Local based player rule: Chelski f@ck Reggina

S4P wrote:"Bloody disgrace stealing youngsters from foreign clubs."

If this had come from anyone but an Arsenal fan, you might have had a point.

S4P wrote:"Bloody disgrace - stealing youngsters from foreign clubs."

This coming from an Arsenal fan?

De Guzman wrote:

S4P wrote:"Bloody disgrace - stealing youngsters from foreign clubs."

This coming from an Arsenal fan?

I don't have to fucking agree with everything Arsenal does (same goes for Feyenoord)

Stealing teeners is a disgrace and the local based player rule is stimulating it. It should be a local raised player rule.

It's not good for footy either, because English big clubs gobble up loads of foreign youngsters, there own kids gets less chances. Furthermore these clubs are so big it takes far too long before the kids get playing time. A 16 year old is better of at a Dutch club than at an English top club, True Story.

S4P wrote:

De Guzman wrote:

S4P wrote:"Bloody disgrace - stealing youngsters from foreign clubs."

This coming from an Arsenal fan?

I don't have to fucking agree with everything Arsenal does (same goes for Feyenoord)

Stealing teeners is a disgrace and the local based player rule is stimulating it. It should be a local raised player rule.

It's not good for footy either, because English big clubs gobble up loads of foreign youngsters, there own kids gets less chances. Furthermore these clubs are so big it takes far too long before the kids get playing time. A 16 year old is better of at a Dutch club than at an English top club, True Story.

You don't have to agree with it, but then you shouldn't criticise other clubs for doing it either. I personally don't agree with it either but the lad will probably end up being loaned to various clubs in Europe (maybe even back to Holland) until he's 19-20.

De Guzman wrote:

S4P wrote:

De Guzman wrote:

S4P wrote:"Bloody disgrace - stealing youngsters from foreign clubs."

This coming from an Arsenal fan?

I don't have to fucking agree with everything Arsenal does (same goes for Feyenoord)

Stealing teeners is a disgrace and the local based player rule is stimulating it. It should be a local raised player rule.

It's not good for footy either, because English big clubs gobble up loads of foreign youngsters, there own kids gets less chances. Furthermore these clubs are so big it takes far too long before the kids get playing time. A 16 year old is better of at a Dutch club than at an English top club, True Story.

You don't have to agree with it, but then you shouldn't criticise other clubs for doing it either. I personally don't agree with it either but the lad will probably end up being loaned to various clubs in Europe (maybe even back to Holland) until he's 19-20.

BS I criticise Arsenal when we do it & I'm well allowed to critricise others if they do the same.

Just because you played on a extremely crappy pitch v Barcelona a while ago, doesn't mean you're not allowed to say another pitch is Cr@p anymore.

Just because you're Chelski, doesn't mean we need to introduce Stalinism

De Guzman wrote:The rule:

Every club participating in a UEFA competition requires to have 6 or more players, who between aged 15 and 21 played for at least 3 years for the club or another club from the same league, in their 25 player selection.

For the 2008/2009 season 6 will be increased to 8.

The Dutch FA is complaining about the definition of local based player & what it leads to. More and more often young players aged 15 or 16 get signed by clubs from big leagues. They fear the situation will only get worse.

Glad we finally raise the issue. It's a disgrace we train youngsters as of 6 years old & before they can play for the real team, somebody else steals them

De Guzman wrote:Wish other English clubs would rely on their own academy a little more (includes Arsenal). Buying shitloads of talenetd 15-18 olds does mean you have NO youth academy.

Sgoater1 wrote:
Schmichel, Richards, Onuoha, Logan, Johnson, Ireland, Etuhu, Evans and Sturridge. All look brilliant prospects and i think Richards, Johnson and Sturridge having great chances of being in the England team (alongside Joe Hart) come 2010 World Cup.

Kimbo wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:
Schmichel, Richards, Onuoha, Logan, Johnson, Ireland, Etuhu, Evans and Sturridge. All look brilliant prospects and i think Richards, Johnson and Sturridge having great chances of being in the England team (alongside Joe Hart) come 2010 World Cup.

These players were signed from other clubs to be fair.

Kimbo wrote:I'm not trying to put down your academy, I'm just stating a fact, which IMO is better than "we are super duper we are". Personally i wouldn't call Man Citys academy the best until some of these kids properly make it. So far they have nothing to compare with the players that have come through at Pool, Man U, and West Ham.

Jesus wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm not trying to put down your academy, I'm just stating a fact, which IMO is better than "we are super duper we are". Personally i wouldn't call Man Citys academy the best until some of these kids properly make it. So far they have nothing to compare with the players that have come through at Pool, Man U, and West Ham.

Liverpool

Kimbo wrote:

Jesus wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm not trying to put down your academy, I'm just stating a fact, which IMO is better than "we are super duper we are". Personally i wouldn't call Man Citys academy the best until some of these kids properly make it. So far they have nothing to compare with the players that have come through at Pool, Man U, and West Ham.

Liverpool

Well i don't like them but they have brought through Gerrard, Owen, and Carragher.

Jesus wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Jesus wrote:

Kimbo wrote:I'm not trying to put down your academy, I'm just stating a fact, which IMO is better than "we are super duper we are". Personally i wouldn't call Man Citys academy the best until some of these kids properly make it. So far they have nothing to compare with the players that have come through at Pool, Man U, and West Ham.

Liverpool

Well i don't like them but they have brought through Gerrard, Owen, and Carragher.

About 10 years ago FFS.

These days all they have is foreign imports.

De Guzman wrote:Reggina fume at Chelsea deal
Blues beat United to Italian youngster
By Nadia Carminati Last updated: 19th February 2008

Reggina are furious after they lost starlet Vincenzo Camilleri to Chelsea. Manchester United were also chasing the 15-year-old defender, but The Blues have won the race for his signature. Reggina were ready to offer Camilleri a professional contract when he turned 16 early next month - but they have been informed that he has already agreed terms with Chelsea. Camilleri travelled to London at the start of this week and the move was sealed, but the deal has infuriated Amaranto president Lillo Foti. "They let him sign a contract but will obviously use it only from March 7th - when he turns 16," fumed Foti to Corriere dello Sport. "But it is only a mirage to follow the rules, because his father told me that they have already signed."

Not happy

Foti is angry to have lost one of his best young players and he insists Italian football needs to do something. "This is not only a problem for Reggina, but for the whole of Italian football," he bemoaned. "We have worked a lot on our youth setup and then someone from abroad comes and signs our players. "As a club we have tried to defend our asset for our own interests as well as those of Italian football as a whole. "We were also trying to follow Italian Football Federation recommendations by showing support for our youth side, but another young talent has been stolen away. "This happened because it was a club of Chelsea's size, but now we will be asking the FIGC to help us search for compensation and to launch a complaint."

Chelsea are yet to agree terms with Reggina, who are due compensation, but given Camilleri's age, they will only likely receive a nominal sum.

BLOODY DISGRACE!

De Guzman wrote:How many youth teams do City have at all levels?