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    Post by Ä Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:15 pm

    http://www.sport1.de/de/apps/news/news-meldung/news_2174212.html

    the following countries have shown some interest so far

    Belgian+Holland

    Mexiko

    USA

    England

    Russland

    China

    Japan

    Australien

    Spanien + Portugal

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    looks like it will be a contest between England, Russia, Australia and China

    I hope Russia gets it
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    Post by Rosicky Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:15 pm

    Funny i thought you would be backing englands bid otto.
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    Post by Ä Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:19 pm

    I suppose commercial considerations make England favourites

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    it's their turn

    China are a strong outside bet though
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    Post by Rosicky Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:21 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    China are a strong outside bet though

    They wont get it Japan and Korean had it 2002.

    Id rather OZ got it, but then all the matches are on at $h!t times for Europe and South America...
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    Post by EMP Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:23 pm

    Why don't you think Russia has a chance? They have never had it, plus would have wealthy benefactors to ensure it was commercially up to scratch.
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    Post by Ä Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:40 pm

    Russia SHOULD get it

    their rich sugar daddies got them the Winter Olympics as well

    so who knows

    I still think that commercial and media reasons mean that England will get the nod, unless the FA or the League produce other blunders
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:06 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    I still think that commercial and media reasons mean that England will get the nod, unless the FA or the League produce other blunders

    + the FACT we have the stadiums

    + the FACT we have the facilities

    + the FACT it is the main sport here, unlike some of the candidates

    + the FACT it is home to one of the big 3 leagues

    + the FACT it is the home of football


    England has everything going for it, only bitterness and agendas from johnny foreigner can stop it's bid. <Ale>
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    Post by Ä Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:13 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    I still think that commercial and media reasons mean that England will get the nod, unless the FA or the League produce other blunders

    + the FACT we have the stadiums

    <<<< not AT THE MOMENT; ENglish stadia are miniscule; but obviously by 2018, there will be a few decent ones>>>>>

    + the FACT we have the facilities

    <<<< concerning stadia: see above; otherwise, transport sucks; hotels are too expensive; Heathrow sucks BIG TIME...>>>>

    + the FACT it is the main sport here, unlike some of the candidates

    <<<< same in Russia and China >>>>

    + the FACT it is home to one of the big 3 leagues

    <<<<< completely irrelevant >>>>

    + the FACT it is the home of football

    <<<<< possibly birthplace; the HOME of football are Brazil and Germany >>>>



    England has everything going for it,

    <<< only English language media >>>>>

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    Post by Rosicky Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:19 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    I still think that commercial and media reasons mean that England will get the nod, unless the FA or the League produce other blunders

    + the FACT we have the stadiums

    <<<< not AT THE MOMENT; ENglish stadia are miniscule; but obviously by 2018, there will be a few decent ones>>>>>

    >


    lol! lol!

    Like to see a comparison with Russia and China of their football stadia vs ours.
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    Post by Kimbo Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:22 pm

    26-Otto-19 wrote:
    <<<< not AT THE MOMENT; ENglish stadia are miniscule; but obviously by 2018, there will be a few decent ones>>>>>

    Wembley - 90'000
    Old Trafford - 75'000
    Emirates - 60'000
    St James Park - 52'300
    Stadium of Light - 48'000

    Yeah, tiny.

    <<<< concerning stadia: see above; otherwise, transport sucks; hotels are too expensive; Heathrow sucks BIG TIME...>>>>

    Transport where i come from is fine. Heathrow does suck, but fortunately there are umpteen other airports to choose from if that is really a big deal to you. We have thousends of travel inns, are they too expensive???


    <<<< same in Russia and China >>>>

    Obviously, which is why i said some. It's not the main sport in Australia, the USA, or i think Mexico which has Yankball, or Japan which has baseball.


    <<<<< completely irrelevant >>>>

    Not at all, England Italy and Spain are THE hotbeds of great football, only a fool would choose to host a world cup in Russia over one of those countries.


    <<<<< possibly birthplace; the HOME of football are Brazil and Germany >>>>

    The birthplace AND home - along with Spain and Italy one might argue. Germany and Brazil? I don't see where they come into it at all.

    <<< only English language media >>>>>

    No.
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    Post by debaser Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:24 pm

    assuming the Beijing Olympics go down well, China will probably put in a strong bid but i think it'll end up in Europe.

    obviously I favour England as I'd love the tournament to be in my country, plus I think it'd be guaranteed to be a good tournament for fans, much like Germany in 2006.

    Russia and Benelux could be good options too, but:

    what cities would Russia use, after Moscow and St Petersburg?

    are fifa going to accept joint bids?
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    Post by Rosicky Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:27 pm

    I hear there are some nice stadiums in Okhotsk..Whistle
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:35 pm

    It should go to spain/Mexico

    Austrailia and China would make go host as well but i kind be bothered to wake up 5am to watch a football match
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:37 pm

    Messiah wrote:It should go to spain/Mexico

    Why?

    Both have hosted the tournament more recently than England and Mexico has already hosted it twice.
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    Post by TM Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:39 pm

    Somewhere in Asia.

    Promote the game more in that area.
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    Post by Guest Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:03 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:
    Messiah wrote:It should go to spain/Mexico

    Why?

    Both have hosted the tournament more recently than England and Mexico has already hosted it twice.

    1) Because if its in Japan/Austrailia i would have to wake up too early.

    2) I don't see the point in Holland and Belgium building huge stadiums and after the world cup they wouldn't be able to fill them.

    3) With home advantage england may actually have a chance of making it pass the QF, which will then lead to the english media installing england as the favourites for the next 4/5 world cups.

    4) Russia and china are Dictatorships and unlike the IOC i think fifa should stand up for democracy .

    so that only leaves spain and Mexico

    But if i could be bother to wake up 5&6 am for a football match not involving FC barcelona, i think Australia would make excellent host and it will give a boost to the game which is already on th rasie there.
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    Post by Fey Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:07 am

    Messiah wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:
    Messiah wrote:It should go to spain/Mexico

    Why?

    Both have hosted the tournament more recently than England and Mexico has already hosted it twice.

    1) Because if its in Japan/Austrailia i would have to wake up too early.

    2) I don't see the point in Holland and Belgium building huge stadiums and after the world cup they wouldn't be able to fill them.

    3) With home advantage england may actually have a chance of making it pass the QF, which will then lead to the english media installing england as the favourites for the next 4/5 world cups.

    4) Russia and china are Dictatorships and unlike the IOC i think fifa should stand up for democracy .

    so that only leaves spain and Mexico

    But if i could be bother to wake up 5&6 am for a football match not involving FC barcelona, i think Australia would make excellent host and it will give a boost to the game which is already on th rasie there.

    Fair point about Belgium...but we need a new stadium anyway. And that will be 80000+ Just because we can fill it ok

    Then again one stadium is not enough I guess..
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    Post by Riviera Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:48 am

    Does the fact that Europe most likely will host the Olympics in 2018 count in? If so a non-European country would stand stronger

    Since England are hosting 2012 Olympics (with football), my vote would go to Russia.
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    Post by L.r.d Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:18 am

    Riviera wrote:Does the fact that Europe most likely will host the Olympics in 2018 count in? If so a non-European country would stand stronger

    Since England are hosting 2012 Olympics (with football), my vote would go to Russia.

    Norway, America, Russia...whoever can have the olympics if it helped us getting the world cup. I don't know anyone who gives a $h!t about the olympics. But the country would go CRAZY for a world cup.

    Seriously we need it here again, we wont win the world cup any other way!
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    Post by fcb Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:28 am

    England should get it...it's definitely going to be in Europe anyway, and they'll already have the infrastructure after 2012. Plus it's time there's a World Cup there again, it's been a long time since 1966.
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    Post by EMP Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:45 pm

    It's been even longer for Russia - i.e. never, same with Holland/Belgium and Australia. Not saying England shouldn't get it, but time should not be factor as some have never had it. Infrastructure in England is good argument that they can host it well.
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    Post by Ä Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:35 pm

    latest update

    the candidates so far:

    Spanien: could be an option

    Portugal: country is too small

    Australien: too early

    England: too expensive and commercial for visitors

    USA: the Americas should be out , if 2014 goes to Brazil

    China: BEST choice

    Japan: they just had it

    Mexiko: see USA

    Russland: SECOND best choice

    Katar : Laugh

    Uruguay: see USA

    Holland + Belgien: they staged one Euro together and it was a total flop: I was living in Brussels at the time, there was ZERO atmosphere

    so, let it go to China or Russia Ale
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    Post by debaser Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:06 pm

    Barack Obama's election could derail England's bid to host the 2018 World Cup, according to a "high-placed" Fifa official. The unnamed source told Yahoo Sports that Obama's popularity will be "a huge factor" in deciding whether the USA is selected to host either the 2018 or 2022 tournaments.

    "How can it not make a difference," said the source. "Now when you think of America, you don't think George W Bush or war, you think of this man, Obama, who has made history and given hope to millions. The men who vote on World Cup hosts are not immune to those same feelings. If the US bid stacks up in terms of infrastructure and organization, then Obama could be a huge factor."

    While the FA have confirmed that England will be in the running to host the 2018 tournament, US Soccer is waiting for Fifa to clarify the bidding rules before making an announcement. US Soccer President, Sunil Gulati, has said that the organisation intends to bid "in an aggressive fashion" as soon as Fifa clarify whether nations will be forced to choose which World Cup to bid for, or if they will be allowed to put forward for both 2018 and 2022.

    "We know we would stage a terrific World Cup and having people view us as a nation in a better way is a positive," Gulati commented. "Anything that enhances the perceived views of the United States can only be a positive for us.

    "It was very clear from the reaction around the world just how popular this result has been. This election has given a lot of people a reason to cheer."

    Even if he wins a second term, Obama will no longer be in office by 2018. The winning bid will be determined, however, by a vote in 2011 - before the end of Obama's first term.

    Fifa president Sepp Blatter is expected to visit Obama at the White House next year. Earlier this year Obama revealed that he had been a West Ham fan since he visited England in 2003. He can often be seen pitch-side at his daughter's soccer games in Chicago.

    His election is also believed to be likely to have a galvanizing effect on Chicago's bid to host the 2016 Olympics, meaning that, as in the 1990s, the USA could host the two biggest sports tournaments on the planet in the space of two years.

    As well as England, Spain and Portugal have also confirmed their interest in co-hosting the 2018 tournament, while this morning the Dutch and Belgian football associations agreed to establish a joint foundation to prepare their own bid. Qatar, Russia and Australia are all also in the running.



    Obama-fever is getting silly. Newspapers shoehorn him into every article in existence. But even though this is nonsense, it should be re-iterated that USA really really really shouldn't be getting another world cup so soon.
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:48 pm

    Englands candidate cities are supposed to be revealed in 10 minutes. Lets see if the fuckers fuck it up!!! <Ale>

    I think it's 10 of this bunch

    Birmingham
    Bristol
    Derby
    Hull
    Leeds
    Leicester
    Liverpool
    London
    Manchester
    Milton Keynes
    Newcastle/Gateshead
    Nottingham
    Plymouth
    Sheffield
    Sunderland
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    Post by debaser Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:00 pm

    Should be London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham, Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds, Sunderland and Bristol ok
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    Post by Antarion Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:06 pm

    After Africa and Brazil it shuld be in Europe again for 2018.

    England has the edge for me, closely followed by Spain then Russia.

    For 2022 i can see Australia, China, Russia or USA.
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    Post by Rasiak-9 Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:09 pm

    debethlehem wrote:Should be London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham, Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds, Sunderland and Bristol ok

    Can't you only have one from each region? which rules out Sunderland and Newcastle?

    Shame theres nowhere from the south coast. I'd even be cool with pompey getting it if their previously planned new stadium had gone ahead.
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:11 pm

    Milton Keynes?! 2 from Manchester and 3 from London? scratch
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:12 pm

    London - Wembley
    London - Emirates
    London - New White Hart Lane or Olympic Stadium
    Manchester - Old Trafford
    Manchester - CoM
    Sunderland - SoL
    Birmingham - Villa Park
    Nottingham - New stadium
    Leeds - Elland Road
    Sheffield - Hillsbrough
    Newcastle/Gateshead - SJP
    Bristol - New Ashtonville Stadium
    Plymouth - Home Park

    Liverpool - Anfield or New Anfield
    Milton Keynes - Stadium MK


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    Post by debaser Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:13 pm

    Rasiaktherednosedreindeer wrote:
    debethlehem wrote:Should be London, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham, Sheffield, Nottingham, Leeds, Sunderland and Bristol ok

    Can't you only have one from each region? which rules out Sunderland and Newcastle?

    Shame theres nowhere from the south coast. I'd even be cool with pompey getting it if their previously planned new stadium had gone ahead.

    Plymouth are on the list as South Coasters. Although I think they'd be a surprise pick. I think Pompey dropped out with their money problems.

    I don't know rules on regions - but if you can't have Newcastle + Sunderland wouldn't that also rule out, say, Leeds + Sheffield? Or even Manchester + Liverpool?

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