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    Theo's not where I want him

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    Post by Rasiak-9 Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:08 pm

    Stoke are apparently going to try and get him back on loan - but i reckon we should go for it - we'd welcome Theo back with open arms to be honest and seeing as he's played here before i would have thought we'd have some appeal for the boy - i think his gf still lives down here too.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:14 pm

    Stoke! Seriously? Have Stoke ever had a striker who isn't six foot plus, strong and good in the air? Walcott seems the exact opposite of a typical Stoke player.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:05 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Stoke! Seriously? Have Stoke ever had a striker who isn't six foot plus, strong and good in the air? Walcott seems the exact opposite of a typical Stoke player.

    Might do a good job playing off some of those brutes.

    I'll stick my neck out and say that if he has a career like Darius Vassell's then he'll have made the most of his attributes.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:44 pm

    Some of you still don't get it - he wasn't signed for footballing reasons!

    Wenger just wanted to see a fresh-faced 16 year old boy running around in a sports kit.
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    Post by Deano Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:46 pm

    Rasiak-9 wrote:Stoke are apparently going to try and get him back on loan - but i reckon we should go for it - we'd welcome Theo back with open arms to be honest and seeing as he's played here before i would have thought we'd have some appeal for the boy - i think his gf still lives down here too.

    Stoke??

    A Premiership club will come in for him. I'm going to see if I can find anything from the West Ham ITK side...someone will have said if there is anything in it.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:53 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Some of you still don't get it - he wasn't signed for footballing reasons!

    Wenger just wanted to see a fresh-faced 16 year old boy running around in a sports kit.

    No - he signed him at a deliberately expensive price just so he could have an excuse not to sign an Englander ever again when this whole sorry saga is over.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:01 pm

    Yup, Stoke are trying their luck. I was talking on the Saints forums about this - if they're going to have a go then why shouldn't we?

    However, I believe that Wenger wants him to go to another Prem club, and secondly that a premiership club will come in for him, although having said that - most Premiership clubs aren't short of strikers and i think that Wenger will only send him out on loan to a club that he's certain to get regularly games in a centre-forward position.
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    Post by Deano Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:03 pm

    Apparently, Curbishley is interested in him. HOWEVER, Wenger may not send him to us, for the simple fact that having Ashton, Bellamy and Cole...Walcott would be nothing but cover.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:09 pm

    When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:10 pm

    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:26 am

    Honourable C*nt™ wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Some of you still don't get it - he wasn't signed for footballing reasons!

    Wenger just wanted to see a fresh-faced 16 year old boy running around in a sports kit.

    No - he signed him at a deliberately expensive price just so he could have an excuse not to sign an Englander ever again when this whole sorry saga is over.

    Exactly.
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    Post by fcb Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:53 am

    BBC's transfer column says Liverpool made a cheeky effort to take Walcott on loan, but that was rejected. Man. City are now interested.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:00 am

    We lack squad depth.

    I can't see why we'd want to exacerbate the problem further.
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    Post by L.r.d Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:16 am

    kas wrote:BBC's transfer column says Liverpool made a cheeky effort to take Walcott on loan, but that was rejected. Man. City are now interested.

    Doh Sven not again
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    Post by 110% Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:20 am

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).

    I think his point is about age. James beatie fits you description above and he's still turned out to be $h!t.

    I think he might actually be better off not playing regualrly right now, look at owen, del pierro, raul, ronaldo etc. All scoring for fun and playin in the main team at a young age. All knackered at the times they should have been reaching their peaks. I fear rooney will go that way as well.

    He has been playing badly but he must have been a stand-out talent at some point. Now the question is whether he goes the pennant way, boozing, changing clubs regularly, etc or he knuckles down and works hard and reaslies at least some of the potential he might have shown. He might not end up being the next henry, but if he does half as well he will be a success.
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    Post by L.r.d Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:23 am

    110% wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).

    I think his point is about age. James beatie fits you description above and he's still turned out to be $h!t.

    I think he might actually be better off not playing regualrly right now, look at owen, del pierro, raul, ronaldo etc. All scoring for fun and playin in the main team at a young age. All knackered at the times they should have been reaching their peaks. I fear HOPE rooney will go that way as well.
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:24 am

    110% wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).

    I think his point is about age. James beatie fits you description above and he's still turned out to be $h!t.

    I think he might actually be better off not playing regualrly right now, look at owen, del pierro, raul, ronaldo etc. All scoring for fun and playin in the main team at a young age. All knackered at the times they should have been reaching their peaks. I fear rooney will go that way as well.

    He has been playing badly but he must have been a stand-out talent at some point. Now the question is whether he goes the pennant way, boozing, changing clubs regularly, etc or he knuckles down and works hard and reaslies at least some of the potential he might have shown. He might not end up being the next henry, but if he does half as well he will be a success.

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    Post by fcb Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:11 pm

    110% wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).

    I think his point is about age. James beatie fits you description above and he's still turned out to be $h!t.

    I think he might actually be better off not playing regualrly right now, look at owen, del pierro, raul, ronaldo etc. All scoring for fun and playin in the main team at a young age. All knackered at the times they should have been reaching their peaks. I fear rooney will go that way as well.

    He has been playing badly but he must have been a stand-out talent at some point. Now the question is whether he goes the pennant way, boozing, changing clubs regularly, etc or he knuckles down and works hard and reaslies at least some of the potential he might have shown. He might not end up being the next henry, but if he does half as well he will be a success.

    That's how football is going nowadays though - players are breaking through at a younger age, meaning their careers end sooner because of fatigue/injuries, or just a lack of hunger to continue trying to meet the demands of top-level football these days. Speaking from Barça's perspective, Messi will go the same way, and unfortunately so will Bojan if he continues at the rate he has this season.
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    Post by 110% Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:26 pm

    L r d wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:When Shearer left Southampton at the age of 22 he had a scoring record of 23 goals in 118 games. People shouldn't be writing Theo off, despite his foolish career move to l'Arse. <Ale>

    Shearer was 6ft+, could head and strike a ball very well (as well as having a bit of pace back then).

    I think his point is about age. James beatie fits you description above and he's still turned out to be $h!t.

    I think he might actually be better off not playing regualrly right now, look at owen, del pierro, raul, ronaldo etc. All scoring for fun and playin in the main team at a young age. All knackered at the times they should have been reaching their peaks. I fear HOPE rooney will go that way as well.

    strange that you hope that? since he plays for manu? lol!
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    Post by Allez les rouges Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:38 pm

    Tweedle wrote:We lack squad depth.

    I can't see why we'd want to exacerbate the problem further.

    I don't hugely buy this squad depth argument, given that we have two full teams, the second of which is a match for most when playing well. The wider point is that, when the Sky commentator said on Tuesday "Walcott has been disappointing this evening", as the supporter next to me said "He's been disappointing for two YEARS!"; at the moment he is stagnating, and disappointing when he does play, played out of position or no. Playing often in his preferred position for a team that suits is current level can only help him – and conceivably, us in the long run.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:07 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:We lack squad depth.

    I can't see why we'd want to exacerbate the problem further.

    I don't hugely buy this squad depth argument
    , given that we have two full teams, the second of which is a match for most when playing well. The wider point is that, when the Sky commentator said on Tuesday "Walcott has been disappointing this evening", as the supporter next to me said "He's been disappointing for two YEARS!"; at the moment he is stagnating, and disappointing when he does play, played out of position or no. Playing often in his preferred position for a team that suits is current level can only help him – and conceivably, us in the long run.

    ok

    Van persie has hardly played this season( that's like manu missing someone like rooney), gallas missed a lot of games at the start of the season, rosicky is never fit, toure is at the acon etc

    we are still joint top of the league despite using those average( Cr@p) squad players, so maybe they are good enough to be in the squad.

    Yes we can do with a player or two, but that is true for all the other teams. Manu are seen as the most complete team but who replaces evra when he's injured? probably o'shea- that's a huge drop in quality. who replaces rio? brown - again huge drop in quality
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:19 pm

    Pique replaces Rio .. and he has been good.
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    Post by DS Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:27 pm

    Agree with Evra statement though but we had Silvestre as his backup who is a decent LB.


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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:47 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Van persie has hardly played this season( that's like manu missing someone like rooney), gallas missed a lot of games at the start of the season, rosicky is never fit, toure is at the acon etc

    Getting the excuses in early? And Van Persie is not like Man U missing Rooney - Rooney's a better, more consistent, more proven player for a start. And he's been injured twice already this season...

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