YO COTR!

That fucking c**t Bennet fucked Liverpool. That fucking Manc was on a mission from the get go conditioning Mascherano (L'pool's engine) for the duration of the game.

In a game this evenly matched, where little details decide the outcome, that's where the game was tilted. Most fans won't even be aware of how Mascherano's first yellow was HUGE. After that the Argentinian was running with his hands tied behind his back, crippling Liverpool. I KNOW that, and Mascherano knows that. That's why he and Rafa were fuming. That Fucking Manc Bennet RUINED this great match. Ferguson's got long arms in the league.

There's always next season!

I've just stated in the match thread that mascha's first yellow was harsh. It wasn't a bad tackle


torres' yellow card was fucking ridiculous

mascha was unbelievably stupid to get involved but after seeing it again he has barely said a fucking word to the ref.



I am beyond pissed

COTR wrote:I've just stated in the match thread that mascha's first yellow was harsh. It wasn't a bad tackle


torres' yellow card was fucking ridiculous

mascha was unbelievably stupid to get involved but after seeing it again he has barely said a fucking word to the ref.



I am beyond pissed

I was just trying to enjoy watching a great game, and Bennet pulled this shite on Mascherano early on. I would be fuming too if I were a Red. Bennet fucked Liverpool BIG TIME with that first yellow on Mascherano. Rafa's face said it all "Fuck! here we go again with these Manc refs!".

Rafa was incandescent with rage.

COTR wrote:I've just stated in the match thread that mascha's first yellow was harsh. It wasn't a bad tackle


torres' yellow card was fucking ridiculous

mascha was unbelievably stupid to get involved but after seeing it again he has barely said a fucking word to the ref.



I am beyond pissed

BTW BOTH yellow cards were NOTHING to do with Man Utd and EVERYTHING to do with FOUL mouthed L'pool players (and the 1st ebinga bad foul by Madscherono)

Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

What goes around comes around.

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

I won't argue the 2nd, he was clearly asking for it and it was patently stupid to keep talking.

A Tribe Called TS™ wrote:

What goes around comes around.

With uncanny consistency.

it was probably the best result as far as the board is concerned. God alone knows what kind of sulky, mum fisting tantrum Rai would have exhibited had Liverpool gotten anything out of the game.

All we can do now is hope that Arsenal and Chelsea both win this afternoon to keep the title race alive. Alas I don't see this happening.

Puro talks a lot of $h!t but he is correct about ManU and the refs .

Mascherano only has himself to blame...his behavior was fucking ridiculous.

shazlx wrote:Puro talks a lot of $h!t but he is correct about ManU and the refs .

No, I don't talk shite at all. I just point out the obvious that somehow the majority of fans in England aren't aware of. I blame the media for that, covering their eyes and feeding them bullshit all the time.

Someone wrote earlier that Gerrard was useless today. I don't fault Gerrard for having a bad game today. He had to play central midfield after Mascherano was sent off, and that move obviously played into Anderson's hands or rather his pocket. Stevie G would've had a good game had Mascherano and Xabi been the central midfielders the whole game as Rafa had it planned.

Yo COTR! here's hoping you get another crack at the Mancs this season in Europe, in a neutral venue AND WITH NEUTRAL REFS!

Fergie has a stranglehold in the league with his lieutenants as coaches also crippling his enemies such as Arsenal. He had his fellow Scott from Birmingham ordering his troops to take out Eduardo. Arsenal haven't been the same in the league since Eduardo horrific injury. Fergie also has a good bunch of refs in his pocket.

It just shows that Mourinho's achievements in the EPL, all in all, are EVEN more impressive than originally thought.

Puro wrote:
Fergie has a stranglehold in the league with his lieutenants as coaches also crippling his enemies such as Arsenal. He had his fellow Scott from Birmingham ordering his troops to take out Eduardo. Arsenal haven't been the same in the league since Eduardo horrific injury. Fergie also has a good bunch of refs in his pocket.

Would these be the same refs who sent off Ronaldo for no good reason?

Arsenal have been Cr@p since the 4-0 against Man U (which they fully deserved and in which the referee gave almost everything Arsenal's way). Eduardo's injury has nothing to do with it - he wasn't even playing well when he got injured.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Thats a VERY good way of looking at it....i hadnt thought of that!

Nightwing wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Thats a VERY good way of looking at it....i hadnt thought of that!

we all know what you haven't thought of, by process of illumination it's anything you haven't started a thread about

Dirkitar Kuytatov wrote:

Nightwing wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Thats a VERY good way of looking at it....i hadnt thought of that!

we all know what you haven't thought of, by process of illumination it's anything you haven't started a thread about

Not elimination?

Yoda wrote:

Puro wrote:
Fergie has a stranglehold in the league with his lieutenants as coaches also crippling his enemies such as Arsenal. He had his fellow Scott from Birmingham ordering his troops to take out Eduardo. Arsenal haven't been the same in the league since Eduardo horrific injury. Fergie also has a good bunch of refs in his pocket.

Would these be the same refs who sent off Ronaldo for no good reason?

Arsenal have been Cr@p since the 4-0 against Man U (which they fully deserved and in which the referee gave almost everything Arsenal's way). Eduardo's injury has nothing to do with it - he wasn't even playing well when he got injured.

Saint are ye gonna update your sig? also please can i have one with today Man Utd v L'pool result please?

Dirkitar Kuytatov wrote:

Nightwing wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Thats a VERY good way of looking at it....i hadnt thought of that!

we all know what you haven't thought of, by process of illumination it's anything you haven't started a thread about

Nightwing wrote:
Saint are ye gonna update your sig?

Nah, I like the Adebayor comment compared with their next result being 0-0.

also please can i have one with today Man Utd v L'pool result please?

Make YARRRRR own...

Rosicky wrote:

Dirkitar Kuytatov wrote:

Nightwing wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Historicus wrote:Bad foul? His studs were down. That was the definition of a free kick and nothing more.

It was wild and reckless

He wanted the 2nd yellow - convenient excuse for an inevitable defeat.

Thats a VERY good way of looking at it....i hadnt thought of that!

we all know what you haven't thought of, by process of illumination it's anything you haven't started a thread about

Not elimination?

no, if you illuminate everything Nutters hasn't started a thread about (perhaps with a candle) then that's what he hasn't thought of.

Puro wrote:That fucking c**t Bennet fucked Liverpool. That fucking Manc was on a mission from the get go conditioning Mascherano (L'pool's engine) for the duration of the game.

In a game this evenly matched, where little details decide the outcome, that's where the game was tilted. Most fans won't even be aware of how Mascherano's first yellow was HUGE. After that the Argentinian was running with his hands tied behind his back, crippling Liverpool. I KNOW that, and Mascherano knows that. That's why he and Rafa were fuming. That Fucking Manc Bennet RUINED this great match. Ferguson's got long arms in the league.

There's always next season!

How can you disagree with that sending off? I can't stand Bennett or the Manx, but both yellow cards were well deserved. Get a grip Puro!

People said that Masch didn't swear at Bennett for the 2nd yellow but he had been swearing at him non-stop between the 1st and 2nd booking.

Arbeloa did a clear foul for a yellow in the 2nd half and Gerrard told Bennett he was "taking the fucking piss".

I know sticking up for refs is not the done thing but people are behaving like $h!t right now - there's so much pressure on people that they go mental when they are losing and blame it all on the refs instead of themselves.

I love the fact that John Terry has supported the respect campaign

Nice to see Redknapp getting stuck into Andy Gray at HT too when the serial bastard maker inevitably blamed it all on Bennett - I have respect for Jamie now

Gray has a go at refs all the time to show he's a man of the people - the $h!t-thick bar stool football pundits blame everything on refs and its Gray's rather patronising way of showing he's just like you and me, the only difference being that he gets paid £1.9m a year to talk C0ck.

But what were Liverpool and Mascherano upset about in the first place? what decisions had gone against them?
Maybe the Torres yellow was harsh but apart from that......

What Gerrard said wasnt really bad or worth a yellow, but again how was Bennett taking the piss in terms of decisions?

Mascherano first tackle was a yellow in any country, it was early in the game and sometimes refs let these go purely due to that, but it was a clear yellow. Not really sure how Bennett who has given to many decisions against man utd and sent Ronaldo off twice for nothing is a Manc but whatever you say Puro

If you have been booked early on, mouthed off to the ref 4-5 times since, made 4 fouls since and then run 20 yards to confront the ref again about a nothing issue, do you really have much cause for complaint when you finally get booked again? I could understand his frustration if it was 2-0 near the end and the decisions were all going against Liverpool, but that simply wasnt the case.

So blame Mascherano for ruining the game Puro.

L r d wrote:But what were Liverpool and Mascherano upset about in the first place? what decisions had gone against them?
Maybe the Torres yellow was harsh but apart from that......

What Gerrard said wasnt really bad or worth a yellow, but again how was Bennett taking the piss in terms of decisions?

Mascherano first tackle was a yellow in any country, it was early in the game and sometimes refs let these go purely due to that, but it was a clear yellow. Not really sure how Bennett who has given to many decisions against man utd and sent Ronaldo off twice for nothing is a Manc but whatever you say Puro

If you have been booked early on, mouthed off to the ref 4-5 times since, made 4 fouls since and then run 20 yards to confront the ref again about a nothing issue, do you really have much cause for complaint when you finally get booked again? I could understand his frustration if it was 2-0 near the end and the decisions were all going against Liverpool, but that simply wasnt the case.

So blame Mascherano for ruining the game Puro.

LRD - don't even bite the bate, whatever somebody thinks about the second yellow card, if Mascherano didn't make the referee make a decision (particularly after the hysteria with A.Cole's tackle) then he wouldn't have been sent off.

There is no debate in my book, he made one bad tackle - got booked, his consistant ear biting, got him sent off. The referee IMO was absolutely correct.

Football Genius wrote:The referee IMO was absolutely correct.

There shouldn't even be a debate, Masch was being a fucking idiot and deserved to go.

Kimbo wrote:
How can you disagree with that sending off? I can't stand Bennett or the Manx, but both yellow cards were well deserved. Get a grip Puro!

I wasn't disagreeing with the sending off. Mascherano EARNED his second yellow and the eventual red card. Mascherano was really pissed off for his first yellow (highly questionable to say the least, strong challenge but FAIR, NO STUDS!), and I understood his reasoning. Bennet was doing his part to condition the game for the Mancs' win. What's best for the league? The Mancs winning the league or Arsenal winning the league? The league went global a while ago, but you see how some people hate Arsenal just because Wenger fields the best players irrespective of nationalities.

Grant tried to do the same at Chelsea, and he got death threats. Now a Copa América champion with Brasil has to make way for the captain who led England to elimination from Euro '08.

L r d wrote:But what were Liverpool and Mascherano upset about in the first place? what decisions had gone against them?
Maybe the Torres yellow was harsh but apart from that......

What Gerrard said wasnt really bad or worth a yellow, but again how was Bennett taking the piss in terms of decisions?

Mascherano first tackle was a yellow in any country, it was early in the game and sometimes refs let these go purely due to that, but it was a clear yellow. Not really sure how Bennett who has given to many decisions against man utd and sent Ronaldo off twice for nothing is a Manc but whatever you say Puro

If you have been booked early on, mouthed off to the ref 4-5 times since, made 4 fouls since and then run 20 yards to confront the ref again about a nothing issue, do you really have much cause for complaint when you finally get booked again? I could understand his frustration if it was 2-0 near the end and the decisions were all going against Liverpool, but that simply wasnt the case.

So blame Mascherano for ruining the game Puro.

Yeah, he was a c**t for getting sent off he asked for it, but I understand why he was so fucking mad with Bennett.

Puro wrote:

Kimbo wrote:
How can you disagree with that sending off? I can't stand Bennett or the Manx, but both yellow cards were well deserved. Get a grip Puro!

Bennet was doing his part to condition the game for the Mancs' win. What's best for the league? The Mancs winning the league or Arsenal winning the league? The league went global a while ago, but you see how some people hate Arsenal just because Wenger fields the best players irrespective of nationalities.

So your saying there is a conspiracy against Arsenal to deny them to win the league?, you are hilarious Arsenal is to blame for their recent form, not the Referees and not the FA, only Arsenal.

Puro wrote:That fucking c**t Bennet fucked Liverpool. That fucking Manc was on a mission from the get go conditioning Mascherano (L'pool's engine) for the duration of the game.

In a game this evenly matched, where little details decide the outcome, that's where the game was tilted. Most fans won't even be aware of how Mascherano's first yellow was HUGE. After that the Argentinian was running with his hands tied behind his back, crippling Liverpool. I KNOW that, and Mascherano knows that. That's why he and Rafa were fuming. That Fucking Manc Bennet RUINED this great match. Ferguson's got long arms in the league.

There's always next season!

simple answer really, bennett wasthe one who man ure were compiling a dossier on cos of all his sh¡te decisions against them, then suddenly his first game at OT and he gifts them a goal which was offisde and sends of mascha for not a lot