Rio or Terry

BM wrote:

110% wrote:

BM wrote:

110% wrote:

Dark Savante wrote:I dont live in England for a start , you say you have been watching them following them , didnt you noticed Gerrard didnt like to be played out wide , oh my best position is in the middle comments I seem to remember.

So you say Keane Viera didnt score long yarders.

i said he prefers playing in the centre, but he doesn't sulk, on the ptich he gets on with it.

you say you never noticed him and you are a manu fan. I remember him scoring a great goal against manu from a long way, something whihc i have never seen keane or vieira do considering their alleged greatness as central midfielders (their shooting wasn't all that great was it). Defensively gerrard is not as strong as keane but offensively he's much stronger. They each have their pros and cons

That's absolute bollocks, you don't have to go into Cr@p like that just to prove a point. Yes, Gerrard has scored a lot of great long distance goals. But to simply discount the beauty's Vieira and Keano scored is just ridiculous.

I haven't read any of your comments on this thread apart from this one which I happened to catch a hold of. Judging from the bullshit you've spewed, I'm glad I haven't read the rest of your posts!

maybe if you'd read the rest you might actually understand the context in which the little bit of a sentence you read was written. So try reading before writing bullshit yourself.

DS said he hardly noticed gerrard on the pitch against keane or vieira, so I replied that I remember him clearly scoring a screamer against manu for a start, kind of memorable, then I said it's something which I noticed keane and vieira don't do. Just trying to play on his words. The point was about DS not noticing gerrard on the pitch. I didn't notice keane or vieira scoring great goals, but I can acknowledge that they were great players. So it's not only about what you notice but what you understand about the game. Then I've actually said they each have their own strengths and weaknesses, for example keane being stronger defensively. So I've not discounted the goals orwhatever keane or vieira have scored. Reading comes first, then if you still want to write bullshit go ahead.

I know what you meant mate. Obviously your brain slipped into a coma when Vieira scored the screamer at Highbury against Man Utd? Or at Stamford bridge against Chelsea? Just because Gerrard scored a screamer against the Mancs (which wasn't even the best goal in the game) once and the Scousers furiously repeat it endlessly to get a little recognition for a man that constantly bottles it in the Premiership blockbusters doesn't mean, at any second he wasn't Keano and Paddy's bitch time and time again.

so you missed the point again

go back and read it again, and this time do it slower, i tried to make it easy for you, now I'll treat you like a special student
- the other poster mentioned he never noticed gerrard
- I pointed out the goal as somehting he might have noticed
which was the point of mentioning it
- funnily you even seem to remember the game as you said it wasn't the best goal scored, so obviously you noticed it

That was the main point, the additional one was that all midfielders have different qualities and that was one in which gerrard is superior ro keane and vieira, and a noticeable one.

oh yeah and there's some bits about liverpool having inferior players to manu and arsenal over the years, but yeah don't reading that part. You can make cracks about comas etc, but your functioning brain doesn't seem to be working and you are at top speed.

110% wrote:

BM wrote:

110% wrote:

BM wrote:

110% wrote:

Dark Savante wrote:I dont live in England for a start , you say you have been watching them following them , didnt you noticed Gerrard didnt like to be played out wide , oh my best position is in the middle comments I seem to remember.

So you say Keane Viera didnt score long yarders.

i said he prefers playing in the centre, but he doesn't sulk, on the ptich he gets on with it.

you say you never noticed him and you are a manu fan. I remember him scoring a great goal against manu from a long way, something whihc i have never seen keane or vieira do considering their alleged greatness as central midfielders (their shooting wasn't all that great was it). Defensively gerrard is not as strong as keane but offensively he's much stronger. They each have their pros and cons

That's absolute bollocks, you don't have to go into Cr@p like that just to prove a point. Yes, Gerrard has scored a lot of great long distance goals. But to simply discount the beauty's Vieira and Keano scored is just ridiculous.

I haven't read any of your comments on this thread apart from this one which I happened to catch a hold of. Judging from the bullshit you've spewed, I'm glad I haven't read the rest of your posts!

maybe if you'd read the rest you might actually understand the context in which the little bit of a sentence you read was written. So try reading before writing bullshit yourself.

DS said he hardly noticed gerrard on the pitch against keane or vieira, so I replied that I remember him clearly scoring a screamer against manu for a start, kind of memorable, then I said it's something which I noticed keane and vieira don't do. Just trying to play on his words. The point was about DS not noticing gerrard on the pitch. I didn't notice keane or vieira scoring great goals, but I can acknowledge that they were great players. So it's not only about what you notice but what you understand about the game. Then I've actually said they each have their own strengths and weaknesses, for example keane being stronger defensively. So I've not discounted the goals orwhatever keane or vieira have scored. Reading comes first, then if you still want to write bullshit go ahead.

I know what you meant mate. Obviously your brain slipped into a coma when Vieira scored the screamer at Highbury against Man Utd? Or at Stamford bridge against Chelsea? Just because Gerrard scored a screamer against the Mancs (which wasn't even the best goal in the game) once and the Scousers furiously repeat it endlessly to get a little recognition for a man that constantly bottles it in the Premiership blockbusters doesn't mean, at any second he wasn't Keano and Paddy's bitch time and time again.

so you missed the point again

go back and read it again, and this time do it slower, i tried to make it easy for you, now I'll treat you like a special student
- the other poster mentioned he never noticed gerrard
- I pointed out the goal as somehting he might have noticed
which was the point of mentioning it
- funnily you even seem to remember the game as you said it wasn't the best goal scored, so obviously you noticed it

That was the main point, the additional one was that all midfielders have different qualities and that was one in which gerrard is superior ro keane and vieira, and a noticeable one.

oh yeah and there's some bits about liverpool having inferior players to manu and arsenal over the years, but yeah don't reading that part. You can make cracks about comas etc, but your functioning brain doesn't seem to be working and you are at top speed.

No Doofus! I'm not arguing about the fact that Gerrard did some great things, occasionally. All I was correcting was your misnomer that Keano and Vieira never scored great goals in those fixtures, something that is factually incorrect, which I pointed out to you in my last post.

In conclusion, I was debating this comment you said a few posts ago:

something whihc i have never seen keane or vieira do considering their alleged greatness as central midfielders

This comment only, not at any moment did I disagree with you on the Gerrard front, nor did I try and deny that he scored a few great goals in those games. Unlike you, who has no recollection of the aforementioned players doing the exact same things in equally as important games for their respective games.

Basically all I was doing was correcting your mistake.

Have you ever managed anything in life , do you have any managing experience , job experience , usually top level managers are very quiet calm then their operational level managers or its more evident as we go down the hierarchy , have you ever encountered people who look industrious but are usually useless and dont come to me football is different.


I havent dropped anything scoring a screamer doesnt mean not getting bossed , Murphy used to get some remember.

So you say Terry organizes Rio but Vidic who is a very dominant organizer lets Rio do that job for just the f@ck of it evidently or some friendly contract there , get real you only do a job because you are good and if you are not if you are found out very quickly (that is if you arent the boss yourself) no answer to Carvalho organizing Chelsea defence ?

So you listen to what Terry says in a match or does he tell later personally what he is saying in the game as you say he is telling Rio to mark and etc ? for all he must be spouting nothing useful , Rio following his orders get real man the sooner the better.

So you think Gerrard leads by attitude? desire? he may influnence some game but is he a big influence ? sorry dont agree. He got no presence.


I only meant Man Utd against Milan didnt have any leader on the pitch and if you consider Scholes one then its different thats where Rio was a miss.

I dont think Gerrard is a bad captain I dont think he is a good one either ,seriously would Terry be there on his performances for last 2 seasons and people want him captain so he plays every game where this is an area England can probably even export players.


Once again its going in circles though I would love to debate this in person.