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    Post by Torrente Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:55 am

    Only 2 weeks until the most anticipated game of the season takes place. Christmas will definitely come early this year with this unbelievable present. How do people think this game will turn out?

    The stakes of this game will be heavily influenced by next week's fixtures. At the moment, Madrid has a 4-point lead but it could turn into 7 points if we beat Osasuna at home next week and Barcelona loses against Valencia away. Valencia may be in chaos, but they will always be a threat in the Mestalla so we can't rule out a Valencia victory. Of course, the dream scenario for the cules would be a win there and a loss or draw for us against Osasuna, so if they win el clasico they would jump ahead of us in the table. Personally I think that both teams will win their fixtures next week but we'll see.

    At the moment I would take a draw as the most likely scenario but a Barcelona revival in el clasico would hardly be a surprise either. It's what these games are there for. Last season both of our games against Barcelona helped to drive the team forward after bad patches.

    There will always be the danger of Eto'o who loves to score against us, Messi's magic and if Dinho wakes up he could give our defense a big nightmare. This is not even considering what the likes of Xavi or Iniesta would do.

    Barcelona's problems could emerge from the always unreliable Valdes, who made yet another blunder this week after an awful attempt to stop along range shot against Deportivo. It was a good strike, but suffice to say that any class goalie would have stopped it. Puyol has also looked like a bit of a liability at times and Zambrotta seems to get worse with every game.

    Barcelona has a lot to fear from us as well of course. Raul and Van Nistelrooy love scoring against Barcelona. Van Nistelrooy's case is certainly interesting given that he never scored against Liverpool but has scored 3 goals in 2 games against Barcelona. Robinho made Zambrotta his bitch in the Bernabeu last year and is on fire at the moment. If both Robinho and Messi perform to their abilities, we could be in for the best clasico in years.

    We could also experience some problems of course. Schuster will have to play Heinze as LB since the prospect of Marcelo going up against Messi at this stage is frightning. Although Heinze has been on great form he's been injured recently and lacks pace. Messi could eat him for breakfast with his sprints. Pepe has also looked very strong but would he be ready to face an in-form Eto'o? Guti is always a liability due to his inconsistency and Diarra's performances have been awful lately. I can see him giving Messi and Eto'o assists in our penalty area at this point.
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    Post by fcb Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:02 am

    Can't wait, and I really hope they re-schedule to Friday as is being rumoured...on the 22nd and 23rd I'm travelling and so I'll miss the match if they don't change the date Sad

    Fitness situation is still a bit unclear for us. Etoo, Deco, and Ronaldinho looked decent today, and all will probably start against Stuttgart on Wednesday so hopefully they are 100% by the time the big one rolls around.
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    Post by Fey Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:04 am

    0-3 Madrid Ale
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:41 am

    let's see if robinho will keep the standard or disappear like he does against big teams when playing for brazil.
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    Post by Ä Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:02 am

    Schuster vs the Lama

    a no-brainer
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    Post by AsianBoy Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:51 am

    Torrente wrote: Guti is always a liability due to his inconsistency and Diarra's performances have been awful lately.
    since Guti is a liable player,how come you referred to this inconsisitency?
    IMHO,is it a bit paradoxial?
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    Post by fcb Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:43 pm

    Interesting stat:
    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/real_madrid/es/desarrollo/1066785.html


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    Post by Jaime Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:08 pm

    Hopefully both teams decide to really go for it. Guti can be inconsistent but he generally is up for matches against Barcelona. If I were Schuster, I'd consider a three man midfield of Gago-Guti-Baptista. Baptista can add a little muscle that Diarra would, in theory, provide. I think we'll need Robinho to have a big game and I think Ruud will also be key; he is so prolific away from the Bernabeu especially.

    Another key will be Marcelo v Messi if Schuster decides to go with the Brasilian at left back. I'm really concerned that Messi is going to have acres of space with Marcelo regularly being caught out of position. That will only suck Cannavaro or Pepe out of the center leaving Eto'o in a lot of 1 v 1 situations.

    At least there is no Helguera to screw things up this year. ok

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    Post by golsud Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:41 pm

    I don't think we have anything to fear from Madriz (apart from the referee of course). A mediocre team playing $h!t football but getting lucky results or grinding out 1-0's. Hopefully after a good beating from us so "se os bajan los humos".

    Can't wait to have a few beers and sing antimadridista songs <Ale> <Ale>

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    Post by Super Progress Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:56 pm

    Really looking forward to this game because if everything goes our way next week then we cant afford to lose. As Jaime suggested i would also play a midfield of gago-guti-baptista. hopefully they will play zambrotta on right back who doesnt look all that great allthough he could show his true level in this game. im not really afraid ronaldinho so we can focus on messi and if eto is fit then him too. allthough normally they key is cut of their midfield or outmuscle them and hit them on the counter.
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    Post by TM Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:15 pm

    golsud wrote:I don't think we have anything to fear from Madriz (apart from the referee of course). A mediocre team playing $h!t football but getting lucky results or grinding out 1-0's. Hopefully after a good beating from us so "se os bajan los humos".

    Can't wait to have a few beers and sing antimadridista songs <Ale> <Ale>

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    TU MADRE ES UN PUTA, FIGO MUERETE, TU MADRE ES UN PUTA, FIGO MUERETE LA LA LA LA LAAAA FIGOOOOO MUERETEEEE!!

    Wow. Your really going to look like a clown after we go 10 points clear before the winter break Smile
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    Post by Effenberg Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:45 pm

    Fey, could you get rid of the titty picture please. I would like to be able to surf the forum at work.

    Thanks.
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    Post by fcb Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:27 am

    It's official, I'm going to miss El Clasico Sad Sad Sad

    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/otras/es/desarrollo/1067061.html
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:52 am

    Sorry mate, if it's the 22nd I'll miss it too because of travel plans. Fingers crossed for the 23rd. ok
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    Post by golsud Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:37 pm

    Unlucky mates. The only plan I have for that day is go to a pub near the Camp Nou 3 hours before the kick off Biggrin
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:33 pm

    a 0-0 draw will do perfectly
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:34 pm

    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:a 0-0 draw will do perfectly

    Why not 5-5 ?

    The neutrals want to be entertained !
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    Post by Black Magic Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:36 pm

    Angelslammer wrote:
    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:a 0-0 draw will do perfectly

    Why not 5-5 ?

    The neutrals want to be entertained !

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    Post by Black Magic Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:37 pm

    Still haven't seen RVN's goal this week, anyone got a link?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:40 pm

    Black Magic wrote:Still haven't seen RVN's goal this week, anyone got a link?
    http://www.rojadirecta.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=31881&sid=c16c1dafa906bdc9389216cfeaf79999


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    Post by Black Magic Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:44 pm

    The-Frankinsense-Tavern wrote:
    Black Magic wrote:Still haven't seen RVN's goal this week, anyone got a link?
    http://www.rojadirecta.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=31881&sid=c16c1dafa906bdc9389216cfeaf79999


    despite your efforts are sarcasm

    ???
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:20 pm

    ALL-TIME RESULTS OF BARCELONA-REAL MADRID

    1928-29 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1929-30 F.C. Barcelona 1 4 Real Madrid C.F.
    1930-31 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
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    1932-33 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1933-34 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1934-35 F.C. Barcelona 5 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1935-36 F.C. Barcelona 0 3 Real Madrid C.F.
    1939-40 F.C. Barcelona 0 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1940-41 F.C. Barcelona 3 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1941-42 F.C. Barcelona 0 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1942-43 F.C. Barcelona 5 5 Real Madrid C.F.
    1943-44 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1944-45 F.C. Barcelona 5 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1945-46 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1946-47 F.C. Barcelona 3 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1947-48 F.C. Barcelona 4 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1948-49 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1949-50 F.C. Barcelona 2 3 Real Madrid C.F.
    1950-51 F.C. Barcelona 7 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1951-52 F.C. Barcelona 4 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1952-53 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1953-54 F.C. Barcelona 5 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1954-55 F.C. Barcelona 2 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1955-56 F.C. Barcelona 2 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1956-57 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1957-58 F.C. Barcelona 0 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1958-59 F.C. Barcelona 4 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1959-60 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1960-61 F.C. Barcelona 3 5 Real Madrid C.F.
    1961-62 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1962-63 F.C. Barcelona 1 5 Real Madrid C.F.
    1963-64 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1964-65 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1965-66 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1966-67 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1967-68 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1968-69 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1969-70 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1970-71 F.C. Barcelona 0 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1971-72 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1972-73 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1973-74 F.C. Barcelona 0 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1974-75 F.C. Barcelona 0 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1975-76 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1976-77 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1977-78 F.C. Barcelona 2 3 Real Madrid C.F.
    1978-79 F.C. Barcelona 2 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1979-80 F.C. Barcelona 0 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1980-81 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1981-82 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1982-83 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1983-84 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1984-85 F.C. Barcelona 3 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1985-86 F.C. Barcelona 2 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1986-87 F.C. Barcelona 3 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    1987-88 F.C. Barcelona 2 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1988-89 F.C. Barcelona 0 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1989-90 F.C. Barcelona 3 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1990-91 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1991-92 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1992-93 F.C. Barcelona 2 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    1993-94 F.C. Barcelona 5 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1994-95 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1995-96 F.C. Barcelona 3 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1996-97 F.C. Barcelona 1 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1997-98 F.C. Barcelona 3 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1998-99 F.C. Barcelona 3 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    1999-00 F.C. Barcelona 2 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    2000-01 F.C. Barcelona 2 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    2001-02 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    2002-03 F.C. Barcelona 0 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    2003-04 F.C. Barcelona 1 2 Real Madrid C.F.
    2004-05 F.C. Barcelona 3 0 Real Madrid C.F.
    2005-06 F.C. Barcelona 1 1 Real Madrid C.F.
    2006-07 F.C. Barcelona 3 3 Real Madrid C.F.
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:22 pm

    93-94 must have been pretty painful!
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:24 pm

    It was. Good thing we beat them 5-0 in the Bernabeu the following season.
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    Post by TM Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:24 pm

    Meh, we bet them 5-0 at the Bernbeu...
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:34 pm

    Nice recap of last year's 3-3 draw:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbAfbTqbzVU&feature=related
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    Post by Fey Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:36 pm

    It's really time for a 0-3 again..it's been a while! If Madrid wins this, they are already champions. Ale
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:39 pm

    The reverse fixture in the 73/74 season was the best Ale
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:40 pm

    All I want for Xmas is TS wrote:It's really time for a 0-3 again..it's been a while! If Madrid wins this, they are already champions. Ale

    What is easily overlooked is that this week is Valencia-Barcelona. It's an understatement that Barcelona are poor on the road and Valencia usually give them a good battle anyhow. I'd say it is a good possibility that Barcelona will drop points this weekend. Meanwhile, we face Osasuna in the Bernabeu. If Barcelona are down 6 or 7 points going into the FCB-RMA match then they will be under a lot of pressure not to fall further behind.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:41 pm

    johan the baptist wrote:The reverse fixture in the 73/74 season was the best Ale

    Biggrin Salute

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