Why is Trezeguet so under rated by France??

This always surprises me... this guy is the most prolific french striker I have seen since Papin! His consistency in scoring for club is just amazing, and even in a season when he is topping Serie A scoring charts, he is not even in the Frech squad.

Even for France, he has a better goals per game ratio than any other striker around.... only Henry comes close.

Player _________ Goals _______ Games _______ Goals per game
1 Trezeguet _____ 34 _________ 70 _________ 0.49
2 Henry ________ 44 _________ 97 _________ 0.45
3 Benzema _______ 3 _________ 8 __________ 0.38
4 Wiltord ________ 26 _________ 92 _________ 0.28
5 Cisse __________ 9 _________ 35 _________ 0.26
6 Anelka ________ 11 _________ 43 _________ 0.26
7 Govou _________ 7 _________ 30 _________ 0.23
8 Saha __________ 4 _________ 18 _________ 0.22

This is just silly... a quality striker just wasted!! Some of France's games have been screaming for a quality finisher, and yet they don't even play him anymore. Is this just a personal agenda by Domenech, or does Treze really does not suit his tactics??

Whatever it maybe his days of been a international is ticking, didn't he have a falling out with Domenech?

Domenech doesn't like him, no idea why.
As you say it is stupid, for few can score more than trezigol!
true he does little outside of the box but as the focal point of an attack he is awesome!
It is probably because Domenech is an utter twat and trez is not only cool but a nice guy too.
I dont like Domenech.

You mean, he is not good anymore? But this season, he is the top scorer of Serie A so far.... infact he is probably the most in form French striker this season, followed by Anelka and Benzema.

Yeah, he and Domenech do not get along.... but it surely will be silly to leave out your best finisher!! I think Domenech is driving Treze towards announcing an early retirement, and Treze is waiting for the coach to change... this is so silly. Most nations would kill to have a finisher of this quality, Italy included!

Nummer 14 wrote:Whatever it maybe his days of been a international is ticking, didn't he have a falling out with Domenech?

bluenine wrote:You mean, he is not good anymore? But this season, he is the top scorer of Serie A so far.... infact he is probably the most in form French striker this season, followed by Anelka and Benzema.

Yeah, he and Domenech do not get along.... but it surely will be silly to leave out your best finisher!! I think Domenech is driving Treze towards announcing an early retirement, and Treze is waiting for the coach to change... this is so silly. Most nations would kill to have a finisher of this quality, Italy included!

Nummer 14 wrote:Whatever it maybe his days of been a international is ticking, didn't he have a falling out with Domenech?

From the outside IMO Domenech may want to give Benzema & Ben Afra a chance, plus Henry these days for France is getting the goals so he stays plus Anelka is back to his best. A Shame Treze is not in his plans at this moment in time but France are playing England soon so he may get that chance ..

i do admire your pride bluey, having a picture of a juve legend as your avatar!
you are a secret zebras fan really arnt you?

Baggio did not belong to any club, but its a nice pic - the nerazzurri colours suit him

Zebra fan, please! I just had lunch!

LordAnger wrote:i do admire your pride bluey, having a picture of a juve legend as your avatar!
you are a secret zebras fan really arnt you?

He is being left out for non footballing reasons, but i don't rate him that highly anyway. I believe most of the strikers on that list are better players than him except maybe cisse and govou i guess wiltord also but the last two can play different positions, he is a goalscorer but this doesn't always tell the whole story. Plus some of them stats are a little misleading.
He critised Domench so thats the end of his french career.

Personally, I think he is the best goalscorer in the above list... the stats only prove what we have seen day in day out in Serie A for years. Quite frankly, he would make the Italian starting XI, or Argentina's, or even Brazilian.

Domenech is just being stupid and immature as always.

Its good for Italy if he does not play tho... he always does well against Italy, and understands the system well.

L r d wrote:He is being left out for non footballing reasons, but i don't rate him that highly anyway. I believe most of the strikers on that list are better players than him except maybe cisse and govou i guess wiltord also but the last two can play different positions, he is a goalscorer but this doesn't always tell the whole story. Plus some of them stats are a little misleading.
He critised Domench so thats the end of his french career.

Is this just a personal agenda by Domenech, or does Treze really does not suit his tactics??

Trezeguet: "Contrary to what he (Domenech) said in the past, that he judges people on their club performances, he seems to choose players based on his system of play.

"It's clear I don't figure among the three or four premier French strikers. From that, what I want to do now is finish the season well with my club, finish in the top four places in Serie A.

"Playing in Euro 2008? I am not so sure about that"

Very mature attitude, its quite refreshing.

Nummer 14 wrote:

Is this just a personal agenda by Domenech, or does Treze really does not suit his tactics??

Trezeguet: "Contrary to what he (Domenech) said in the past, that he judges people on their club performances, he seems to choose players based on his system of play.

"It's clear I don't figure among the three or four premier French strikers. From that, what I want to do now is finish the season well with my club, finish in the top four places in Serie A.

"Playing in Euro 2008? I am not so sure about that"

And Baggio had his best years at Juventus

LordAnger wrote:i do admire your pride bluey, having a picture of a juve legend as your avatar!
you are a secret zebras fan really arnt you?

He's like RVN.

Utd thought RVN was expendable, and its the same with France.

He's a great goalscorer but France's other strikers fit better into the teams style than Trezerguet does.

Sometimes its about the team and not the individual.

Like I wrote on the Juventus string, Domenech is putting his personal prejudices & bias ahead of the good for the national side. He has often proved himself to be a jerk in the past & its only natural that he will continue.

Simple fact is that for sure the other strikers mentioned in the string above are good but then even after that ommitting Trez completely is beyond logic. And lets give it guys...his logic for doing the same is pathetic.

What is loser he is. France could do without him

Tweedle wrote:He's like RVN.

Utd thought RVN was expendable, and its the same with France.

He's a great goalscorer but France's other strikers fit better into the teams style than Trezerguet does.

Sometimes its about the team and not the individual.

I agree to an extent, also the fact that RvN was left out in the Dutch squad due personal reasons. But it is never a bad thing just to have him in the squad as a plan B.

Did you not see him in the WC. I saw one match (Angola I think) where he missed sitter after sitter. It was horrible watching He adds nothing else other than finishing.

Why do people judge players based on 1 game? This is so silly.

I have seen Treze score great goals with an amazing frequency for years now... he is one of the best finishers in business, and you need that kind of players. IMO Treze is right up there with Crespo, Vieri, RVN, Batistuta, Toni, & the like...

shazlx wrote:Did you not see him in the WC. I saw one match (Angola I think) where he missed sitter after sitter. It was horrible watching He adds nothing else other than finishing.

I don't know if he is under rated.You're talking about France...Like Italy and Brazil we have a lot of great forwards..If one of them can't score during two or three games so the fans want to see someone else.

Perso i always rated him.A shame there's a rivalry between him and Domenech.Domenech's a very strange guy with a lot of pride and Trezeguet told him many times to f@ck off.I don't think Trezeguet will be in our team for the euro.He said today in Lequipe that he thinks at the moment he isn't even he 3rd or 4th choice in attack.

We have Henry,Cisse,Benzema,Menez,Govou ect ect...

bluenine wrote:Why do people judge players based on 1 game? This is so silly.

shazlx wrote:Did you not see him in the WC. I saw one match (Angola I think) where he missed sitter after sitter. It was horrible watching He adds nothing else other than finishing.

I know

Arnaud loves Catherine wrote:I don't know if he is under rated.You're talking about France...Like Italy and Brazil we have a lot of great forwards..If one of them can't score during two or three games so the fans want to see someone else.

Perso i always rated him.A shame there's a rivalry between him and Domenech.Domenech's a very strange guy with a lot of pride and Trezeguet told him many times to f@ck off.I don't think Trezeguet will be in our team for the euro.He said today in Lequipe that he thinks at the moment he isn't even he 3rd or 4th choice in attack.

We have Henry,Cisse,Benzema,Menez,Govou ect ect...

And Anelka.

I'm rather disappointed with Domenech, because I think Trezeguet could be the ideal sub in France are 1 goal down and there's 15 minutes left to play. But the problem with Trezeguet is that he didn't play well at all in the last ten games he played with France and that is one of several factors why Domenech won't chose him. Beside, in 2002 France had Cisse best scorer in France, Trezeguet best scorer in Serie A and Henry best scorer in the E.P.L and we all know how it ended up, niet goals. As someone intelligently pointed out, the team is what counts so lets see what will happen next. In 1996 Cantona, the best player for France was not selected and France went to the semis, in 1998 and 2000 Anelka was left out, and in 2006 Pires, Anelka again, Guily were left home, and results were excellent.

Tweedle wrote:He's like RVN.

Utd thought RVN was expendable, and its the same with France.

He's a great goalscorer but France's other strikers fit better into the teams style than Trezerguet does.

Sometimes its about the team and not the individual.

Atm you have 4 strikers in the France squad who are all relatively similar, its good to have something a little different, even if hes just off the bench.

IMO Anelka Trezeguet should be the starting partnership for France.

L r d wrote:He is being left out for non footballing reasons, but i don't rate him that highly anyway. I believe most of the strikers on that list are better players than him except maybe cisse and govou i guess wiltord also but the last two can play different positions, he is a goalscorer but this doesn't always tell the whole story. Plus some of them stats are a little misleading.
He critised Domench so thats the end of his french career.

why don't you rate him that highly? im guessing you're just going to come up with the same stuff you say about RVN, how he doesnt contribute to build up play etc. Trez may not be a flashy player but his link up with Del Piero this season and in the past has been awesome. He's not a second striker so he's not going to have outstanding dribbling abilties but its not true to say he contrinutes nothing but goals. How are the stats misleading?

it depends on the system. problem is that whenever i see france they still a bit lost in their tactics and i havent really seen alot of good performances from them in a long time. whenever treze has played he has been bad but he doesnt get alot of service so he is going to look bad.juve understand how to service him and he does well.

I totally agree on the importance of having different strikers. Cisse, henry and Anelka have the same stereotype game as they rely merely on their pace. Benzema, who's a more complete player is a bit a mixture of Trezeguet -Anelka -Henry, he can almost do everything really well. Totally insulting for a 20 years old guy.

Still think Trezeguet is the one that can make the difference in an important, tense and tight game. The kind of game that is likely to be played against (quality) teams such as Italy, Holland and Romania.

BoBo Vieri wrote:

Tweedle wrote:He's like RVN.

Utd thought RVN was expendable, and its the same with France.

He's a great goalscorer but France's other strikers fit better into the teams style than Trezerguet does.

Sometimes its about the team and not the individual.

Atm you have 4 strikers in the France squad who are all relatively similar, its good to have something a little different, even if hes just off the bench.

IMO Anelka Trezeguet should be the starting partnership for France.

Neither drop back though. IMO for a successful strike partnership you need one player willing to either work the channels or play between the opposition midfield and defence.

Tweedle wrote:

BoBo Vieri wrote:

Tweedle wrote:He's like RVN.

Utd thought RVN was expendable, and its the same with France.

He's a great goalscorer but France's other strikers fit better into the teams style than Trezerguet does.

Sometimes its about the team and not the individual.

Atm you have 4 strikers in the France squad who are all relatively similar, its good to have something a little different, even if hes just off the bench.

IMO Anelka Trezeguet should be the starting partnership for France.

Neither drop back though. IMO for a successful strike partnership you need one player willing to either work the channels or play between the opposition midfield and defence.

Anelka drops back doesnt he?

Treze has been so exceptional in Serie A over the years, his goals per game ratio is nothing short of phenomenal!!

Goal.com's italian readers recently voted Treze as the best striker in Serie A in the last 15 years, over the likes of Batistuta, Sheva, Inzaghi, Signori, Vialli, Crespo, Vieri, etc... thats how good this guy has been.

Perrsonally I think France should play a finisher (treze) along with 1 or 2 support strikers (benzema, henry? for a 4-3-3) or a similar striker in a withdrawn role (Anelka for a 4-4-2)... in the world cup and the recent qualifying, their games were screaming for a lack of a world class finisher.

he's under rated because he's argentine of course

hey barrilete, you seen the argy squad for the game next week that is perhaps the olympics squad minus messi?
you guys are going to walk the olympics and retain your gold, most likely.
Very exciting young team!

I agree with Domenech.

Last performances of trez were awful (Scotland x2, Argentina) => his last 3 games in the starting team = our last 3 defeats

At the moment : Benzema>Henry>>Anelka>Trezeguet>>>>Saha>Cissé

Trez is the 4th choice.
He said he don't want to play with the A'. So that's logical that Domenech didn't call him.

Cissé was called, but he'll play with the A' and he agree with this situation.

A player who perform very well with his national team is not necessarly in the starting team of his club. The opposite is true too.

IMO, sorry but at the moment France >> Juventus.