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    Who do you want in the next round?

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    Post by Black Magic Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:18 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    il piccolo Coccodrillo wrote:What I would like to see:

    AS Roma Vs Schalke 04

    Barcelona Vs Man Utd

    Inter Milan Vs Fenerbahce

    Arsenal Vs Chelsea

    Why? Why the hell would you want Chelsea?

    I'd like to see:

    Barca - Chelsea
    Arsenal - Roma
    Schalke - Liverpool
    Man Utd - Fenerbache.

    If Inter get through I want to draw them.

    Because I don't think we'll lose every game Tweeds. Tbh I don't care as long as Roma and Arsenal avoid each other. <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:19 pm

    Yeh, but it kinda defeats the point of a Euro competition.

    I hope we don't meet an EPL team at all.

    Roma - Arsenal would be my dream tie Very Happy
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    Post by Black Magic Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:22 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Yeh, but it kinda defeats the point of a Euro competition.

    I hope we don't meet an EPL team at all.

    Roma - Arsenal would be my dream tie Very Happy

    Don't bother me none if they is English. Just don't want to see Roma Vs Arsenal.
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    Post by DS Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:23 pm

    So what you want and what you think you will get realistically?
    Probably want Schalke would probably get Barcelona or Chelsea.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:24 pm

    Dark Savante wrote:So what you want and what you think you will get realistically?
    Probably want Schalke would probably get Barcelona or Chelsea.

    Liverpool and Man United has got to happen one day. Why not the next round.

    Of course I'd be happy with Shalke or Fenerbache though.

    Got a feeling Roma would be alot harder to beat this year.

    Just want to avoid Chelsea and Barca.
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    Post by fcb Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:57 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:
    A Tribe Called TS™️ wrote:Hope Fenerbache and Schalke draw each other Ale
    Bubbly Bubbly Bubbly

    Chelsea vs Arsenal

    Liverpool vs Man Utd

    Barcelona vs Roma


    <Ale> <Ale> <Ale>

    Same here, I want to see the 4 English sides draw each other so that we can avoid them Very Happy
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:59 pm

    i would rather draw Man Utd/Arsenal, than roma with their all out attacking philosophy and us not sure which one of our defense will show up and a given day i would rather no risk it.
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    Post by golsud Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:18 pm

    Fenerbahce or Schalke Biggrin

    The one I most want to avoid is Liverpool.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:34 pm

    Messiah wrote:i would rather draw Man Utd/Arsenal, than roma with their all out attacking philosophy and us not sure which one of our defense will show up and a given day i would rather no risk it.

    Its not as though Utd or Arsenal are particularly defensive.

    Also you've been knocked out by Chelsea and Liverpool in recent years, neither of whom are particularly attacking.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:48 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Messiah wrote:i would rather draw Man Utd/Arsenal, than roma with their all out attacking philosophy and us not sure which one of our defense will show up and a given day i would rather no risk it.

    Its not as though Utd or Arsenal are particularly defensive.

    Also you've been knocked out by Chelsea and Liverpool in recent years, neither of whom are particularly attacking.

    Its not a matter of being defensive or offensive is more about a style for play.

    Arsenal Game is based all most entirely on possession football, and i believe that we are better at keeping the ball the arsenal so if they don't have the ball they will have to resort to counter attacks something their team isn't built for anymore.

    Mar Utd are principally and counter-attacking team, we are a possession team so the more we have the ball the less man utd and use of pace of Ronaldo and the likes to hurt us .

    add to that both their teams have a lightweight central midfield, Cess and Flamini, Carrick and scholes. so i don't think they will be able to harass our midfield the way chelsea will be able to and liverpool are just to good or too lucky in these home and away games for us to take a chance without messi.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:51 pm

    It won't be Carrick and Scholes.

    We've played a 3 man midfield in both the CL knock out games.

    Scholes, Hargreaves & Anderson away.
    Carrick, Fletcher & Anderson at home.

    We did similar last season against Roma & Milan, with Giggs or Scholes playing behind Rooney.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:54 pm

    When does the draw actually take place?
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    Post by fcb Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:00 pm

    March 14.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:04 pm

    "a lightweight central midfield, Cesc and Flamini"

    – ooh, this is VERY naive Laughing
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:15 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:"a lightweight central midfield, Cesc and Flamini"

    – ooh, this is VERY naive Laughing

    are you telling me that Cesc and Flamini will be able to pressure a midfield of

    ------Yaya

    --Xavi-------Deco/Iniesta

    enough to affect our game in a digestive manner?,
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    Post by christmasborocooper Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:23 pm

    kas wrote:March 14.

    cheers ok
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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:31 pm

    Messiah wrote:
    Allez les rouges wrote:"a lightweight central midfield, Cesc and Flamini"

    – ooh, this is VERY naive Laughing

    are you telling me that Cesc and Flamini will be able to pressure a midfield of

    ------Yaya

    --Xavi-------Deco/Iniesta

    enough to affect our game in a digestive manner?,

    Yes, I am saying that (although I'm not quite sure what you mean by "digestive" Wink ). Obviously I didn't watch your game on Tuesday any more than you watched ours, but Flamini has been on superlative form all season and Cesc's defensive as well as distributive qualities are repeatedly much undervalued. For me it is a central midfield to compare with the most effective pairings in the world at the moment, Ballack-Frings, Gattuso-Pirlo and the like. Now I myself prefer a 4-4-2 but when you consider that 4-5-1 is likelier in Europe, esp. if there's no RVP, you have to factor in Hleb in a more forward central position and wide midfielders who will hardly be hugging the touchline. The shape is fluid and things may end up being more crowded than you think.

    Don't get me wrong, your midfield trio is a monstrous one, but because you play with such an imposing central three doesn't mean we'll be overrun – I think we have the resources to compete. After all, we certainly had the better of Gattuso, Pirlo and Ambrosini this week, and although it would be naive to deny that Milan massively disappointed in that department, and that Seedorf was a big miss for them, I think when our players turn up it isn't so easy to settle the midfield battle as you might think.

    (I tend to agree with you on Scholes/Carrick, by the way, although it has worked very well, particularly against "lesser" teams; Scholes no longer has the physical presence to play in a central midfield two at this level, and if he does it will be in a three, with up to three permed from Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves, Anderson and Fletcher – so you can't make the assumptions about their midfield that you could even last season...)
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    Post by Dwarf Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:05 pm

    Hopefully Fenerbache, Schalke and Roma have their second legs at home this time if they all avoid each other. It was a pleasant surprise to see second tier clubs perform well on the road for once in a second leg, but I doubt they have the quality to do so again against better opposition.
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    Post by DS Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:21 pm

    Wasnt the midfield of Carrick Fletcher and Anderson that waltz past Cesc Flamini.

    If Barcelona think Yaya Toure is imposing they havent seen the energy levels of Fletcher or Hargreaves or Anderson.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:41 pm

    Mathieu didn't come on till very late in that game Bilal, Gilberto played in midfield dammit and the whole team played like they didn't want to be there. That's a midfield of Cesc and Gilberto (who might as well be playing for the opposition when he plays there these days) against a central three for you guys. Not a contest.

    Do behave Wink
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    Post by DS Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:58 pm

    Allez les rouges wrote:Mathieu didn't come on till very late in that game Bilal, Gilberto played in midfield dammit and the whole team played like they didn't want to be there. That's a midfield of Cesc and Gilberto (who might as well be playing for the opposition when he plays there these days) against a central three for you guys. Not a contest.

    Do behave Wink
    It wasnt a 442 for you guys you never play 442 these days even at home never mind away ,okay Gilberto but did you improve when Flamini was there no.
    Dont give me not interested excuse , Gallas was pretty interested in giving interviews about us though.
    If Barcelona found Momo tough to handle they have no idea what Fletch can do at the same high energy game(hoping I am not jinxing him) and add Hargy and Anderson there.
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    Post by debaser Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:21 pm

    hope there's some different match-ups, such like we haven't had for a while e.g. Man Utd-Barcelona, Chelsea-Roma (when was the last time Chelsea faced an Italian side?)

    Chelsea-Barca and ManU-Roma have just happened too often the last few years and all prem games ain't much fun, although utd-pool would be entertaining on here.
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    Post by S4P Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:32 pm

    debaser wrote:hope there's some different match-ups, such like we haven't had for a while e.g. Man Utd-Barcelona, Chelsea-Roma (when was the last time Chelsea faced an Italian side?).

    Our last victory against Italians was actually in Rome (4-0 v Lazio in Abramovich's first season).
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    Post by Luis Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:49 pm

    If we get through I want Fernebache or Schalke, just want to avoid an English team to be honest but I have a feeling we would get Arsenal.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:55 pm

    Why do people want Fenerbahce away 1st ?

    If you play them at home (they haven't won away in CL for 3 yrs) you can end the tie or get a good lead to counter attack with.

    If you away 1st you could easily lose 1 or 2-0 with their mental fans behind them and they'd have something to defend for the 2nd leg.

    I hope:

    Barca v Man U

    Liverpool v Schalke

    Fenerbahce v Arsenal

    Chelsea v Roma
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:57 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Why do people want Fenerbahce away 1st ?

    If you play them at home (they haven't won away in CL for 3 yrs) you can end the tie or get a good lead to counter attack with.

    If you away 1st you could easily lose 1 or 2-0 with their mental fans behind them and they'd have something to defend for the 2nd leg.

    I hope:

    Barca v Man U

    Liverpool v Schalke

    Fenerbahce v Arsenal

    Chelsea v Roma

    we'll walk it ok
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:59 pm

    Hlebtastic wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:Why do people want Fenerbahce away 1st ?

    If you play them at home (they haven't won away in CL for 3 yrs) you can end the tie or get a good lead to counter attack with.

    If you away 1st you could easily lose 1 or 2-0 with their mental fans behind them and they'd have something to defend for the 2nd leg.

    I hope:

    Barca v Man U

    Liverpool v Schalke

    Fenerbahce v Arsenal

    Chelsea v Roma

    we'll walk it ok

    Lugano would get one of yours sent off and Alex would open your defence up time and again.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:08 pm

    We are not a naive team Pierre. Our players are all hard working but none of them is card happy.

    Alex will open up our defence time and again u say? he needs top have the ball in the 1st place to be able to do that.

    An inferior team that tries to play football doesn´t scare me, we are masters at keeping the ball and making them chase it for the entire 90 mins plus we´ve got players that can always make a difference.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:10 pm

    Hlebtastic wrote:We are not a naive team Pierre. Our players are all hard working but none of them is card happy.

    Alex will open up our defence time and again u say? he needs top have the ball in the 1st place to be able to do that.

    An inferior team that tries to play football doesn´t scare me, we are masters at keeping the ball and making them chase it for the entire 90 mins plus we´ve got players that can always make a difference.

    I bet you thought that v PSV last year <Ale>
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    Post by The Pröfessör Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:13 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Hlebtastic wrote:We are not a naive team Pierre. Our players are all hard working but none of them is card happy.

    Alex will open up our defence time and again u say? he needs top have the ball in the 1st place to be able to do that.

    An inferior team that tries to play football doesn´t scare me, we are masters at keeping the ball and making them chase it for the entire 90 mins plus we´ve got players that can always make a difference.

    I bet you thought that v PSV last year <Ale>

    We are a completely different team this season <Ale>

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