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    Post by Ä Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:30 pm

    from Simon Barnes in The Times

    March 28, 2008

    David Beckham is a poser, self-publicist and first-rate prat. So why do we still love him?

    How come we don't hate David Beckham? Why is it that our national love of David Beckham is not even a matter for debate? How come you hardly ever meet a dissenter? It's not as though there aren't grounds.

    I was in the pub the other night, discussing, since you ask, wildlife conservation in northern Paraguay. But at the bar, it was all football. What did I think about England's match tomorrow? I mean, 100 caps, he deserves it, doesn't he? All he's done. That penalty against Argentina. Above all, that free kick against Greece. Great man.

    And off we went, a review of favourite Beckham moments, and the conversation continued long after I was back at my table talking about hyacinth macaws and jaguars. Not a dissenting voice: Beckham is great, and 100 caps is the least he deserves.

    That's not the sort of thing you hear in the press-box. True, most laptop-carrying cynics moderate their tone in print, but not my old friend James Lawton from The Independent. Lawton, not a man known for his reticence, has pursued Beckham with extraordinary vigour throughout his career: if Beckham wins a knighthood, it could only be for his services to the art of self-promotion, while his crowning achievement of Wednesday night is “a Mickey Mouse milestone”.

    Lawton's harrying of Beckham is based on sporting logic, as he sees it. It also involves a soul-deep opposition of temperament. Beckham stands for a million things Lawton despises. But Lawton is not one of many. He's a lone voice. Why is there not a substantial following of these views? Why aren't they the views of the majority?

    Why don't we all think Beckham is a prat? It's certainly not because he isn't one. He is a lot of other things as well, but, normally, any public figure with the slightest tendency to pratishness is subjected to merciless vituperation. Count that double if you are a footballer.

    Take haircuts. It has been suggested that a true measure of Beckham's contribution to the England team is not 100 caps, but 100 haircuts. Normally, any sporting figure who adopts an out-of-the-way haircut will get taunted for it till the end of time.

    David Seaman's ponytail was an instant national joke, but Beckham's taste for a coiffeur of infinite variety is accepted everywhere as an essential part of the man.

    Then there is all the prattish self-exposure. How can we not hate a guy who flashes his crotch at us from every bus in his capacity as knickers-salesman? Beckham looks more concentrated on the tackle in these posters than he ever does on the pitch: but it doesn't worry us. Everybody still thinks he's great.

    Then there is that absurd wife, Relatively Posh, as Brian Glanville has called her, more than once I believe. She has achieved the status of national joke, without any question: but somehow Beckham rises above it all. You'd have thought that a man so flagrantly uxorious, so blatantly pussy-whipped, would become a laughing-stock in turn: but this has not happened.

    Then there is the gay icon stuff. The societies of both football players and hardcore football supporters are notoriously homocentric and homophobic. Yet Beckham, posing frequently in an ostentatiously homoerotic manner, has somehow failed to alienate either of these demanding societies.

    There is plenty of ammunition for Beckham-hating even if we turn to pure football. Some blame him for England's defeat by Brazil in the World Cup quarter-finals of 2002, when he jumped out of a tackle in the move that led to Rivaldo's equalising goal.

    His penalty-taking has been a disaster. He missed two in the European Championship of 2004, one of them when England were on the verge of a famous victory against France. He had earlier missed one in a crucial qualifier for the same tournament, in Turkey, and yet another when England went out of Euro 2004, against Portugal.

    Beckham has consistently been a disappointment at the highest level. He never fulfilled his stated ambition of becoming the greatest footballer in the world. He was never able to take control of an international match against top opposition, never able to make the jump from very good to great. He was nowhere near as good as the other 100-cap-wearers, Billy Wright, Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Peter Shilton.

    If we are going to pursue a course of strict sporting logic, we have to say that David Beckham is a footballer who has failed. He is a prat of the first water, a self-publicist who does things calculated to alienate his core audience, a leader who loved the title of leader more than the practice of leadership, and, at base, a man who was unable to take England beyond a certain level because of a sense of vertigo: because, when it really counted, he consistently suffered from a failure of nerve, a failure summed up for ever by that penalty kick in Portugal, where, as the great leader taking the first kick in the shoot-out, he sent the ball spiralling high into the Portuguese night and English hopes down to the bowels of the earth.

    But we are not logical. There are other, equally real parts of Beckham: and it is to those that most people respond. Ah yes, that game against Greece! Wonderful entirely, but for God's sake, it was seven years ago.

    But so what? Beckham has his place in national affections and it is not to be shifted. The allure of Beckham's story stays with us. It begins with the tale of his sending-off in the 1998 World Cup finals, his status as national villain, hanged in effigy in his sarong. But then comes his redemption: how he stayed in England, faced the booing and the hating, took Manchester United to their glorious treble the next year, and then came the return match against Argentina, in the World Cup of 2002, in which Beckham scored the only goal, and it seemed, for a moment, that all the harms and unkindnesses and injustices of the world had been healed with one strike of that famous right foot.

    In Beckham's fall and his rising again, we all see something of ourselves, for we all know hardship and all would love to rise above it with such courage, in such triumph: we, too, would have run at the photographers, arms extended, to tell the world: you can't bloody well destroy me.

    And along with the mesmeric qualities of the tale, there is the nature of Beckham himself. He's a nice chap. You can't get away from that. There is a decency, a loyalty, an honesty about him. He's not nasty, he does his best, he tries constantly to do the right thing. There is a transparency about him, a complete absence of deviousness.

    People feel comfortable with these homely virtues. They are not exceptional, he is not a saint; but perhaps that's the point. He has made himself an exotic figure, with his exotic photographs and his exotic wife and his exotic talents: but behind all this is the most extraordinary ordinariness.

    Beckham has given the world all kinds of reason to despise him and they simply haven't worked. Cynicism, prejudice and even logic have had no chance. The beauty of Beckham's story and the decency of his nature have been too much. ""

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    Post by Ä Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:51 pm

    and THIS is for Puro, our American soccer expert who had high hopes Becks could lift the sport into the megaleague in the USA

    American dream fades as Beckham's Galaxy stare into a black hole

    With crowds down and his team struggling, a tough second season for the MLS's 'ambassador' begins today

    Lawrence Donegan in Los Angeles
    Saturday March 29, 2008
    The Guardian


    Times change but perhaps not as dramatically in some corners of this wonderful world as they have at the Home Depot Center, home of the Los Angeles Galaxy, where once there was confetti, screaming fans and 600 journalists (with another 600 locked out) and where now there is a party of bored school kids from Honolulu, a handful of hacks and the urgent yells of professional footballers trying to impress a new manager on the training pitch.


    It is a baking hot morning in Carson, California, and David Beckham is still making his way back from Paris after his 100th appearance in an England shirt, leaving his Galaxy team-mates to get on with the business at hand - preparing for their opening fixture of the 2008 season, against the Colorado Rapids in Denver later today, and defending the marriage between football's most famous player and the United States' 11th most popular spectator sport, Major League Soccer.
    Eight months have passed since the Englishman was introduced as the Galaxy's new signing, during which time he has found his place in Hollywood's celebrity firmament, spent most of his much-hyped first season sidelined by injury and, finally, to his enormous credit, fought his way back into the England side despite a chronic lack of match practice and widespread scepticism that he had anything left to offer at international level. What he has not done, however, is turn his American dream into an irrefutable success.

    On the field, Beckham's first season was a disastrous one for Galaxy, the perennial powerhouse of American soccer yet which failed to make the MLS play-offs. But his arrival boosted the commercial income of both club and league, with ticket sales up and Beckham strips reportedly selling better than those of any other single athlete in the US, although such reports are extremely difficult to verify.

    "Obviously, David's injury was very disappointing but in every other aspect [his move to the MLS] has been an outstanding success. There is not a soccer fan in the world who does not know who the LA Galaxy are," says Ivan Gazidis, the league's deputy commissioner. "In terms of who David is and how he conducts himself - his demeanour and his attitude - he has been an outstanding success. As we go into the second year of this we will be looking for him to make a similar impact on the field as he does in these other areas."

    The convergence Gazidis seeks might come around quicker than he thinks and for reasons not entirely to his liking. While it is clear that a fully fit Beckham will be a star performer in the league, it seems equally clear the initial interest in MLS generated by his arrival has faded, in which case so will the commercial benefits of having him around.

    The Galaxy's pre-season tour to Asia enjoyed mixed reviews, with poor attendances at some of the matches. More worryingly, the American website SportsBusiness Daily reported that the club's season-ticket sales have fallen by 15% from last year - the largest drop for any team in the league. The Rapids declared today's match at the 18,000-capacity Dicks Sporting Goods Stadium to be a sell-out yet a call to the club's ticket office produced four tickets for good seats behind one of the goals. Likewise, visitors to the Galaxy's website yesterday were able to buy tickets for 10 adjoining seats for the club's first home match against San Jose next Wednesday. Not even the most imaginative marketing department could spin these anecdotes into an unalloyed triumph.

    Still, such realities would be harder to bear if Beckham's contract really was worth $250m (£125m), as was claimed when he agreed to move to the States. It now seems that figure was wildly exaggerated, at least from the perspective of the Galaxy who are, in fact, paying him $6m a year - a lot of money, obviously, but in the context of American professional sport it is no more than average. It is, for instance, just 20% of what Alex Rodriguez receives a year from the New York Yankees.

    "The dollars and cents of the deal added up a long time ago," says Alexi Lalas, Galaxy's general manager, indicating the club have already recouped the entire value of Beckham's contract from the commercial windfall that blew in with his arrival. "There was always a method behind any perceived madness on our part about the economics of this thing. We continue to see a big return in our investment in terms of actual income and also on the brand of the Galaxy, and the impact that has on the value of the asset."

    Maybe so, but it is hard to over-estimate the damage to the value of the asset, and to Beckham's credibility in the eyes of the average American sports fan, if Galaxy were to endure another miserable season. There have been claims both that Lalas's job is at risk and that the club are for sale. Both rumours have been denied but what is undeniable is the club, now managed by Ruud Gullit, are under enormous pressure to succeed this season.

    Beckham has proved to be immensely popular with his team-mates, who have found him to be both personally approachable and professionally committed. Yet they are looking for him to deliver in the season that lies ahead. "He has fitted in extremely well," says Pete Vagenas, a midfielder who is entering his eighth year with the club. "Everyone has asked me if it has been a big adjustment for having him around, with all the hoopla. Actually, I think it is more of an adjustment for him.

    "I've been here a long time, I know what to expect and, whether he would admit it or not, it has been difficult for him, especially the way Americans view soccer. We are not front page news any more. But that is a good thing, it means there is a greater focus on what we really need to do - win the championship."
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:09 am

    Agenda Ale

    Beckham never had pace like Ronaldo but what Beckham was, was efficent, in his glory years he could ping a ball to the same place 9 times out of ten. + People have heard about his stories when he was younger, how he used to practice every day with that tire.

    He was never as talented as Bobby Charlton or Bobby More, 2 of the greatest English players of all time, but Beckham had the work ethic to be great,
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:40 am

    Why do the Americans love him? he's only played in like five matches.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:52 am

    A poor mans Massimo Oddo
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:16 am

    I don't like oddo because he basically ranaway from lazio.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:50 am

    Di Caniooooo! wrote:I don't like oddo because he basically ranaway from lazio.

    He bit the hand that fed him. We even made him captain yet he still seemed very keen to go to Milan.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:08 am

    I think it's his wife, and the fact that he left United. But we don't tend to hate Scholes or Giggs either. At least I don't. And maybe we have better reason to.

    It's difficult to hate someone who tries, and although it's easy to hate anyone who over achieves, the English like our public figures to show their working out, it's why we prefer Keegan over Hoddle and Robbie over Gary. Maybe it can't be summed up, but Beckham took his punishment on the chin - served his time if you will, there's no equation that sums it up, it's a mixture of stiff upper lip, desire and above all, a strong chin Ale
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:19 am

    Reason why people like Beckham? Simple -

    Post 1998 he was a public hate figure, but instead of whinging about it, he got his head down and became integral to Man united's Treble success, most importantly that CL success. No doubt from 1999- 2001 Beckham's crossing was so good it was near impossible to defend.

    He then did it again at madrid when Capello dropped him and told him he would never play for Madrid again. Beckham didnt complain like Lehmann for example- simply got his head down and worked his arse off. In the end he became undroppable and an integral part of Madrid's La liga winning side.

    People respect hard workers and character. Beckham might be a pretty boy, but he works his socks off in everything he does, shows great dedication and rarely complains.

    For that, he deserves to be respected
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    Post by gone Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:27 am

    BoBo Vieri 3-2 wrote:
    Di Caniooooo! wrote:I don't like oddo because he basically ranaway from lazio.

    He bit the hand that fed him. We even made him captain yet he still seemed very keen to go to Milan.

    Oddo played in the Milan youth system. Of course he wanted to return home.
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    Post by Allez les rouges Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:42 am

    Errr, Rooney, Ferdinand, Terry, Neville, Cashley, Owen, Frank Gerrard, Steven Lampard –

    I wonder why Beckham is liked? scratch

    The article answers its own question in the last three paragraphs (without even listing the footballing reasons, where God knows Beckham's record is equally more deserving of respect than his English colleagues), so it's a bit perplexing as to why anyone would feel the need to repeat it ok
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    Post by dont panic! Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:49 am

    because hes a nice guy despite his fame and fortune (unlike kahn....the only current german footballer who has had a career thats remotely comparable..)

    quite simple really...

    by the way..its not just english people who like him...

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