Homenow i'd defo agree with that FG
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The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:14 am
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It's funny how far and how fast Berbatov's star has fallen.
Also looking forward to Tweedle justifying putting Bent higher than Torres in his top 10.
Also looking forward to Tweedle justifying putting Bent higher than Torres in his top 10.
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Roger Hunt wrote:It's funny how far and how fast Berbatov's star has fallen.
Also looking forward to Tweedle justifying putting Bent higher than Torres in his top 10.
Torres will be above Bent. But not much. Adeabayor will be above Torres
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I can see an argument for RVP and Berbatov being above Torres because he hasn't had a whole season yet. And Martins might be on the same level at the moment. But I'd only put Drogba and Rooney above him.
Adebayor
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Roger Hunt wrote:
Adebayor
What?
He's got two more EPL goals that Torres!
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Roger Hunt wrote:But I'd only put Drogba and Rooney above him.
You are the smart one Roger.
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:26 am
To be perfectly honest if it were judged on EPL peformances only, it would be too early to put Torres in and amongst others who have scored 50+ goals.
But the early indications are that he will be a massive hit, and become Liverpools most prolific striker since the departure of Owen. (i personally believe that Torres is a better all round player than Owen was at Liverpool, but perhaps not quite as convincing infront of goal, nevertheless he carves out so many opportunities, you can see him hitting 20-25 goals a season with relative ease.)
But the early indications are that he will be a massive hit, and become Liverpools most prolific striker since the departure of Owen. (i personally believe that Torres is a better all round player than Owen was at Liverpool, but perhaps not quite as convincing infront of goal, nevertheless he carves out so many opportunities, you can see him hitting 20-25 goals a season with relative ease.)
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Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:Roger Hunt wrote:
Adebayor
What?
He's got two more EPL goals that Torres!
Except
- less goals overall
- less goals overall in every season to date, and playing mostly in a tougher league
- Torres first year in the EPL
- we are apparently a less attacking side than you
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Roger Hunt wrote:Tweesus of Nazareth wrote:Roger Hunt wrote:
Adebayor
What?
He's got two more EPL goals that Torres!
Except
- less goals overall
- less goals overall in every season to date, and playing mostly in a tougher league
- Torres first year in the EPL
- we are apparently a less attacking side than you
I was kinda joking. The tougher league arguement is bollocks though. Practically every recent EPL striker that has gone to La Liga has been a success; not just a success even, but amazing.
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I was referring to Adebayor playing at Monaco and scoring 11 goals when Torres was scoring 20 in Spain.
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:33 am
Roger Hunt wrote:I was referring to Adebayor playing at Monaco and scoring 11 goals when Torres was scoring 20 in Spain.
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Roger Hunt wrote:I was referring to Adebayor playing at Monaco and scoring 11 goals when Torres was scoring 20 in Spain.
Well, he was younger and he fell out with the coach, so didn't get to start many games for the last half of the season.
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Football Genius wrote:Roger Hunt wrote:I was referring to Adebayor playing at Monaco and scoring 11 goals when Torres was scoring 20 in Spain.
Hilarious.
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Season-------Ade---------Torres
03/04---------8 -------------21
04/05---------11------------20
05/06---------1+4 ----------13
06/07----------12------------15
07/08----------7 -------------10
(in all comps)
And that ignores the 2 seasons previous when Torres was in the first team and Adebayor wasn't.
03/04---------8 -------------21
04/05---------11------------20
05/06---------1+4 ----------13
06/07----------12------------15
07/08----------7 -------------10
(in all comps)
And that ignores the 2 seasons previous when Torres was in the first team and Adebayor wasn't.
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:37 am
I know you love to hype up your players, and Adebayor is definately a talented striker, not least because of his size and ball control, but lets face it Torres is in another league in terms of penetration for a striker, the ace up your sleave is RVP, if hes ever fit enough.
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Roger Hunt wrote:Ade Torres
03/04 8 21
04/05 11 20
05/06 1+4 13
06/07 12 15
07/08 7 10
(in all comps)
And that ignores the 2 seasons previous when Torres was in the first team and Adebayor wasn't.
What are the first and second numbers then? At the moment its difficult to decipher
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:38 am
The first numbers are the year, the second Ade's scoring record and the 3rd Torres...
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Now edited (sorry)
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Football Genius wrote:I know you love to hype up your players, and Adebayor is definately a talented striker, not least because of his size and ball control, but lets face it Torres is in another league in terms of penetration for a striker, the ace up your sleave is RVP, if hes ever fit enough.
Adebayor could be the next Drogba. He's still only 23. sure, he ain't as good as Torres though. I was joking about that.
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Wow I didn't know our very own Ade was so talented
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Luis wrote:Wow I didn't know our very own Ade was so talented
Thats pathetic.
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Tweesus of Nazareth wrote: Adebayor could be the next Drogba. He's still only 23.
Quite true, Drogba is a late bloomer after all.
Torres could be the next Henry
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Roger Hunt wrote:Tweesus of Nazareth wrote: Adebayor could be the next Drogba. He's still only 23.
Quite true, Drogba is a late bloomer after all.
Torres Is the next Henry
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Most of the people in these lists are AM's - not wingers.
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What have we learned from this?
That some people don't read threads before replying to them?
And that Lennon is STILL criminally overrated and Solano is STILL criminally underrated?
Both. 
That some people don't read threads before replying to them?
*or midfield players that play on the right but you would probably not class them as proper wingers. e.g. Hleb.
And that Lennon is STILL criminally overrated and Solano is STILL criminally underrated?
Both.
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I think Solano is in decline now Kimbo, though still a quality player, as he has proved everywhere he's played and in every position.
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:42 pm
Solano isn't underrated, he is what he is.... a technically astute player, who was never good enough to play for a team challenging for he title, the fact hes considered in the top 10 still at his current age and performances i think is possibly overrated.
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Roger Hunt wrote:I think Solano is in decline now Kimbo, though still a quality player, as he has proved everywhere he's played and in every position.
He's definitely in decline, he has been for a few years, he's slow as an ox now, but he's still got a great brain and right foot. How some of the names mentioned can be named aheda of him is beyond me. Lennon? Park J who? Benayoun? Routledge? Pennant? And even Milner. It's ridiculous.
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Re: The Top 10 Right Wingers in the Premiership?
by Football Genius Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:49 pm
Milner, Lennon, Benayoun are all more IMO more effective players than Solano today.
Hes third in the pecking order at West Ham for christs sake behind Lungberg and Dyer.
Hes third in the pecking order at West Ham for christs sake behind Lungberg and Dyer.
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Football Genius wrote:Solano isn't underrated, he is what he is.... a technically astute player, who was never good enough to play for a team challenging for he title, the fact hes considered in the top 10 still at his current age and performances i think is possibly overrated.
You like stats, right FG? Well Nobbys stats aren't bad for a middle of the road player.
http://www.premiersoccerstats.com/Records.cfm?DOrderby=Ass&DYearby=All%20Seasons
9th highest EPL assister of all time. That's 117 in 284 games, plus 46 goals. And this season he has 5 assists and a goal in 6 games, far more productive than the more "fashionable" names you(and i) mentioned.
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