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The big 4's December

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The big 4's December

by Luis Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:18 pm

A thread nicked from RAWK, I think it will be handy to keep track of the big 4 in December:

Liverpool
Liverpool v Bolton 4-0
Reading v Liverpool 3-1
Liverpool v Man Utd 0-1
Liverpool v Portsmouth 4-1
Derby v Liverpool 1-2
Man City v Liverpool 0-0

Arsenal

Aston Villa v Arsenal 1-2
Newcastle v Arsenal 1-1
Middlesbrough v Arsenal 2-1
Arsenal v Chelsea 1-0
Arsenal v Tottenham 2-1
Portsmouth v Arsenal 0-0
Everton v Arsenal 1-4

Man Utd

Man Utd v Fulham 2-0
Man Utd v Derby 4-1
Liverpool v Man Utd 0-1
Man Utd v Everton 2-1
Sunderland v Man Utd 0-4
West Ham v Man Utd 2-1

Chelsea

Chelsea v West Ham 1-0
Chelsea v Sunderland 2-0
Arsenal v Chelsea 1-0
Blackburn v Chelsea 0-1
Chelsea v Aston Villa 4-4
Chelsea v Newcastle 2-1

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At the end we can compare how each team did and who looks the most likely to go on and win the title <Ale>

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:26 pm

I think this is a very tough month for Arsenal and Chelsea whilst the fixtures are slightly more favourable for Liverpool and United, however Liverpool have that make or break Marseille game sandwhiched between Reading and United and also have a carling cup away game at Chelsea which I'm sure a few first team players will play in.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Parks lives Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:27 pm

Anything less than 12 points from those 6 games would be unacceptable.

We should win the 4 games vs Sunderland, Derby, Fulham and Everton (seeing as the Everton game is at home.

Its the West Ham and Liverpool away games which are a lottery, both games could be win/lose or draw.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:37 pm

Spankeltoe wrote:Anything less than 12 points from those 6 games would be unacceptable.

We should win the 4 games vs Sunderland, Derby, Fulham and Everton (seeing as the Everton game is at home.

Its the West Ham and Liverpool away games which are a lottery, both games could be win/lose or draw.

I think you've finally clocked on to the rules of football <Ale>

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Re: The big 4's December

by Parks lives Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:39 pm

It means, that both games are alot less easier to predict. Most people would expect us to win the other 4 games, especially Fulham and Derby at home.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:41 pm

I reckon we'll beat Reading and Derby pretty comfortably, we should get a narrow win over Pompey at home, City away will be tough but our away form is excellent and they have to fall away some time, the United game is huge, I'm confident but we never tend to get luck against United

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Re: The big 4's December

by Tweesus Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:49 pm

Arsenal

Aston Villa v Arsenal 1-2
Newcastle v Arsenal
Middlesbrough v Arsenal
Arsenal v Chelsea
Arsenal v Tottenham
Portsmouth v Arsenal
Everton v Arsenal

Well, I didn't expect us to win on Saturday so that's a big bonus.

With the mess Newcastle are in at present, I'm hoping for a win on Wednesday, although a draw would be far from the end of the world. Likewise, although the boro game is away from home, if we're serious about the title this season, we should be winning games like these.

And then it gets REALLY tough.

Chelsea at home is a bit of a lottery, we could win, they could win - I just don't know.

Then there's Spurs at home - but a Spurs under a new coach who will want to prove he's the don. It could be tough.

Then there are IMO the two most difficult fixtures and both are very loseable.

I'm not confident. At the start of the month, I'd have been happy with 12 points from these games. Anything less than 8 will not be at all good whilst anything over 16 would be amazing.

Its so difficult to judge though

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:24 pm

United having the best december so far but Arsenal remain top

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Re: The big 4's December

by DS Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:00 pm

The point at the moment is to keep as close so if they slip up we can take advantage half a season to go.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Ricardo Jol Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:02 pm

I only count three top teams in England at the moment. Man U Arsenal and Chelsea.... One of those three will 100% sure win the EPL title...

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:30 pm

Ricardo Jol wrote:I only count three top teams in England at the moment. Man U Arsenal and Chelsea.... One of those three will 100% sure win the EPL title...

We're only a point behind Chelsea though? scratch

scratch

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Re: The big 4's December

by Deano Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:05 pm

Ricardo Jol wrote:I only count three top teams in England at the moment. Man U Arsenal and Chelsea.... One of those three will 100% sure win the EPL title...

It's utter nonsense to rule Liverpool out at this stage Ricardo...it's a four horse race for sure...There is no way you can include Chelsea in the title race without Liverpool and vice versa.

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Re: The big 4's December

by S4P Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:04 pm

So Arsenal have dropped 5 points from 5 games, Man Utd 0, Chelsea 3 and Liverpool 6 (all from 4 games). Fortunately we have 2 home games now, whereas our rivals all have 2 away so this is our chance to hopefully narrow the gap..

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Re: The big 4's December

by Sgoater1 Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:13 pm

I thought seen as we have been in the top 4 for every week of the season bar one week, i might as well include our December fixtures. 3 away games have generated 2 points but we have beaten Bolton at home and now face Blackburn and Liverpool at home. 5 points from 4 games isnt brilliant but seen as 3 of them were away its not bad.

Sat 01 Dec 15:00 Wigan Athletic A 1 : 1

Sun 09 Dec 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur A 1 : 2

Sat 15 Dec 15:00 Bolton Wanderers H 4 : 2

Sat 22 Dec 15:00 Aston Villa A 1 : 1

Thu 27 Dec 19:45 Blackburn Rovers H

Sun 30 Dec 16:00 Liverpool H

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Re: The big 4's December

by DS Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:49 am

Two tough games Goater I probably expect BB to take something out of you the way they played Chelsea was good , Liverpool is anyone guess though dont know what Liverpool team will appear.

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Re: The big 4's December

by S4P Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:54 pm

S4P wrote:So Arsenal have dropped 5 points from 5 games, Man Utd 0, Chelsea 3 and Liverpool 6 (all from 4 games). Fortunately we have 2 home games now, whereas our rivals all have 2 away so this is our chance to hopefully narrow the gap..

Man Utd 0
Chelsea 5
Liverpool 6
Arsenal 7

This really is turning out to be an excellent month for Man Utd.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:14 pm

Liverpool 10

Arsenal 14

United 15

Chelsea 13

Edit: oops United got 15!

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Re: The big 4's December

by Tweesus Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:33 pm

We had a better month than I anticipated in the end.

I said happy with 12 and 16 would be amazing, so a total of 14 I am more than happy with.

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Re: The big 4's December

by SuperMario Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:35 pm

Said beforehand I would sign for 14 points (we had a tough fixture list), so I'm happy especially because it included a win v Chelsea.

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Re: The big 4's December

by Sgoater1 Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:35 pm

December has been a tough month for us and we have fallen away a little bit. Im notsurprised cos Vila, Blackburn, Tottenham and Liverpool are all very good teams. We have got 7 points from our 6 games which isnt brilliant but at the same time we were unlucky not to draw at Spurs and that we didnt beat Blackburn, with those points we'd have had 10 points and would've been looking good. Still only 1 defeat against some good sides shows that we are becoming hard to beat.

Sat 01 Dec 15:00 Wigan Athletic A 1 : 1

Sun 09 Dec 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur A 1 : 2

Sat 15 Dec 15:00 Bolton Wanderers H 4 : 2

Sat 22 Dec 15:00 Aston Villa A 1 : 1

Thu 27 Dec 19:45 Blackburn Rovers H 2-2

Sun 30 Dec 16:00 Liverpool H 0-0

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Re: The big 4's December

by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:36 pm

Luis wrote:I reckon we'll beat Reading and Derby ( but not comfortably) pretty comfortably, we should get a narrow win over Pompey (not narrow at all!) at home, City away will be tough but our away form is excellent and they have to fall away some time (Not at the weekend it seemed), the United game is huge, I'm confident but we never tend to get luck against United (and we never will )

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Re: The big 4's December

by Parks lives Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:37 pm

Take it as a good lesson. <Ale>

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Re: The big 4's December

by Sheffield gunner Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:39 pm

2008: De Guzman's year wrote:Said beforehand I would sign for 14 points (we had a tough fixture list), so I'm happy especially because it included a win v Chelsea.

Yep, I agree. Plus, some people said that once Arsenal start losing they would struggle to pick their form up again. Since the defeat at Boro we have played seven games in all competitions, winning six and drawing one (at Fratton Park where Man Utd and Liverpool have also only picked up a point).

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Re: The big 4's December

by ads_afc Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:41 pm

I have to say this: it doesnt tend to be games against the rest of the Big 4 which decide the league. It's the tricky away games:

In this category I'd put Pompey, Everton, Newcastle, Blackburn

Arsenal had 3 of these this month and still took 5 points which is not a terrible return. I'm reasonably happy........

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