nel cuore".

    Berlusconi is a businessman, but he has declared Kaka to be the new symbol of Milan after Maldini. To quote Capello, "it is an impossible dream to buy Kaka from Berlusconi. Knowing him, he will never ever sell Kaka."
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:22 pm

    bluenine wrote:I do not disagree with what you say.... players like Kaka and Ibra will not be sold, even if a good offer is made... but if a ridiculous offer is made, then things can change...

    Sheva was also not for sale, but chelsea offered a ridiculous amount for a 30+ yr old.

    Zidane sale was a similar one for Juve, that was crazy money for 1 person, and I think even tho Juve lost the best player in the world at that time, they became stronger as a team coz that money funded the Nedved+Thuram+Buffon transfers!

    £100M could represent such a ridiculous offer.

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    That's what I keep trying to tell people. This isn't a case of the Glazers taking over Man U and saddling them with debt.

    The Morattis and Berlusconis are in it because it is the "squadra nel cuore".

    Berlusconi is a businessman, but he has declared Kaka to be the new symbol of Milan after Maldini. To quote Capello, "it is an impossible dream to buy Kaka from Berlusconi. Knowing him, he will never ever sell Kaka."

    Actually Sheva was not for sale until he asked to leave.

    Also, at 29-30, Milan may sell Kaka. But for the next 4 years? I don't see it.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:26 pm

    Well if Milan are so rich, how come they haven't invested in a decent keeper and a top class striker?
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    Post by bluenine Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:46 pm

    Coz they actually believe they already have them!! Seriously. Laugh

    I actually think sometimes Milan's way of giving players more than enough chances before judging them is very matured, and usually works out very well in the long run - eg Pirlo, Seedorf, Gattuso, etc.... and I can still understand the patience they have showing on Gila's case, which is very similar to their policy in the past... But the Dida bit has surely gone too far too long!!

    Tweedle wrote:Well if Milan are so rich, how come they haven't invested in a decent keeper and a top class striker?


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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:48 pm

    bluenine wrote:Coz the actually believe they already have them!! Seriously. Laugh

    I actually think sometimes Milan's way of giving players more than enough chances before judging them is very matured, and usually works out very well in the long run - eg Pirlo, Seedorf, Gattuso, etc.... and I can still understand the patience they have showing on Gila's case, which is very similar to their policy in the past... But the Dida bit has surely gone too far too long!!

    Tweedle wrote:Well if Milan are so rich, how come they haven't invested in a decent keeper and a top class striker?

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    Post by DS Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:50 pm

    Dont they need some defenders too , Nesta is getting on a bit with his injuries and they can get better then they got at the moment.
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    Post by Rez Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:53 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:I do not disagree with what you say.... players like Kaka and Ibra will not be sold, even if a good offer is made... but if a ridiculous offer is made, then things can change...

    Sheva was also not for sale, but chelsea offered a ridiculous amount for a 30+ yr old.

    Zidane sale was a similar one for Juve, that was crazy money for 1 person, and I think even tho Juve lost the best player in the world at that time, they became stronger as a team coz that money funded the Nedved+Thuram+Buffon transfers!

    £100M could represent such a ridiculous offer.

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    That's what I keep trying to tell people. This isn't a case of the Glazers taking over Man U and saddling them with debt.

    The Morattis and Berlusconis are in it because it is the "squadra nel cuore".

    Berlusconi is a businessman, but he has declared Kaka to be the new symbol of Milan after Maldini. To quote Capello, "it is an impossible dream to buy Kaka from Berlusconi. Knowing him, he will never ever sell Kaka."

    Actually Sheva was not for sale until he asked to leave.

    Also, at 29-30, Milan may sell Kaka. But for the next 4 years? I don't see it.

    Forza, I dont think anyone would offer a £100m for Kaka or anybody else. However if the offer came in you would sell him, football clubs just wouldnt refuse that kind of money. No one is worth that much to a club and with that money Milan would be able to buy players that would make the team stronger than it is now.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:01 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:Dont they need some defenders too , Nesta is getting on a bit with his injuries and they can get better then they got at the moment.

    The thing is, Milan's first order of business is to renew the contracts of the spine of the team/keep them.

    Nesta--Gattuso--Ambro---Pirlo--Seedorf---Kaka---Gila (yeah I know).

    These players are very handsomely paid. I mean Gattuso is a DM, and he makes quite a bit.

    To illustrate my point...Galliani was asked yesterday whether he was going to buy anyone in January. He said, no, and added that we will only be renewing contracts. You can probably guess who is first in line for that…Kaka. His new contract will reportedly seem him earn 8 million euros a year, and may also give him a portion of his image rights.

    After this spine is taken care of, Milan buy players here and there. For example, Bonera, who has been very good in defence lately, came out of nowhere.

    Our defence is old, but still quite good: Oddo (31), Nesta (31), Maldini (38 ), Bonera (26), Kaladze (29), Janku (30) and so on.

    Finally, the Champions League also contributed to this rosy outlook. We, after all, beat Bayern Munich and absolutely annihilated Man U. I feared that after the Man U win, the euphoria would mask the problems, and my fears came true. When we won the thing, the usual “we don’t need anyone, we are the best team in Europe” was uttered countless times.

    Yet, Galliani admitted that they inquired about Buffon, so we must be searching for a far better keeper. In short, we need a goalkeeper and 2 defenders. Maybe, we need a striker, but we have to see Pato first.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:04 pm

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    bluenine wrote:I do not disagree with what you say.... players like Kaka and Ibra will not be sold, even if a good offer is made... but if a ridiculous offer is made, then things can change...

    Sheva was also not for sale, but chelsea offered a ridiculous amount for a 30+ yr old.

    Zidane sale was a similar one for Juve, that was crazy money for 1 person, and I think even tho Juve lost the best player in the world at that time, they became stronger as a team coz that money funded the Nedved+Thuram+Buffon transfers!

    £100M could represent such a ridiculous offer.

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    That's what I keep trying to tell people. This isn't a case of the Glazers taking over Man U and saddling them with debt.

    The Morattis and Berlusconis are in it because it is the "squadra nel cuore".

    Berlusconi is a businessman, but he has declared Kaka to be the new symbol of Milan after Maldini. To quote Capello, "it is an impossible dream to buy Kaka from Berlusconi. Knowing him, he will never ever sell Kaka."

    Actually Sheva was not for sale until he asked to leave.

    Also, at 29-30, Milan may sell Kaka. But for the next 4 years? I don't see it.



    Forza, I dont think anyone would offer a £100m for Kaka or anybody else. However if the offer came in you would sell him, football clubs just wouldnt refuse that kind of money. No one is worth that much to a club and with that money Milan would be able to buy players that would make the team stronger than it is now.

    You know if it was up to me, I'd definitely think about it. But trust me man, Berlu will never sell Kaka. Especially now, after the way Real behaved. He is very stubborn, and he is also very proud.
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    Post by DS Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:09 pm

    Nesta is the only one that you can call quality in there ok throw in Oddo (liked him at Lazio same guy na ) , you cant keep depending on Maldini
    Kaladzhe , Janku , Bonera (never rated him really) are they really that good , cant Milan get better.
    Look at the defence of the top teams in Europe and compare is it really as good.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:11 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:Nesta is the only one that you can call quality in there ok throw in Oddo (liked him at Lazio same guy na ) , you cant keep depending on Maldini
    Kaladzhe , Janku , Bonera (never rated him really) are they really that good , cant Milan get better.
    Look at the defence of the top teams in Europe and compare is it really as good.

    Bonera and Kaladze have been very good for Milan. Are they world class? No. But if they are reliable, and are very good, I can live with Oddo and Nesta as being the standout players in our defence.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:15 pm

    I always thought that Jankulovski was as good as Zambrotta, and I still do. Whenever he plays, he does very well for Milan. Nesta is still quality, so is Oddo.

    Kaladze, Maldini, Simic, Cafu are decent backups... Bonera, I am still not convinced as a starter. Milan need at least 1 top CB for a team of their stature.

    Dark Savante wrote:Nesta is the only one that you can call quality in there ok throw in Oddo (liked him at Lazio same guy na ) , you cant keep depending on Maldini
    Kaladzhe , Janku , Bonera (never rated him really) are they really that good , cant Milan get better.
    Look at the defence of the top teams in Europe and compare is it really as good.

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