Why is Trezeguet so under rated by France??

LordAnger wrote:hey barrilete, you seen the argy squad for the game next week that is perhaps the olympics squad minus messi?
you guys are going to walk the olympics and retain your gold, most likely.
Very exciting young team!

Yes well...Brazil are playing so we'll have to wait and see

Napoléon wrote:I agree with Domenech.

Last performances of trez were awful (Scotland x2, Argentina) .

How can you blame him??Would you score against your country???

To be fair to him that night we had one hell of a defensive performance(dull as it was)

Napoléon wrote:I agree with Domenech.

Last performances of trez were awful (Scotland x2, Argentina) => his last 3 games in the starting team = our last 3 defeats

At the moment : Benzema>Henry>>Anelka>Trezeguet>>>>Saha>Cissé

Trez is the 4th choice.
He said he don't want to play with the A'. So that's logical that Domenech didn't call him.

Cissé was called, but he'll play with the A' and he agree with this situation.

A player who perform very well with his national team is not necessarly in the starting team of his club. The opposite is true too.

IMO, sorry but at the moment France >> Juventus.

at scoring goals trez>>>>henry, beza and anelka.
anyway i think the point of this thread is not who is better but why leave out such a great player who over the last decade has proven himself to be one of the best 9s in the world.
is he really 4th choice? i get the feeling that dom would play cisse or saha before him too being the stubborn twat that he is.

Even if what you are saying is true, why would a coach leave out his 4th choice striker??

And the fact that he is very different from the top 3, and much more prolific (for club and country), he could at the very least make a powerful supersub to bring on at moments of peril.

Napoléon wrote:I agree with Domenech.

Last performances of trez were awful (Scotland x2, Argentina) => his last 3 games in the starting team = our last 3 defeats

At the moment : Benzema>Henry>>Anelka>Trezeguet>>>>Saha>Cissé

Trez is the 4th choice.

bluenine wrote:Even if what you are saying is true, why would a coach leave out his 4th choice striker??

And the fact that he is very different from the top 3, and much more prolific (for club and country), he could at the very least make a powerful supersub to bring on at moments of peril.

Napoléon wrote:I agree with Domenech.

Last performances of trez were awful (Scotland x2, Argentina) => his last 3 games in the starting team = our last 3 defeats

At the moment : Benzema>Henry>>Anelka>Trezeguet>>>>Saha>Cissé

Trez is the 4th choice.

I agree bluenine, but, now, we are talking about 2 friendly games. Domenech want to see a large number of players. It's more logical to see the 3rd and 4th choices titular in the A' team than subs in the A team (that's what Domenech did 5 months ago against Slovakia A and A'). But now, Trez refuses to play with A'...

Believe me, Trez will be at Euro as our supersub...if he accepts to be sub of course

You could say that Trezeguet is under rated by a lot of the top managers in Europe because if they wanted, they could have probably signed him this summer or even last season when Juve were in Serie B.

Thats not really true... from what I hear, Inter first tried to sign Treze, when when that was turned down, Inter went for Ibra. Well, I am not complaining now

Juve only sold the players who wanted to leave.... for example, almost all the managers on this planet would have loved to sign Buffon (I know Inter and Milan tried to) but they couldn't. So your logic does not really apply.

Batman wrote:You could say that Trezeguet is under rated by a lot of the top managers in Europe because if they wanted, they could have probably signed him this summer or even last season when Juve were in Serie B.

bluenine wrote:Thats not really true... from what I hear, Inter first tried to sign Treze, when when that was turned down, Inter went for Ibra. Well, I am not complaining now

Juve only sold the players who wanted to leave.... for example, almost all the managers on this planet would have loved to sign Buffon (I know Inter and Milan tried to) but they couldn't. So your logic does not really apply.

Batman wrote:You could say that Trezeguet is under rated by a lot of the top managers in Europe because if they wanted, they could have probably signed him this summer or even last season when Juve were in Serie B.

Buffon said he would stay, so selling him would have been bad pr, i can't remember the same quotes from Trezeguet?

I still think Trezeguet didn't leave because a team like Real, Barca, Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool didn't come after him.

If i was a manger then i would have tried to sign Ibrahimovic instead of Trezeguet because he is younger and has more to his game.

Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

bluenine wrote:Thats not really true... from what I hear, Inter first tried to sign Treze, when when that was turned down, Inter went for Ibra. Well, I am not complaining now

Juve only sold the players who wanted to leave.... for example, almost all the managers on this planet would have loved to sign Buffon (I know Inter and Milan tried to) but they couldn't. So your logic does not really apply.

Batman wrote:You could say that Trezeguet is under rated by a lot of the top managers in Europe because if they wanted, they could have probably signed him this summer or even last season when Juve were in Serie B.

That is not quite true. what i read was that juve sold enough players to they could cope with it a economic sense. i read many times that trezeuet wanted to leave and didnt he threaten to sue juve or something. also i wouldnt want trezeguet in my team because i think he needs too much service and i have seen too many times when juve have played bad and he has nothing. i know people will point at nistelrooy but imo they are different because ruud does alot more running about and can hold the ball up better then him. if there was a guarentee of service from the flanks then he would be a good buy for a team.

supermadrid wrote:

bluenine wrote:Thats not really true... from what I hear, Inter first tried to sign Treze, when when that was turned down, Inter went for Ibra. Well, I am not complaining now

Juve only sold the players who wanted to leave.... for example, almost all the managers on this planet would have loved to sign Buffon (I know Inter and Milan tried to) but they couldn't. So your logic does not really apply.

Batman wrote:You could say that Trezeguet is under rated by a lot of the top managers in Europe because if they wanted, they could have probably signed him this summer or even last season when Juve were in Serie B.

That is not quite true. what i read was that juve sold enough players to they could cope with it a economic sense. i read many times that trezeuet wanted to leave and didnt he threaten to sue juve or something. also i wouldnt want trezeguet in my team because i think he needs too much service and i have seen too many times when juve have played bad and he has nothing. i know people will point at nistelrooy but imo they are different because ruud does alot more running about and can hold the ball up better then him. if there was a guarentee of service from the flanks then he would be a good buy for a team.

Exactly right. Camaronesi wanted to leave as well, but Juve kept him.

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

can't argue with that...

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Crouch has a better goals per game ration than Rooney for England but you wouldn't find many saying he's a better player

Tweedle wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Crouch has a better goals per game ration than Rooney for England but you wouldn't find many saying he's a better player

trez is a Cr@p footballer; bad touch, no good link up play, can't dribble etc he's absolutely useless without his goals. He's a good goal scorer, i'll give him that.

Agooner wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Crouch has a better goals per game ration than Rooney for England but you wouldn't find many saying he's a better player

trez is a Cr@p footballer; bad touch, no good link up play, can't dribble etc he's absolutely useless without his goals. He's a good goal scorer, i'll give him that.

his touch is alrite, its not bad as you put it. His link up player is good, a part of his game that is very underrated. Yes he can't dribble, but then just because a player can't dribble doesnt mean he's Cr@p.

Tweedle wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Crouch has a better goals per game ration than Rooney for England but you wouldn't find many saying he's a better player

But Crouch is better than Rooney!

Anyway, its not a fair comparision. Crouch sits on the bench for Liverpool. Trezeguet is topscorer in Serie A and is proven at club and CL level too.

Agooner wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Crouch has a better goals per game ration than Rooney for England but you wouldn't find many saying he's a better player

trez is a Cr@p footballer; bad touch, no good link up play, can't dribble etc he's absolutely useless without his goals. He's a good goal scorer, i'll give him that.

Say it like it is.

Well, having followed Serie A for over 20 years, my impression is that Trezeguet is one of the best strikers to have played in this period (main strikers, not second strikers). I am comparing him with the likes of Batistuta, Shevchenko, Vieri, Signori, Crespo, Vialli, Luca Toni, etc... Trezeguet ranks among the best of this group, if not the best. I am sure if Mancio could swap Crespo for Treze, he would do it - I would, and I like Crespo!

You know, Buffon is a terrible dribbler too.... but his job is to save goals, and he is one of the best for that job. Treze's job is to score goals, and he is one of the best in that.

PS: It feels wierd to be defending a Juve and French player... and I am supposed to be the biased one....

Trez is beyond Cr@p. There is absolutely no point in scoring a gazillion goals if you can't dribble. Word

The top priority of a striker should be to score goals. If Trez is phenomenal at that, then he can't really be a Cr@p player.

@Tweeds

I never said Trez is better than Henry; I am just saying he isn't Cr@p.

Forza, I was being sarcastic

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

If not a players form in the league that he plays in, what else does the coach need to see that can convince him that the player needs to be included in the national squad. And Trezeguet's performance in the league speaks for itself...year after year. Does that at least not warrant a place in the squad...even if not first choice?

TarunDang wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Henry has got far better tournament goals per games ratio

Besides he can play a full match without scoring but still wins MOTM, u can't say the same of trezeguet.

Get over it, Trezeguet isn't good enough.

Red n' Black wrote:Forza, I was being sarcastic

Yeah, I know. I was replying more generally to the others.

Agooner wrote:

TarunDang wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Henry has got far better tournament goals per games ratio

Besides he can play a full match without scoring but still wins MOTM, u can't say the same of trezeguet.

Get over it, Trezeguet isn't good enough.

Trezeguet scored 80% of his goals when he plays with Henry. Trezeguet need Henry, Henry doesn't need Trezeguet.

Napoléon wrote:

Agooner wrote:

TarunDang wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Henry has got far better tournament goals per games ratio

Besides he can play a full match without scoring but still wins MOTM, u can't say the same of trezeguet.

Get over it, Trezeguet isn't good enough.

Trezeguet scored 80% of his goals when he plays with Henry. Trezeguet need Henry, Henry doesn't need Trezeguet.

Napoléon wrote:

Agooner wrote:

TarunDang wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Agooner wrote:Trezeguet is left out coz he's a Cr@p player.

So Cr@p that he has a better goals per game ratio for France than your hero Henry.

Henry has got far better tournament goals per games ratio

Besides he can play a full match without scoring but still wins MOTM, u can't say the same of trezeguet.

Get over it, Trezeguet isn't good enough.

Trezeguet scored 80% of his goals when he plays with Henry. Trezeguet need Henry, Henry doesn't need Trezeguet.

How about both of them playing together?? France needs them