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Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:I dreamt of the Green Hell yesterday:
By the way we won in the end.
Time to learn the lyrics so you can sing along
GRUNNINGS LAID
Van Lauwerzee tot Dollard tou,
Van Drenthe tot aan 't Wad,
Doar gruit, doar bluit ain wonderlaand
Rondom ain wondre stad.
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
is Grönnen, Stad en Ommelaand;
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
Is Stad en Ommelaand!
Doar Broest de zee, doar hoelt de wind,
Doar soest 't aan diek en wad,
Moar rusteg waarkt en wuilt het volk,
Het volk van Loug en Stad.
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
is Grönnen, Stad en Ommelaand;
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
Is Stad en Ommelaand!
Doar woont de dege degelkhaid,
De wille, vast as stoal,
Doar vuilt het haart, wat tonge sprekt,
In richt- en slichte toal.
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
is Grönnen, Stad en Ommelaand;
Ain Pronkjewail in golden raand
Is Stad en Ommelaand
it'll be a 2-2 draw
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Whose anthem is that, the Province Groningen's or the City Groningen's? Doesn't sound like it's the clubs.
Anyway how should I pronounce it (can you do a phonetic version )
Guess 'golden' is pronounced as gold'n, you don't do e's before a final n do you?
Isn't their some song about the Martinitoren, is that the city's anthem?
Anyway how should I pronounce it (can you do a phonetic version
)Guess 'golden' is pronounced as gold'n, you don't do e's before a final n do you?
Isn't their some song about the Martinitoren, is that the city's anthem?
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jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:Whose anthem is that, the Province Groningen's or the City Groningen's? Doesn't sound like it's the clubs.
Anyway how should I pronounce it (can you do a phonetic version
Guess 'golden' is pronounced as gold'n, you don't do e's before a final n do you?
Isn't their some song about the Martinitoren, is that the city's anthem?
It's the Province's anthem....and as the province *is* the city I don't think there's a separate anthem for Stad.
We swallow our 'e'-s and prolong our 'a'-s.
"Name a 47 letter Gronings dairy product...."
"Chocolaadevlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
or
"how does the Groningen alfabet go ?"
"A mien jong, B mien jong, C mien jong etc."
or
There's a Grunniger on holidays in London. He's looking out over the Thames at night when a Londoner, also enjoying the view says to him : "It's a quiet night"
To which the Grunniger responds :
"Kwait ook nait..."
or
the one with Samsonite cases....but that's too difficult to do in writing (Samsonite sounds like "they don't have them" in Grunnigs)
You'll be far into strange territory coming weekend
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A little lesson in Grunnigs : a song half in Grunnigs, with the translation after each sentence
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=EeebZLoR2QE
Hopefully it will fit your coming sunday evening mood
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=EeebZLoR2QE
Hopefully it will fit your coming sunday evening mood
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Yep the bus leaves bloody early. Glad it's not an early kick off. The only Grunnigs I'll hear is "Doorlop'n" by the local riot police. Anyway hope for a great match with us winning of course.
By the way do you remember Peter Houtman as a player? Koevermans plays nearly exactly like him.
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edit: I would also start making blues in Grunningen
By the way do you remember Peter Houtman as a player? Koevermans plays nearly exactly like him.
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edit: I would also start making blues in Grunningen
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jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:Yep the bus leaves bloody early. Glad it's not an early kick off. The only Grunnigs I'll hear is "Doorlop'n" by the local riot police.
Nah that will be "Doorlop'n, mien jong" of course
jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
By the way do you remember Peter Houtman as a player? Koevermans plays nearly exactly like him.
I do now he is considered to be a legened for de FC, but that was *way* before my time....I only know him as a Feyenoord player (and a great guy with good old fashioned voetbalhumor)
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- Post n°38
Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by SuperMario Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:38 pm
From dutch wiki
The summation is a mistake. Houtman played 3 times for Groningen as described above. Very funny carreer bouncing to and fro from Rotterdam to Goningen.
Amaxing record for Holland 7 goals in 8 matches.
Peter Houtman (Rotterdam, 4 juni 1957) is een Nederlands oud-voetballer.
Hij speelde onder meer voor Feyenoord en FC Groningen.
De spits kwam in zijn lange loopbaan gedurende vier periodes uit voor de Rotterdamse volksclub. Hij doorliep de jeugdopleiding van de Rotterdammers, voordat hij in het seizoen 1977/1978 verhuurd werd aan FC Groningen om ervaring op te doen.
Tijdens zijn debuut op 17 augustus 1977 tegen FC Vlaardingen scoorde hij meteen. In het hoge noorden maakte hij in 32 wedstrijden 23 doelpunten.
Het jaar erna keerde hij terug naar Rotterdam-Zuid, waar hij in 15 wedstrijden 5 doelpunten scoorde.
Het seizoen dat volgde ging hij bij Club Brugge aan de slag, waar hij in 15 wedstrijden voor 'Club' 3 doelpunten maakte.
In de twee seizoenen erna kwam hij in 40 wedstrijden 21 maal tot scoren bij FC Groningen, wat hem een transfer naar zijn grote liefde Feyenoord opleverde.
Het seizoen 1982/83 was ongetwijfeld het meest succesvolle uit de loopbaan van de sympathieke Rotterdammer, omdat hij Europees Topscorer werd met 30 doelpunten uit 32 wedstrijden. In de twee seizoenen die volgden scoorde hij in 64 duels voor de Rotterdammers 42 doelpunten, waarna hij in het seizoen 1985/86 weer naar Groningen trok.
In de volgende twee seizoenen in het Oosterpark scoorde hij in 45 wedstrijden 26 doelpunten.
Het buitenlandse avontuur lonkte en daarom vertrok de goaltjesdief in het seizoen 1987/88 naar Lissabon, waar hij bij Sporting Lissabon 3 doelpunten maakte in 19 wedstrijden.
Na een weinig succesvolle terugkeer bij Feyenoord, Houtman kwam nauwelijks aan spelen toe, van 1 seizoen ging hij weer aan de slag in Rotterdam, maar dan in West, bij Sparta.
In twee seizoenen bij Sparta scoorde hij in 76 wedstrijden 32 doelpunten.
In deze periode kwam hij tussentijds nog een seizoen, het seizoen 1991/92, uit bij ADO Den Haag, waar hij in 15 wedstrijden 2 doelpunten scoorde.
Het vreemde aan de loopbaan van Peter Houtman is dat hij ondanks zijn geweldige scorende vermogen, in 303 wedstrijden scoorde hij 165 maal, nauwelijks interlands gespeeld heeft. In de acht interlands die hij gespeeld heeft, kwam hij wel tot 7 doelpunten. Tegenwoordig is Peter Houtman zowel jeugdtrainer als stadionspeaker bij zijn grote liefde Feyenoord.
In totaal speelde Houtman ruim vijf jaar voor FC Groningen verdeeld over twee periodes. Hier scoorde hij 128 doelpunten verdeeld over 113 in de reguliere competitie, 10 in bekerwedstrijden en 5 Europacup-treffers), een clubrecord bij FC Groningen.
The summation is a mistake. Houtman played 3 times for Groningen as described above. Very funny carreer bouncing to and fro from Rotterdam to Goningen.
Amaxing record for Holland 7 goals in 8 matches.
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Bruins will probably not be fit in time for the Groningen match 
http://www.feyenoord.nl/pages/newsdetail.aspx?contentcode=20071122_bruins
http://www.feyenoord.nl/pages/newsdetail.aspx?contentcode=20071122_bruins
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Dutch Eredivisie as off 2009/2010 with 16 in stead of 18 clubs!
& new set up for playoffs.
http://www.ad.nl/sport/voetbal/article1841966.ece?nscategory=topStoryB
great stuff 3 times Feyenoord v Ajax each season.
& new set up for playoffs.
http://www.ad.nl/sport/voetbal/article1841966.ece?nscategory=topStoryB
great stuff 3 times Feyenoord v Ajax each season.
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I hate this new arrogantism by PSV which was only presented by Ajax in the past.
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Yeah copy the Scotland system....that is going to bring succes... 
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More top matches will be great for Dutch footy. Don't worry, you've got plenty of talent to be part of those 16. Would be good for Sparta too, would mean more cash for you guys too.
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Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:43 pm
listen my dutch friends i have a few questions to ask.
who is going to succeed Koeman at PSV?
is Alves that good? i.e will he be a RVN or a Kezman?
VVV whats their annual transfer budget?
Van Der Wiel that good?
is De Guzman ready for the jump to the EPL?
whatever happended to Sarpong/Gossens?
who is going to succeed Koeman at PSV?
is Alves that good? i.e will he be a RVN or a Kezman?
VVV whats their annual transfer budget?
Van Der Wiel that good?
is De Guzman ready for the jump to the EPL?
whatever happended to Sarpong/Gossens?
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Wouters until January; Vergoossen ad interim until the end of the season & thereafter HSV's current manager Stevens.EMPortuguese wrote:listen my dutch friends i have a few questions to ask.
who is going to succeed Koeman at PSV?
is Alves that good? i.e will he be a RVN or a Kezman?
VVV whats their annual transfer budget?
Van Der Wiel that good?
is De Guzman ready for the jump to the EPL?
whatever happended to Sarpong/Gossens?
Alves is very good. He'll succeed in a big league.
Haven't got a clue, probably something like 1M euro (depending on proceeds of selling players). Maybe even less. Their annual budget only is a few M.
Not convinced by him yet, better ask Ajax fans I saw him only v Feyenoord & in that match he was shite.
De Guzman is ready for the EPL
S&G seem to have problems fulfilling their promise; they hardly get a chance at Ajax. Expected most from Sarpong, but maybe he has the wrong mind-set.
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Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:58 pm
why dont they just keep Wouters until the end of season when Stevens arrives
are you sure about Alves? because a dutch scout for Chelsea dismissed Alves
i watched the Feyenoord vs Ajax match at De Kuip on Sentanta Sports what a match
Huntelaar looked not bothered like he wants to get out of Amsterdam ASAP
are you sure about Alves? because a dutch scout for Chelsea dismissed Alves
i watched the Feyenoord vs Ajax match at De Kuip on Sentanta Sports what a match
Huntelaar looked not bothered like he wants to get out of Amsterdam ASAP
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Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by Ricardo Jol Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:59 pm
EMPortuguese wrote:why dont they just keep Wouters until the end of season when Stevens arrives
are you sure about Alves? because a dutch scout for Chelsea dismissed Alves
i watched the Feyenoord vs Ajax match at De Kuip on Sentanta Sports what a match
Huntelaar looked not bothered like he wants to get out of Amsterdam ASAP
Wouters doesn't want to be the head coach... He only wants to train that's it!
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EMPortuguese wrote:why dont they just keep Wouters until the end of season when Stevens arrives
are you sure about Alves? because a dutch scout for Chelsea dismissed Alves
i watched the Feyenoord vs Ajax match at De Kuip on Sentanta Sports what a match
Huntelaar looked not bothered like he wants to get out of Amsterdam ASAP
De Visser also said that Villa is $h!t and Torres is the best striker.. we should have won against the c**ts..Personally I dont think De Guzman should stay another year, hope he is gonna play for Holland!
Shame Turkey has qualified..this means we can forget about signing Sahin..
What did you make of Bruins? Quality player huh?
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- Post n°49
Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:08 pm
Bruins? who is that? is he better than Roy Beerens?
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EMPortuguese wrote:Bruins? who is that? is he better than Roy Beerens?
He is better then Riquelme!! Or at least will be..he is half-Italian...and exactly the play Italy is missing!! If I were Donadoni...
Look at his vision!! He gives the ball at 0:17
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=dPMAOCAjsPI&feature=related
Beerens is not going to make it though
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Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:18 pm
how old is he?
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EMPortuguese wrote:how old is he?
20
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Bruins
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Siem de Jong > Bruins
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Who's been more impressive this season: Sahin or Bruins?
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- Post n°55
Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by Ricardo Jol Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:22 pm
EMPortuguese wrote:how old is he?
20 years...
He is indeed a very gifted player with a fine technique.. He just broke through so we have to wait he will arrive... Can he really cope with the pressure, isn't he too light weight? etc...
Fey is right he is better than Beerens... But then, Beerens will be just a good player for a team outside the top 4...
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Re: Dutch Eredivisie - matchday 12 (23/11 - 25/11)
by EM Seleção e Selecção Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:23 pm
that clip wasn't alot to go on
is he a starter for his team and is he under 21 international currently?
is he a starter for his team and is he under 21 international currently?
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jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
Not convinced by him yet, better ask Ajax fans I saw him only v Feyenoord & in that match he was shite.
De Guzman is ready for the EPL
Van der Wiel shows a lot of promise & De Guzman won't make it : serious attitude problem.
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Hlebanukkah wrote:Who's been more impressive this season: Sahin or Bruins?
Sahin by far.
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EMPortuguese wrote:that clip wasn't alot to go on
is he a starter for his team and is he under 21 international currently?
Aye, Siem de Jong got a call recently...cause Bruins was injured
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Zwarte Piet on weed wrote:jdg loves st. nicholas wrote:
Not convinced by him yet, better ask Ajax fans I saw him only v Feyenoord & in that match he was shite.
De Guzman is ready for the EPL
Van der Wiel shows a lot of promise & De Guzman won't make it : serious attitude problem.
Please don’t judge his potential in ONE game its not fair on him and yourself. Van der Wiel is one of the few current Ajax prodigies that I have the utmost faith in and can go far. Siem de Jong is another, he will be better than Sneijder I guarantee it.
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