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    Kaka to Chelsea for 80m?

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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:05 am

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/19/premierleague.serieafootball

    Chelsea set to land Kaka for record £80m· Negotiations with Milan at an advanced stage
    · World player of the year keen on move to London

    Julio Gomes Filho and Sid Lowe in Madrid The Guardian, Saturday July 19, 2008

    The world player of the year is said to view a move to Chelsea as 'attractive'.

    Chelsea appear set to sign the Milan playmaker Kaka for a world-record €100m (£79.3m) after discussions took place this week, with both clubs and the Brazil international keen for a deal to go through. Sources at Stamford Bridge have confirmed that Chelsea are targeting the 26-year-old and it is understood that Milan are inclined to accept a bid of €100m tabled this week.

    Initially reluctant to depart, Kaka now believes the transfer, which would smash the record of £46m Real Madrid paid for Zinedine Zidane in 2001, is in everyone's interests. His contract does not expire until 2012 but he is eager to play for Luiz Felipe Scolari, who gave him his international debut against Bolivia in 2002 and included him in the Brazil squad for that year's World Cup finals despite him being only 20 years old. The current world and European player of the year also believes Chelsea are the most attractive destination in European football.

    Chelsea sent a representative to Milan this week to present a bid to the Italian club. Far from rejecting the offer out of hand as is normal practice and as they did with approaches from Real Madrid last summer, Milan sent a delegation to London and negotiations have continued.

    Discussions have also taken place with the player's camp over personal terms, with Kaka, who has scored 22 goals in 59 games for his country, set to earn a significant rise on his salary as well as a €15m signing-on fee. He will arrive in Milan today after spending the summer recovering from arthroscopy on his knee at Sao Paulo's training centre in Brazil.

    "Real Madrid offered €90m last summer and Milan did not even think about the bid," said Kaka's personal assistant and closest adviser, Diogo Kotscho. "This time is different. This is the first time we feel that a deal will definitely happen. Because of the [financial] situation Milan are in at the moment, the deal is good for all parties involved.

    "The move would represent a significant increase in Kaka's salary, on top of the 10% transfer fee that goes straight to the player anyway - some €15m. Chelsea are the club to be at right now. They are building a team to win everything."

    Given their current financial difficulties, Milan can ill afford to reject such a huge bid. Having failed to qualify for the Champions League, they have had to cut costs at the same time as embarking on the renewal of an ageing squad. They continue to seek a striker and the sale of Kaka would enable them to follow through on their interest in Arsenal's Emmanuel Adebayor, despite their vice-president Adriano Galliani's claim that Ronaldinho would be their final signing of the summer. Meanwhile, the arrival of the former Barcelona player - and the tumultuous reception he was given - has persuaded them they can release Kaka, safe in the knowledge that they have a glamour signing in his place.

    Kaka believes he has shown his loyalty to Milan by staying last season, despite Madrid's interest. He has not demanded a transfer this season either, with the impetus coming from the two clubs. However, he does not want to continue at a club that will not play in this season's Champions League. Kaka's relationship with Galliani and the club's owner Silvio Berlusconi has also been strained by Milan's refusal to allow him to represent Brazil at the Olympics. Milan said Kaka was "tired" - a claim he publicly denied. Worse still, Ronaldinho has been allowed to go to Beijing.

    If the deal can be completed it would virtually destroy the chances of the Real Madrid forward Robinho completing his "dream" move to Stamford Bridge. The La Liga champions are unwilling to sell until they can sign Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United. Last night Sir Alex Ferguson insisted the Portugal winger would still be at Old Trafford next season

    Hmm interesting that Sid Lowe, who normally doesn't do Serie A, is involved in this story, and Globesporte is a Brazilian media isn't it? scratch Anything about this in Italian papers today?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:34 am

    so he couldn't get Robinho so he moved on to his 2nd choce, Kaka?

    Yikes

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    Post by fcb Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:47 am

    The comments from his agent are what makes this story surprising - he's only just had a contract extension, so it can't be trying to use the interest to get more money out of Milan.

    Would be an unbelievable transfer for sure, it'll really shake up the entire market if this happens.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:51 am

    Kas - I don't know who Kaka's agent is but is 'personal assistant and closest adviser' the same thing?

    Or do I smell the imminent news that Lump of Lard has signed for Inter?
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    Post by fcb Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:53 am

    Possibly...possibly not. I just took it to mean his agent, but you're right, could be someone else.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:55 am

    Still think it's odd that Lowe is involved in this story too.
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    Post by TITO Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:11 am

    What do Milan fans think about this?
    Replacing Kaka with Ronaldinho?
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    Post by Calidad Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:19 am

    His personal assistant? Hardly an authorative source. Can't see this move happening anyway.
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    Post by shazlx Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:23 am

    Interesting Suspect . Chelsea already have a player in his position who is better (Deco) but kick and run Kaka does have the :hight + pace: to succeed in the PL.

    More importantly, does it mean Milan will pay £30m for Adebayor? Come on Roman. Make it happen.
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    Post by Calidad Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:27 am

    shazlx wrote:Interesting Suspect . Chelsea already have a player in his position who is better (Deco) but kick and run Kaka does have the :hight + pace: to succeed in the PL.

    More importantly, does it mean Milan will pay £30m for Adebayor? Come on Roman. Make it happen.

    bit like Henry then ok
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    Post by shazlx Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:33 am

    Calidad wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Interesting Suspect . Chelsea already have a player in his position who is better (Deco) but kick and run Kaka does have the :hight + pace: to succeed in the PL.

    More importantly, does it mean Milan will pay £30m for Adebayor? Come on Roman. Make it happen.

    bit like Henry then ok
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    Post by Red n' Black Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:38 pm

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    Post by Luis Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:04 pm

    Can some one tell me how Chelsea would line up next season if they got Kaka? can't figure it out
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:10 pm

    ------- Essien ---- Ballack

    ------------- Deco

    --- Kaka -------------- J Cole

    ------------ Drogba

    Yikes

    Though I could see Milan asking for Drogba in part of the deal, given their previous interest.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:38 pm

    lol!

    Diogo last summer: "Kaka to Real I think will happen. It would be good for all the parties involved. He should think about it."

    Won't happen.

    Milan have officially released a statement through their communication director: Kaka is unsellable.

    I must say the British media is so gullible. For example, skysports, bbc etc. actually thought that Man City were going to sign Dinho because of what Laporta said. They also uncritically reproduce what AS and Marca say. Kotschko is one of the advisers for Kaka who stands to gain a lot if he moves. He said Kaka-Real was practically done last summer until Kaka came out and said no. And why would Kaka move to Chelsea? No offence, but most top Brazilians prefer to ply their trade in Italy or Spain. And Chelsea hardly embody the attacking, exciting football they crave.
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    Post by Murray Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:16 pm

    It would be really stupid of Milan to sell Kaka and replace him with Ronaldinho who is probably past it.

    As for Milan's alleged financial problems, this is such a load of Cr@p and they should stop whingeing about it.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:06 pm

    http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=49889&archive=archive

    Kakà: Real Madrid offer 90 million euros

    28.07.2007, 15:27

    Brazilian website Globoesporte.com reveals, in an interview to Diogo Kotscho, personal advisor to Milan star Kaka, that Real Madrid have made the Rossoneri an offer of 90 million euros for the player. “Real Madrid are convinced that amount of money will change Milan’s minds and I think this is an offer Kaka should consider carefully.” Real Madrid would also offer Kaka a five-year contract thanks to which he would earn much more than what he currently pockets.

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    Post by Super Progress Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:31 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=49889&archive=archive

    Kakà: Real Madrid offer 90 million euros

    28.07.2007, 15:27

    Brazilian website Globoesporte.com reveals, in an interview to Diogo Kotscho, personal advisor to Milan star Kaka, that Real Madrid have made the Rossoneri an offer of 90 million euros for the player. “Real Madrid are convinced that amount of money will change Milan’s minds and I think this is an offer Kaka should consider carefully.” Real Madrid would also offer Kaka a five-year contract thanks to which he would earn much more than what he currently pockets.

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    Post by fcb Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:33 pm

    Erm, supermadrid, Crazy58 is pointing out that this Diogo chap said the same thing *last year* about Kaka to Madrid...so we all shouldn't make much of this story today linking him to Chelsea.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:44 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:
    TheCrazy58 wrote:http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=46&a=49889&archive=archive

    Kakà: Real Madrid offer 90 million euros

    28.07.2007, 15:27

    Brazilian website Globoesporte.com reveals, in an interview to Diogo Kotscho, personal advisor to Milan star Kaka, that Real Madrid have made the Rossoneri an offer of 90 million euros for the player. “Real Madrid are convinced that amount of money will change Milan’s minds and I think this is an offer Kaka should consider carefully.” Real Madrid would also offer Kaka a five-year contract thanks to which he would earn much more than what he currently pockets.

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    This better be true.

    Read the timestamp... lol! lol!
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:10 pm

    Laugh
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    Post by Super Progress Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:25 pm

    Blush Sad
    Damn just when i got my hopes up. well i read that Kaka has said that there is two clubs after him with one of them being Chelsea and we could be the other one.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:57 pm

    Milan "rejected Chelsea's Kaka bid"
    Saturday 19 July, 2008
    Adriano Galliani confirms Chelsea made a massive offer for Kaka, but assures “he’s not going anywhere.”

    The Guardian reported today that the Stamford Bridge side had proposed a record-breaking £80m to tempt the Brazilian away.

    “It’s true that Chelsea made a conspicuous offer, but I will not say how much it was,” the general manager told journalists this evening.

    “It is equally true that we said no. President Silvio Berlusconi rejected the chance to sell Kaka, just as he told Real Madrid no in 2001 for Andriy Shevchenko.”

    Although Sheva eventually did leave to join Chelsea for £30m, the decision to part company was made only after the Ukrainian requested the transfer.

    “Kaka is going nowhere and neither is Clarence Seedorf,” added Galliani. “The fans can sleep easy.”

    Despite reports in Spain and England, Kaka seems to be settled at Milan and looking forward to the new season with Ronaldinho and Alexandre Pato.

    Galliani also revealed another bid that failed to materialise over the summer for Fiorentina goalkeeper Sebastien Frey.

    “We requested Frey, but the response was such a high figure that we gave up.”
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:57 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:Blush Sad
    Damn just when i got my hopes up. well i read that Kaka has said that there is two clubs after him with one of them being Chelsea and we could be the other one.

    You won't get Kaka. Maybe when he is 30-31.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:58 pm

    According to Glonoesporte Chelsea offered € 100 million.

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL651527-9842,00-CHELSEA+DO+TECNICO+FELIPAO+OFICIALIZA+PROPOSTA+PARA+TER+KAKA+MILHOES.html

    The strange thing is that Globoesporte is a reliable source.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:02 pm

    sheva7 wrote:According to Glonoesporte Chelsea offered € 100 million.

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL651527-9842,00-CHELSEA+DO+TECNICO+FELIPAO+OFICIALIZA+PROPOSTA+PARA+TER+KAKA+MILHOES.html

    The strange thing is that Globoesporte is a reliable source.

    Yeah Galliani confirmed a mega offer. BUt Berlusconi said no. This is the issue...if Berlu wants a player, he will keep him. Kaka is the highest earner of second highest earner in the world at Milan. He is also going to be our symbol. Real and Chelsea will naturally bid, but until Berlusconi wants Kaka there he will stay. Plus, Kaka is very happy at Milan and just signed an extension.
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    Post by Calidad Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:15 pm

    sheva7 wrote:According to Glonoesporte Chelsea offered € 100 million.

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL651527-9842,00-CHELSEA+DO+TECNICO+FELIPAO+OFICIALIZA+PROPOSTA+PARA+TER+KAKA+MILHOES.html

    The strange thing is that Globoesporte is a reliable source.

    That is a huge sum of money if true (and it's probably a reasonably accurate figure because any would need to break the bank to even tempt Milan to consider letting Kaka go.

    With that sort of money Milan could bring 3-4 high quality players in and still have some left over.

    What would the fans be happier with; say Zapata, Frey, Adebayor & Veloso (for example) or Kaka?
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:39 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:According to Glonoesporte Chelsea offered € 100 million.

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL651527-9842,00-CHELSEA+DO+TECNICO+FELIPAO+OFICIALIZA+PROPOSTA+PARA+TER+KAKA+MILHOES.html

    The strange thing is that Globoesporte is a reliable source.

    That is a huge sum of money if true (and it's probably a reasonably accurate figure because any would need to break the bank to even tempt Milan to consider letting Kaka go.

    With that sort of money Milan could bring 3-4 high quality players in and still have some left over.

    What would the fans be happier with; say Zapata, Frey, Adebayor & Veloso (for example) or Kaka?

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    Calidad wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:According to Glonoesporte Chelsea offered € 100 million.

    http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL651527-9842,00-CHELSEA+DO+TECNICO+FELIPAO+OFICIALIZA+PROPOSTA+PARA+TER+KAKA+MILHOES.html

    The strange thing is that Globoesporte is a reliable source.

    That is a huge sum of money if true (and it's probably a reasonably accurate figure because any would need to break the bank to even tempt Milan to consider letting Kaka go.

    With that sort of money Milan could bring 3-4 high quality players in and still have some left over.

    What would the fans be happier with; say Zapata, Frey, Adebayor & Veloso (for example) or Kaka?

    Z=10-15
    Frey=15
    Ade= 30
    Veloso- 25

    85 million euros and 15 spare.
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    Post by Luis Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:50 am

    I'd love it if they spent 80 odd million on him, he came and was shite or got a long term injury. Can't see this transfer happening anyway, Kaka will be frightened by Sheva's lack of success in England and knows Milan fans will pack the San Siro to see him and Ronaldinho in the same colours.

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