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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:56 pm

    Confirmed

    They're dropping like flies. Does this mean Martin Jol will be the new Sevilla manager?
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    Post by Batman Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:11 pm

    i thought Ramos plays for Real Madrid. scratch
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:11 pm

    Definately to be Spurs manager then and not a bad appointment!
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:18 pm

    Batman wrote:i thought Ramos plays for Real Madrid. scratch

    you're thinking of Raúl
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    Post by Deano Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:19 pm

    Batman wrote:i thought Ramos plays for Real Madrid. scratch
    He moved to Xerez for £16m.
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    Post by fcb Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:44 pm

    Ramos refused to say goodbye to the fans through a press conference, instead just posting a statement on his website. As a result, here are a selection of fan responses (taken from one user's post on Rojadirecta forums, so he's obviously made some selective copy-pastes) Laugh


    ADIOS SEÑOR CON PROBLEMAS PARA HABLAR

    Espero que se encuentre una bonita noche con los head hunters, o la green street firm o algun hooligan del Arsenal, vuestros amigos, en un bonito pub del norte de londres y alli les explique con su fluido dominio del habla, el como se puede dejar a un club tirado en medio de la temporada y convencer a jugadores que jamás les llegará esa oportunidad de quedarse en un barco que abandona como esos mamiferos portadores de la peste.
    Lo normal es que no le entiendan o se aburran cuando intente llevarse 4 minutos diciendo..EX - EX- EEE- EX CUSE MME, asi que tire de chequera e inviteles a unas pintas que a lo mejor asi entienden el valor del futbol actual y los valores como persona que tiene.
    Ojalá lo veamos el año que viene jugando con el Wimbeldon.


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    Este antes de venir aquí no era nadie, sin el Sevilla no es nadie, adios Juande, ya querrás volver, gran fallo intentar llenar de dinero lo que has vaciado con palabras


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    Adios al mejor entrenador de la historia del Sevilla F.C y al más hijo de puta, sucio, frío, mal nacido y pesetero


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    ADIOS HIJO DE PUTA, OJALA BAJES A SEGUNDA CON TU EQUIPUCHO


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    ADIOS PERRO!!


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    LLEVATE AL 5 CON TU PM TRAIDOR


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    OJALA TE MUERAS


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    Que te follen Juande


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    Ya tardais en abrir el post del segundazo del tottenham.

    Ojalá se pudra allí


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    ¡Juande Ramos, mercenario!.


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    es el mejor entrenador de la historia del sevilla, pero tambien un hijo de puta


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    So cabron, ojalá te vaya mal el resto de tu vida y que en la vida alguién te deje tirado como tú nos vas a dejar. ¡Ah! y recuerdas que todo lo que se siembra se recoge.


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    Pues nada, vayase a tomar mucho por culo, que manera de dejar tirado al equipo con todo empezado.


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    A SEGUNDA CABRON


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    Con su puta madre y que se pudra en segunda con los Spurs de los cojones


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    Pudrase con su miserable dinero, y ojalá fracase y en poco tiempo nadie oiga hablar de usted


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    Te deseo que tengas un futuro deportivo similar al de Irureta después de salir del deportivos.

    Espero que descienda tu próximo equipo y te traigas los mismos recuerdos de inglaterra que reyes.


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    Gracias por todo.. HIJO DE PUTA
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    Post by Lordanger Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:48 pm

    poor bloke, does he know what he is letting himself in for? Spurs is a blackhole of a club where reputations and careers disappear.
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    Post by Luso Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:25 pm

    kas wrote:Ramos refused to say goodbye to the fans through a press conference, instead just posting a statement on his website. As a result, here are a selection of fan responses (taken from one user's post on Rojadirecta forums, so he's obviously made some selective copy-pastes) Laugh


    ADIOS SEÑOR CON PROBLEMAS PARA HABLAR

    Espero que se encuentre una bonita noche con los head hunters, o la green street firm o algun hooligan del Arsenal, vuestros amigos, en un bonito pub del norte de londres y alli les explique con su fluido dominio del habla, el como se puede dejar a un club tirado en medio de la temporada y convencer a jugadores que jamás les llegará esa oportunidad de quedarse en un barco que abandona como esos mamiferos portadores de la peste.
    Lo normal es que no le entiendan o se aburran cuando intente llevarse 4 minutos diciendo..EX - EX- EEE- EX CUSE MME, asi que tire de chequera e inviteles a unas pintas que a lo mejor asi entienden el valor del futbol actual y los valores como persona que tiene.
    Ojalá lo veamos el año que viene jugando con el Wimbeldon.


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    Este antes de venir aquí no era nadie, sin el Sevilla no es nadie, adios Juande, ya querrás volver, gran fallo intentar llenar de dinero lo que has vaciado con palabras


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    Adios al mejor entrenador de la historia del Sevilla F.C y al más hijo de puta, sucio, frío, mal nacido y pesetero


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    ADIOS HIJO DE PUTA, OJALA BAJES A SEGUNDA CON TU EQUIPUCHO


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    ADIOS PERRO!!


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    LLEVATE AL 5 CON TU PM TRAIDOR


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    OJALA TE MUERAS


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    Que te follen Juande


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    Ya tardais en abrir el post del segundazo del tottenham.

    Ojalá se pudra allí


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    ¡Juande Ramos, mercenario!.


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    es el mejor entrenador de la historia del sevilla, pero tambien un hijo de puta


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    So cabron, ojalá te vaya mal el resto de tu vida y que en la vida alguién te deje tirado como tú nos vas a dejar. ¡Ah! y recuerdas que todo lo que se siembra se recoge.


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    Pues nada, vayase a tomar mucho por culo, que manera de dejar tirado al equipo con todo empezado.


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    A SEGUNDA CABRON


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    Con su puta madre y que se pudra en segunda con los Spurs de los cojones


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    Pudrase con su miserable dinero, y ojalá fracase y en poco tiempo nadie oiga hablar de usted


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    Te deseo que tengas un futuro deportivo similar al de Irureta después de salir del deportivos.

    Espero que descienda tu próximo equipo y te traigas los mismos recuerdos de inglaterra que reyes.


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    Gracias por todo.. HIJO DE PUTA


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    Adios al mejor entrenador de la historia del Sevilla F.C y al más hijo de puta, sucio, frío, mal nacido y pesetero

    Que te follen Juande

    So cabron, ojalá te vaya mal el resto de tu vida y que en la vida alguién te deje tirado como tú nos vas a dejar. ¡Ah! y recuerdas que todo lo que se siembra se recoge.

    OJALA TE MUERAS
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    It shows a lack of character to do what he did. After having asked commitment from his players, guys like Dani Alves...only to jump ship.

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    Post by NCFC Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:34 pm

    Why the f@ck did Ramos refuse to say goodbye. He has given the club the best spell in its history, weird.

    Adios al mejor entrenador de la historia del Sevilla F.C y al más hijo de puta, sucio, frío, mal nacido y pesetero


    That ones the best Laughing.
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    Post by golsud Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:36 pm

    I would've done the same. Spurs are paying him insane money.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:37 pm

    Potentially he will be the highest paid manager in the Premiership. Yikes

    Nice money if you can get it.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:50 pm

    Cesc wrote:Potentially he will be the highest paid manager in the Premiership. Yikes

    Nice money if you can get it.

    How much?
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:55 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Cesc wrote:Potentially he will be the highest paid manager in the Premiership. Yikes

    Nice money if you can get it.

    How much?

    This is from Sky Sports:

    "Reports are now suggesting that a four-year deal worth 28million euros (£19.6million) is on offer for Ramos at White Hart Lane - which Sevilla are unable to match. "

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_2825918,00.html

    Yikes
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:57 pm

    Hold on, that's 90odd grand a week isn't it? scratch
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:58 pm

    Arsene Wenger's new contract which he signed last month is £12m over three years.
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:00 am

    Cesc wrote:Arsene Wenger's new contract which he signed last month is £12m over three years.

    That's still about 20k a week less than Ramos.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:00 am

    Yep. I heard that he was being offered £4m a year but it seems that it is even more. Absolutely crazy money if this is true.
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:02 am

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Yep. I heard that he was being offered £4m a year but it seems that it is even more. Absolutely crazy money if this is true.

    How much did Chelsea pay Mourinho when he was in charge and does anyone know what SAFs wages is at Man United ?
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:06 am

    I don't know, but I would imagine Wenger, Ferguson and Mourinho were/are all being paid roughly the same amount, somewhere around £4m.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:08 am

    £1.5m+ compensation for Sevilla as well. Martin Jol's payoff is rumoured to be £4m.

    Its a huge move by Spurs, if I was a fan of theirs I would be pleased by the ambition shown to bring in a manager of a good pedigree and standing.

    Mourinho was on £5.1m a year at Chelsea. Its hard to find how much Sir Alex is on, I think he signs 12 month rolling contracts each Summer.
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    Post by Deano Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:10 am

    Before the season started...I wouldn't have expected both Jol and Mourinho to be sacked...
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    Post by Fey Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:18 am

    Really? You expected that Bent would do well then?

    Still...Ramos is going to work with an inferior squad then he is used to!! I think he likes the challenge Very Happy
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    Post by fcb Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:27 am

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Yep. I heard that he was being offered £4m a year but it seems that it is even more. Absolutely crazy money if this is true.

    No, I that is accurate - 6 million euros a year for 4 years.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:33 am

    Cesc wrote:Potentially he will be the highest paid manager in the Premiership. Yikes

    Nice money if you can get it.

    good news for SAF too if you believe the rumor that his contract stipulates that he must be the highest paid manager in the league.
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    Post by Calidad Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:49 am

    Managing Spurs is a no-win situation. They aren't and probably won't ever be good enough to break into the top four.
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    Post by Jaime Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:21 am

    golsud wrote:I would've done the same. Spurs are paying him insane money.

    As would anyone...people leave jobs all the time for better ones or higher paying ones. I don't know why anyone should be so offended. It's a little different because he did have a contract but whatever...that's the way it is.
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    Post by fcb Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:44 am

    Yeah, like I said, Ramos had no other option because his contract expires at the end of this season and he would have moved on anyway, and Spurs' offer is reportedly take it or leave it. So if he gave up 6 million euros a year now, then he may never have got that again in his career.

    The Sevilla fans are unhappy because he's left midway through the season, in a sudden fashion, and as I've said before, that's why Levy and the Spurs board have to take the majority of the blame. Not Ramos.
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    Post by DS Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:26 am

    Understand what Sevilla fans are saying cant blame him also to point at Spurs he would have much financial backing not to add a chance to prove himself in a different league.
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    Post by Puro Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:47 am

    That WAS a "dizzying" offer indeed. Good luck to Juande Ramos even though Sevilla fans hate his guts now.

    Can you imagine Alves' reaction after Juande asked him personally to stay at Sevilla for another season. Alves also had his "dizzying" offer from Chelsea, but Juande and Sevilla didn't let him go.

    Such is the world of sports, just like everything else fellows. You want loyalty? Get a dog! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by EMP Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:20 am

    Can't blame Ramos for going. If sevilla wanted him to stay del Nido could have indicated that he would be extended with a pay rise. Would have made sense for Sevilla as well as Ramos worked well in Sevilla's set up and it would mean more compensation if he left for a dizzying offer.

    However, after his complaints about how he was treated by Espanyol his behaviour is disappointing. Don't blame him for going, but he should have had the class to say a proper goodbye to Sevilla's fans.

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