Could Newcastle go down ?

Hammered 4-1 away at Villa today, Newcastle look in big trouble. Since KK has taken over they have won 0 drawn 2 and lost 3. In fairness they have played Arsenal twice but they should be winning agianst Botlon and Boro at home. They look low on confidence and KK tactics are already being questioned, such as why Viduka cant get on the pitch when he is fully fit and the are getting hammered.

But are they bad enough to go down ? they have a really hard run of fixtures coming up and are only 6 points outside the relegation zone. Also a terrible -18 goal difference wouldnt help things if they do get dragged down.

Their next fixtures are U*d (H), Blackburn (H), Liverpool (A), whilst they still have to go away to Pompey, West Ham and Everton and face Chelsea at home so they have a lot of very hard games where i cant see them getting anything.

Could do but wont, as bad as they are there are teams weaker and with much less quality.

Luis wrote:Could do but wont, as bad as they are there are teams weaker and with much less quality.

Yeah but i cant see them winning anything away and are even struggling at home against teams at the bottom.

id love if they went down, love it.

Newcastle belong in the CL!!! Not in the relegation zone!!!


First Leeds, now perhaps Newcastle Why do all the good clubs go!!

Sgoater1 wrote:

Luis wrote:Could do but wont, as bad as they are there are teams weaker and with much less quality.

Yeah but i cant see them winning anything away and are even struggling at home against teams at the bottom.

Can you see Fulham or Birmingham winning any away?

When i heard Keegan was taking over i put 20 quid at 20/1 for them to go down. I don't think they will, but when you looked at the fixtures they were always gonna be in a relegation battle unless he won all the easier games, and as expected by some he didn't, not only did he not win all of them, he's won none of them.

They really are not as bad as um Birmingham and teams like this so they should stay up, but wouldn't put it past them. Keegan really is not a great manager, and in this day and age with so many tactical managers around he is useless.

Luis wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:

Luis wrote:Could do but wont, as bad as they are there are teams weaker and with much less quality.

Yeah but i cant see them winning anything away and are even struggling at home against teams at the bottom.

Can you see Fulham or Birmingham winning any away?

Well Fulham have to go to Derby so maybe and Brum have played well away from home this season unlucky to lose at Chelsea ad Everton and got a point at arsenal, plus they still have away games at Fulham, WIgan and Reading so maybe.

My point is that Newcastle seem to have a lot of hard fixtures. Im not saying they will go down, i was asking what people think.

Sgoater1 wrote:

Luis wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:

Luis wrote:Could do but wont, as bad as they are there are teams weaker and with much less quality.

Yeah but i cant see them winning anything away and are even struggling at home against teams at the bottom.

Can you see Fulham or Birmingham winning any away?

Well Fulham have to go to Derby so maybe and Brum have played well away from home this season unlucky to lose at Chelsea ad Everton and got a point at arsenal, plus they still have away games at Fulham, WIgan and Reading so maybe.

My point is that Newcastle seem to have a lot of hard fixtures. Im not saying they will go down, i was asking what people think.

And I'm telling you, I don't think they will

L r d wrote:When i heard Keegan was taking over i put 20 quid at 20/1 for them to go down. I don't think they will, but when you looked at the fixtures they were always gonna be in a relegation battle unless he won all the easier games, and as expected by some he didn't, not only did he not win all of them, he's won none of them.

They really are not as bad as um Birmingham and teams like this so they should stay up, but wouldn't put it past them. Keegan really is not a great manager, and in this day and age with so many tactical managers around he is useless.

I agree mate but like we have seen in the past with teams like City, West Ham, Leeds etc there is no such thing as being too good to go down.
Great bet by the way at those odds

Too many teams below them right now. Say after another 5 games they still havent won a game, then they really might start feeling the pressure.

but at the merment im saying no they wont go down. they´ll finish around 13th...

What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?

If Sunderland win today then they will be only one point behind the might Newcastle.

I reckon they should of given Alladyce the season and then if they hadn't improved, sacked him then for Keegan so he could have a whole summer to try and improve things at the club

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?.

None of them.

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?

The Zog, great technical ability, nice shot on him and already hated by Tottenham fans, he'd fit right in.

Luis wrote:

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?.

None of them.

Milner, MArtins and N'zogbia.

Luis wrote:

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?.

None of them.

You'd take Oba in a heartbeat mate.

it'd be the only chance they'd have at getting silverware, the championship trophy next year.

Sorry yeah, Oba as a 2nd or 3rd choice striker

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?

None of them.

Given, Martins and N'Zogbia are the only players I rate at Newcastle. I still wouldn't have them at Arsenal though.

Luis wrote:

Batman wrote:What Newcastle players would you try and sign if they did go down?.

None of them.

I think Taylor, N'Zogbia, Martins could get in to the Liverpool team as first choice or backup.

if they had kept Big sam the wouldn't be in the position they are in now.

I'd snap Smith, Barton and Carr up in a shot.

We have three difficult games coming up, but then things tail off before the end of the season. I am not too concerned at the moment, I think we will ultimately avoid relegation reasonably comfortably. From an awful run of games, I take some comfort in several small signs - in the fact that our football has improved since Keegan took over, in the fact that some of our players look happier under him. Keegan hasn't been able to field anything like a full strength team yet due to suspensions and the African Nations, and, in that respect, Beye and Faye back and at full fitness will strengthen our defence whilst Martins is the type of player who can provide the spark that helps a team win games, or enables a team to recover from deficits.

Our fundamental problem, as I've said in the match day thread, is that we have a group of players that are not Premier League quality. None of Barton, Butt, Cacapa, Smith, Carr are Premier League players. We do not have a central midfield. This isn't Keegan's fault, and it was always going to be difficult to bring players in with only two weeks of the transfer window left, and with half of the team away or suspended. Added to this, because of our recent results, but more because of our level of performance over the whole season, because of the disenchantment under Allardyce, we have a group of players lacking in confidence, whose heads go down once a few goals go in. As I say, without Martins or N'Zogbia, we lack the sort of player that can drag a team from a poor position via some moment of inspiration.

I meant also to add that, whilst there seemed much criticism of Keegan's decision to leave Viduka on the bench today, it's a decision I can understand. Viduka never looks fit, and this lack of fitness can be taken as a sign that he isn't really giving his all for the team, whilst he also often looks listless on the pitch. Ultimately, I would of course play him over Smith, but then I'd arguably play Carroll, would certainly play Shola over both. I don't think Viduka is the type of player likely to change a game. At least as he is now, moving so infrequently when on the pitch, he relies very much on service.

Emre didn't start today either, though he did come on, and given our appalling midfield display he has to start in the centre from now on - I'd be inclined to go with him and N'Zogbia then Duff and Milner on the wings, which mightn't be the most balanced midfield, featuring several players who sometimes play on the left wing and a lot of attackers, but it would at least mean a midfield comprised of people who can actually pass the ball. Given Viduka's lack of fitness, I think the decision to leave Emre out today was a more questionable one. On the other hand, Keegan is still learning who his best players are. And Emre played in the week for Turkey, whilst both Barton and Butt had the week off.

Newcastle are 2 points clear of Sunderland.

Henn Glysén wrote:I'd snap Smith, Barton and Carr up in a shot.

Humour I trust.
Barton's a nasty piece of work. Should have had a penalty against him today and he went in very rashly on Ashley Young and could easily have caused him a nasty injury. Bastard.

I'd sign N'Zogshit to be our back-up Mascot

A Tribe Called TS wrote:I'd sign N'Zogshit to be our back-up Mascot

Another small black person?

I don't think they'll go down...they can do for sure, but I don't think they'll even finish bottom 6...they'll finish 14th worst ways IMO.

I've been impressed with Sunderland though (while on the subject of relegation) Whenever I watched them I think they do well, and are often unlucky.

Their matches at The Emirates, Upton Park and White Hart Lane, all ended in an unjust defeat. I think Roy Keane is a great manager.