5 years ranking - when will the bundesliga overcome italy

do you think its possible in the future?

next year germany will be number 4 in europe with 41 points, italy will have 49 points (so far, the year is not over, its very likely that the differnce will be more positive for the germans at the end of this season)

or the italien top 4 too strong !!!(juventus will be back, inter, acmilan, roma)


ok germany got

hsv (without vdv and stevens this team will not be the same next year, so i hope they dont qualify for the cl)

bremen (hopefully podolski or gomez joins bremen, i think with full squad this team can beat any side on a good day)

bayern (will be one of the favourites for the next year to win the cl)

schalke (good side in my eyes, they need an attacking /goalscoring midfielder and a new quality striker, but very good defence)


leverkusen (very talented side, will grow as a team)

Fiorentina would be the second best team in the Bundesliga.

BM wrote:Fiorentina would be the second best team in the Bundesliga.

shut up

Toni Kroos wrote:

BM wrote:Fiorentina would be the second best team in the Bundesliga.

shut up

You're right, I'm being far too harsh on Bremen. The Viola would be the 3rd best team in the Bundesliga, I do believe that's Champions League football.

BM wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

BM wrote:Fiorentina would be the second best team in the Bundesliga.

shut up

You're right, I'm being far too harsh on Bremen. The Viola would be the 3rd best team in the Bundesliga, I do believe that's Champions League football.

hopefully fiorentina will play against hsv, they will prove you wrong


fiorentaina is a facking joke

Toni Kroos wrote:

BM wrote:

Toni Kroos wrote:

BM wrote:Fiorentina would be the second best team in the Bundesliga.

shut up

You're right, I'm being far too harsh on Bremen. The Viola would be the 3rd best team in the Bundesliga, I do believe that's Champions League football.

hopefully fiorentina will play against hsv, they will prove you wrong


fiorentaina is a facking joke

Well Fiorentina are playing against Roma this weekend, lets hope they prove to be a "facking joke" then ay.

The third place for the Bundesliga is not realistic imo. For a few years we would have to repeat this strong year while Italy would have to underperform like this year (so far). That will hardly happen.

I think we can expect maybe about 10-10.5 points per season on average for the Bundesliga. That´s by far not enough to compete with Seria A, but hopefully we can defend the 4th place in the future.

chrissicross wrote:The third place for the Bundesliga is not realistic imo. For a few years we would have to repeat this strong year while Italy would have to underperform like this year (so far). That will hardly happen.

I think we can expect maybe about 10-10.5 points per season on average for the Bundesliga. That´s by far not enough to compete with Seria A, but hopefully we can defend the 4th place in the future.

i agree

The question is, when are we going to get a German club back in the top 5 deisler?

1. AC Milan 119.439
2. Chelsea 112.305
3. Liverpool 109.305
4. Barcelona 108.095
5. Arsenal 105.305

I think the top 4 (Spain, England, Italy and France) will remain the same for a while. The Big 3 will not lose their possition in the next 10 years (unless something realy wrong happens).

Gone wrote:I think the top 4 (Spain, England, Italy and France) will remain the same for a while. The Big 3 will not lose their possition in the next 10 years (unless something realy wrong happens).

so who is actually 4th: france or germany?

and where is this list?

For 2008:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/crank2008.html

Gone wrote:I think the top 4 (Spain, England, Italy and France) will remain the same for a while.

Germany are already ranked 4th next season, 2.7 points ahead of France so far. And at the end of this season we might even start into the next season about 5 points ahead of France...

chrissicross wrote:

Gone wrote:I think the top 4 (Spain, England, Italy and France) will remain the same for a while.

Germany are already ranked 4th next season, 2.7 points ahead of France so far. And at the end of this season we might even start into the next season about 5 points ahead of France...

I are right, I didn't see how bad France was this year.