The price of Kaka

Real are rumoured to have offered Milan £43 Million plus Emerson & Cannavaro for the CL top scorer.... which makes me wonder.... Kaka is probably the most expensive player on the planet today, so how much do you think he is worth??

IMO he is arguably the most expensive football coz of the way he carried Milan in the CL this season, always solid, a modern footballer which every tactician would like - less frills, 3 consecutive good seasons, young age, great attitude, etc.

So how much would you pay for Kaka?

30 m pounds?

Jesus, that's a $h!t load of money for one player!

I would be happy with something along the lines of 35M pounds plus the two donkeys, but 43M!

We have other areas of the squad that need attentions such as LB, LW, RW. Would be stupid to blow the whole budget on one player.

£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

So that makes him worth £50 - 55 million.

Worth it I think, if you have that money.

Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

Kaka is only 1 year younger than Ronaldinho ?

Isn't he 2 years younger? Kaka is 25, Ronaldinho is 27 I think...

Mihawkavelli wrote:Kaka is only 1 year younger than Ronaldinho ?

A year and a couple of months.

bluenine wrote:Isn't he 2 years younger? Kaka is 25, Ronaldinho is 27 I think...

Mihawkavelli wrote:Kaka is only 1 year younger than Ronaldinho ?

Birthdates:

Kaka - April 22, 1981
Ronaldinho - March 21, 1980

Ronaldinho is around 397 days older ... Or 1 year, 1 month, 1 day

Ronaldinho should not be written off because of 1 season and Kaka should not be regarded the better player because of 1 season ... both quality players though..

Who the hell is writing off Ronaldinho? are they crazy?

It is more than worth it if Milan take Emerson and Cannavaro! Oh wait...that was my line two months ago. I am a huge fan of Kaka and would love to have him in Madrid; I don't think it will happen although I think Calderon will at least give it a try. I can't remember what the fee for Zidane was -- €70m. or something like that. But it was well worth it, watching him every week was a joy.

Jaime wrote:It is more than worth it if Milan take Emerson and Cannavaro! Oh wait...that was my line two months ago. I am a huge fan of Kaka and would love to have him in Madrid; I don't think it will happen although I think Calderon will at least give it a try. I can't remember what the fee for Zidane was -- €70m. or something like that. But it was well worth it, watching him every week was a joy.

If Madrid have the money, they should go for it. Kaka has 5 - 6 wonderful years in front of him.

bluenine wrote:Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

In football you never know, but I don't think Milan will ever be tempted by this offer. Berlusconi is a wealthy wealthy man, and I think Real's best chance to sign Kaka (if it was ever going to happen) was last summer.

Similarly I don't think Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona. But I was reading about Ibra and that is a realistic move. I think he may actually end up at Real or even Man U. The former is more realistic.

As for Kaka's price, well I think clubs set that. It's not fixed. I doubt, however, that this bid actually occurred or is going to. It's just tabloid talk.

bluenine wrote:Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

Kaka isnt that much younger, Ronaldinho has had a bad season, but he has kept his team in the title race and scored more domestic goals than Kaka. Kaka obviously has had the better CL campaign, but Barca played alot more difficult games than Milan, before they got knocked out.

Anyway I think people have very short memories, Ronaldinho is phenomenal. After 3 amazing seasons he was bound to have a dip in form, next season he will return to his best and show the world why Kaka and C Ronaldo are mere pretenders to his crown.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

In football you never know, but I don't think Milan will ever be tempted by this offer. Berlusconi is a wealthy wealthy man, and I think Real's best chance to sign Kaka (if it was ever going to happen) was last summer.

Similarly I don't think Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona. But I was reading about Ibra and that is a realistic move. I think he may actually end up at Real or even Man U. The former is more realistic.

As for Kaka's price, well I think clubs set that. It's not fixed. I doubt, however, that this bid actually occurred or is going to. It's just tabloid talk.

Why would Zlatan leave Inter, he has had a good season and won the league, there is no reason for Inter to sell him and they are a big club, who can usually hold onto there players.

I personally wouldnt want Zlatan, he is a very good player, but Old Trafford isn't big enough for his super ego. He would also upset the team balance and by constantly speaking in the 3rd person he would embarrass the club.

Real already have Cassano in their squad, i dont think they would want another brat.

Rez wrote:Real already have Cassano in their squad, i dont think they would want another brat.

This will be remedied soon enough.

i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

Rez wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

In football you never know, but I don't think Milan will ever be tempted by this offer. Berlusconi is a wealthy wealthy man, and I think Real's best chance to sign Kaka (if it was ever going to happen) was last summer.

Similarly I don't think Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona. But I was reading about Ibra and that is a realistic move. I think he may actually end up at Real or even Man U. The former is more realistic.

As for Kaka's price, well I think clubs set that. It's not fixed. I doubt, however, that this bid actually occurred or is going to. It's just tabloid talk.

Why would Zlatan leave Inter, he has had a good season and won the league, there is no reason for Inter to sell him and they are a big club, who can usually hold onto there players.



I personally wouldnt want Zlatan, he is a very good player, but Old Trafford isn't big enough for his super ego. He would also upset the team balance and by constantly speaking in the 3rd person he would embarrass the club.



Real already have Cassano in their squad, i dont think they would want another brat.

I read that Ibra was having a conflict with his wage negotiations. He is paid something ridiculous currently, but he wants more.

I agree that he has had a fantastic season, and I can see him stay. But players at Inter have a tendency to be unhappy. Weird really, as Moratti gives his all to the club and spoils the players. The man is 100% Inter, and it's sad to see him treated like this. He is way too generous.

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

The galactico era seems to be over at Real. Carlos's departure will signal an end to that era.

They are buying much more sensibly now. Calderon has to save face with all his claims of Ronaldo and Kaka. But he always knew they were out of reach.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

The galactico era seems to be over at Real. Carlos's departure will signal an end to that era.

They are buying much more sensibly now. Calderon has to save face with all his claims of Ronaldo and Kaka. But he always knew they were out of reach.

the galactico era will never be over i think. they will always buy big players and profit from marketing. i think our marketing section had a plan ready last year when all the rumours came of kaka. the plan was what contract and how they would use his image which they mean was a untapped area by milan. it might seem more sensibly but if man utd would have let them get ronaldo for 60 mil im sure we would have bought him. if we are not going to get a galactico it will be because calderon is simply not half the business man Perez was.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

bluenine wrote:Kaka is younger, and getting better all the time... without getting into who is better, eitherways, I think kaka is worth more money.

But £43 M + Canna+Emerson = about £53M which is a lot of money. Might be just enough to tempt Milan.

Rez wrote:£43m is alot, so how much for an inform Ronaldinho, £60m? Last season Dinho not only helped his team win the CL but he also helped them win the domestic league. I think Kaka is awesome, but Ronaldinho is a level above.

In football you never know, but I don't think Milan will ever be tempted by this offer. Berlusconi is a wealthy wealthy man, and I think Real's best chance to sign Kaka (if it was ever going to happen) was last summer.

Similarly I don't think Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona. But I was reading about Ibra and that is a realistic move. I think he may actually end up at Real or even Man U. The former is more realistic.

As for Kaka's price, well I think clubs set that. It's not fixed. I doubt, however, that this bid actually occurred or is going to. It's just tabloid talk.

Why would Zlatan leave Inter, he has had a good season and won the league, there is no reason for Inter to sell him and they are a big club, who can usually hold onto there players.



I personally wouldnt want Zlatan, he is a very good player, but Old Trafford isn't big enough for his super ego. He would also upset the team balance and by constantly speaking in the 3rd person he would embarrass the club.



Real already have Cassano in their squad, i dont think they would want another brat.

I read that Ibra was having a conflict with his wage negotiations. He is paid something ridiculous currently, but he wants more.

I agree that he has had a fantastic season, and I can see him stay. But players at Inter have a tendency to be unhappy. Weird really, as Moratti gives his all to the club and spoils the players. The man is 100% Inter, and it's sad to see him treated like this. He is way too generous.

You are right about Inter having problems with players, but now they are league champions and have a very good squad that can retain their title. So you would assume, everything should be good at Inter.

As for Zlatan, he has no loyalty, he only thinks about himself and he will cause problems where ever he goes. I hope he grows out of it as he has fantastic talent. MAybe a few years with Fergie or Mourinho would sort his personality out.

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

The galactico era seems to be over at Real. Carlos's departure will signal an end to that era.

They are buying much more sensibly now. Calderon has to save face with all his claims of Ronaldo and Kaka. But he always knew they were out of reach.

the galactico era will never be over i think. they will always buy big players and profit from marketing. i think our marketing section had a plan ready last year when all the rumours came of kaka. the plan was what contract and how they would use his image which they mean was a untapped area by milan. it might seem more sensibly but if man utd would have let them get ronaldo for 60 mil im sure we would have bought him. if we are not going to get a galactico it will be because calderon is simply not half the business man Perez was.

Perez was a class act. Calderon is not half of what he was.

Kaka's image has been used to a great degree by Milan, so you are wrong about that. Milan are very very good at marketing as well.

You will not get a galactico, in my opinion, this summer or even the next. The reason is simple. Man U and Milan are not selling clubs. Berlusconi is worth something like 12 billion US dollars. The money you will offer, he doesn't need.

Man U are also very wealthy. Contrast this with when Juve sold you Zidane. They are a rich club, but their philosophy is different. They replaced Zidane with Nedved. Even if we get Ronaldinho (unlikely) we would never sell you Kaka. Berlu wants to see Ronaldinho-Kaka-Ronaldo up front.

Honestly, last summer, I thought you guys had a small chance of getting Kaka. Calderon blew it, IMO, and the relationship between the clubs will never be the same--even with the purchase of Ronaldo.

At the end of August 31, we'll see.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote: Berlusconi is worth something like 12 billion US dollars. The money you will offer, he doesn't need.

Correct, if Berlusconi wants to keep Kaka, then no matter how much money they offer we won't sell. Apart from that, over the past few years we have become somewhat of a self-sustained club; we'are one of the wealthiest clubs even without Berlusca's billions. In addition, Ancelotti is talking big, so i really think that we're gonna splash a few $ this summer

How about we give you Recoba, Adriano, and Figo for Kaka?? ]We will throw in Samuel for free as a deal sweetner...

Good deal, you should take it!

Red n' Black wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote: Berlusconi is worth something like 12 billion US dollars. The money you will offer, he doesn't need.

Correct, if Berlusconi wants to keep Kaka, then no matter how much money they offer we won't sell. Apart from that, over the past few years we have become somewhat of a self-sustained club; we'are one of the wealthiest clubs even without Berlusca's billions. In addition, Ancelotti is talking big, so i really think that we're gonna splash a few $ this summer

How 'bout Cambiasso, Materazzi and Ibra?

Red n' Black wrote:How 'bout Cambiasso, Materazzi and Ibra?

You would be a fool to swap Kaká for those 3... Kaká, along with Dinho, is one of those few players that are irreplaceable..

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

Red n' Black wrote:How 'bout Cambiasso, Materazzi and Ibra?

You would be a fool to swap Kaká for those 3... Kaká, along with Dinho, is one of those few players that are irreplaceable..

I think he was joking .

By the way...good news: only a 1 match ban for Ronaldinho.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i know that calderon will want to use the money we earned from the tv deal which is why he doesnt want to go above 60mil euros/pounds. we should try to solve some of the problems we have in our current squad but when that is done i would love a galactico buy because i have gotten used to them and they gives a bit of magic over the team.

The galactico era seems to be over at Real. Carlos's departure will signal an end to that era.

They are buying much more sensibly now. Calderon has to save face with all his claims of Ronaldo and Kaka. But he always knew they were out of reach.

the galactico era will never be over i think. they will always buy big players and profit from marketing. i think our marketing section had a plan ready last year when all the rumours came of kaka. the plan was what contract and how they would use his image which they mean was a untapped area by milan. it might seem more sensibly but if man utd would have let them get ronaldo for 60 mil im sure we would have bought him. if we are not going to get a galactico it will be because calderon is simply not half the business man Perez was.

Perez was a class act. Calderon is not half of what he was.

Kaka's image has been used to a great degree by Milan, so you are wrong about that. Milan are very very good at marketing as well.

You will not get a galactico, in my opinion, this summer or even the next. The reason is simple. Man U and Milan are not selling clubs. Berlusconi is worth something like 12 billion US dollars. The money you will offer, he doesn't need.

Man U are also very wealthy. Contrast this with when Juve sold you Zidane. They are a rich club, but their philosophy is different. They replaced Zidane with Nedved. Even if we get Ronaldinho (unlikely) we would never sell you Kaka. Berlu wants to see Ronaldinho-Kaka-Ronaldo up front.

Honestly, last summer, I thought you guys had a small chance of getting Kaka. Calderon blew it, IMO, and the relationship between the clubs will never be the same--even with the purchase of Ronaldo.

At the end of August 31, we'll see.

you might think you have used kakas image but Real would prob use it alot more since its a place where we have made our most money. also player himself is only part of marketing thing. the actual buy of kaka is a huge part aswell. also im not sure perez was a class act but he was much more subtle. and if he wanted a player he would normally have a good chance of getting him.with perez i would say we would have had 50% of getting kaka but not its 10% since calderon is too stupid. its also not all about the amount of money. if barca could go back they would choose keeping figo instead of selling him. perez was just good at convincing the player. and i gues we wont get a galactico this summer either but it is not a tactic that will be forgotten.

Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:

Red n' Black wrote:How 'bout Cambiasso, Materazzi and Ibra?

You would be a fool to swap Kaká for those 3... Kaká, along with Dinho, is one of those few players that are irreplaceable..

I was merely replying to bluenine's suggestion with a more 'realistic' trade. I'd NEVER swap Kaka, hence i wasn't really being serious

Although on current form, Ibra-Cambiasso and probably Matrix would all have been starters in Milan