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Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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- Post n°1
Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/02/david-beckham-la-galaxy-landon-donovan
Romford Pele- Number of posts : 18652
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- Post n°2
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Sour grapes maybe?
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
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- Post n°3
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
I think he's absolutely fair in everything he says. Probably only made a mistake by saying it while he (and Beckham) are still teammates, because it will create tension in the dressing room and on the pitch.
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- Post n°4
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
kas wrote:I think he's absolutely fair in everything he says. Probably only made a mistake by saying it while he (and Beckham) are still teammates, because it will create tension in the dressing room and on the pitch.
Really? Suggesting that Beckham doesn't train or play hard? If there is one thing that Beckham does is work hard.
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
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- Post n°5
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Well I meant more the parts about the lack of commitment Beckham has shown to LA Galaxy.
Football Genius- Number of posts : 7743
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- Post n°6
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
He has a certain point - the fact that Beckham's priority is to attach himself to a European club to be in contention for a World Cup place next summer.
However this article smacks of jealousy, Beckham is the consumate professional, trains hard, plays hard.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham earns more than him? in his own words yes.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham has top European clubs interested in his services, almost certainly yes.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham is more famous than he? being a hot shot striker, no doubt he desires the limelight, then yes.
The quicker Beckham can leave the joke league behind him, the better.
The one thing i agree on, is that Beckham's heart wants to be elsewhere, however in the meantime you can bet your bottom dollar he'll give 100% to the cause.
Donovan :bitter:
However this article smacks of jealousy, Beckham is the consumate professional, trains hard, plays hard.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham earns more than him? in his own words yes.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham has top European clubs interested in his services, almost certainly yes.
Is Donovan jealous that Beckham is more famous than he? being a hot shot striker, no doubt he desires the limelight, then yes.
The quicker Beckham can leave the joke league behind him, the better.
The one thing i agree on, is that Beckham's heart wants to be elsewhere, however in the meantime you can bet your bottom dollar he'll give 100% to the cause.
Donovan :bitter:
SuperMario- Number of posts : 16866
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
The fact that he opted to play for LA Galaxy to me signalled that to him other things are more important than football. Which is a pity, because he can still play some decent footy.
In general I think Donovan should adress problems internally.
In general I think Donovan should adress problems internally.
Pierre Littbarski- Number of posts : 12424
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- Post n°8
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Beckham is a grossly ignorant, narcissistic c**t who has repeatedly let down his country.
Luckily for him approx 90% of England's male population have a homoerotic fixation with him and his failures are overlooked.
Eg - players like Pearce and Waddle are famous for one pen miss - Beckham has bottled the 4 biggest pens he has taken for his country (Turkey, Portugal, France and Argentina*) but is called a hero 'cos of one free kick v Greece.
* Typical of him to insist he meant to put it down the middle when its an obvious fluke.
Luckily for him approx 90% of England's male population have a homoerotic fixation with him and his failures are overlooked.
Eg - players like Pearce and Waddle are famous for one pen miss - Beckham has bottled the 4 biggest pens he has taken for his country (Turkey, Portugal, France and Argentina*) but is called a hero 'cos of one free kick v Greece.
* Typical of him to insist he meant to put it down the middle when its an obvious fluke.
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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- Post n°9
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Well lets not forget he also scored a penalty against Turkey right?
Argentina he scored so to call it a bottle job is ridiculous he decided to smash it. Portugal and France i guess you could say so but at the end of the day he was never a penalty taker at any club he has been at. And he did truely slip on one fo them so you know not a bottle job on that occasion, why would eh choose to take the penalty if he was bottling it?
Argentina he scored so to call it a bottle job is ridiculous he decided to smash it. Portugal and France i guess you could say so but at the end of the day he was never a penalty taker at any club he has been at. And he did truely slip on one fo them so you know not a bottle job on that occasion, why would eh choose to take the penalty if he was bottling it?
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
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- Post n°10
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
De Guzman wrote:The fact that he opted to play for LA Galaxy to me signalled that to him other things are more important than football. Which is a pity, because he can still play some decent footy.
In general I think Donovan should adress problems internally.
No doubt, one has to wonder how bad the situation is for Donovan to vent his frustration. The guy hates losing. Everyone who knows Donovan will tell you he's a disciplined hard working player who HAD NEVER said anything negative about other colleagues. I'm shock he blasted Becks not that Becks doesn't deserve to be finally blasted by a teammate, but because it was Donovan who came out to say it. That just shows you how bad it is.
It's no secret the team plays lots better without Beckham as he just gives the fucking ball away time and again. Every 'franchise' player for example Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Claudio López, Barros-Schelotto, Emilio Luciano, JP Angel etc. etc has helped his club, has made his team better EXCEPT Beckham.
The media in England continues with its ignorance calling the MLS a "Mickey Mouse" league, but the bottom 14 teams in the EPL have nothing on the MLS teams. True story! I know some will be shocked, but EPL teams #7 down to #20 are comparable to the MLS group. You think they will not beat the Portsmouths, the Hulls, the West Hams, Fulhams, Stokes...of the EPL?
The truth is that Beckham couldn't cut it in the MLS. Over here is about possession and he can't pass, he gives it away. Ask Donovan!
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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- Post n°11
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Danny Dichio, Puro, Danny Dichio.
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
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- Post n°12
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Forlán Kimbo Forlán, Kanouté Kimbo Kanouté, Verón Kimbo Verón, Shevchenko Kimbo Sheva.Kimbo wrote:Danny Dichio, Puro, Danny Dichio.
Becks has totally SUCKED in the MLS! Dichio HASN'T!
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Puro wrote:Forlán Kimbo Forlán, Kanouté Kimbo Kanouté, Verón Kimbo Verón, Shevchenko Kimbo Sheva.Kimbo wrote:Danny Dichio, Puro, Danny Dichio.
Becks has totally SUCKED in the MLS! Dichio HASN'T!
I'm not one for defending Beckham, but why do you think he has failed? Is he not talented enough, after being a success in England, Spain, and arguably Italy? Maybe he just moved to LA for the money and to get his wife a reality show? Maybe he turns up to training and for games, takes a look at jokers like Donovan and whatever other randoms they have there and thinks to himself "fuck, i wish i was in Milan right now"? Maybe, just maybe.
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Pierre Littbarski wrote:Beckham is a grossly ignorant, narcissistic c**t who has repeatedly let down his country.
Luckily for him approx 90% of England's male population have a homoerotic fixation with him and his failures are overlooked.
Eg - players like Pearce and Waddle are famous for one pen miss - Beckham has bottled the 4 biggest pens he has taken for his country (Turkey, Portugal, France and Argentina*) but is called a hero 'cos of one free kick v Greece.
* Typical of him to insist he meant to put it down the middle when its an obvious fluke.
France and Turkey were misses. Portugal you can see the problem with the ground around the penalty spot. You're right about Argentina.
Still, he did kick Simeone, which makes him a hero to me any day.
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Stimulus Package wrote:
Still, he did kick Simeone, which makes him a hero to me any day.
If you want to kick someone do it hard... not as sissy like Beckham...
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Beckham has cost England no doubt. But people love him because he does give everything he has tried his best and he was unfairly treated by some managers and many fans for a long period. But he got on with it and returned to play very well time and time again. How can you not respect a man who's won so many caps for such a country in this day and age. IMO it's his destiny to win the world cup.
Puro- Number of posts : 10679
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Kimbo wrote:
I'm not one for defending Beckham, but why do you think he has failed? Is he not talented enough, after being a success in England, Spain, and arguably Italy? Maybe he just moved to LA for the money and to get his wife a reality show? Maybe he turns up to training and for games, takes a look at jokers like Donovan and whatever other randoms they have there and thinks to himself "fuck, i wish i was in Milan right now"? Maybe, just maybe.
The bar is set really really low for an Englander playing abroad. Just playing games as starter constitutes SUCCESS in your eyes FFS! Ask them Milan fans how the team IMMEDIATELY cranked it up, started playing much better when Beckham was taken out of the games.
Admittedly your man had a good run of games late in his last season playing for Real Madrid- 5 to 7 matches- (in 4 seasons!), but then the title was gonna be lost in the last game of the season. He was REPLACED AND REAL MADRID IMMEDIATELY came back to win the game and the title with José Antonio Reyes of all people coming on for him!
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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- Post n°18
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Puro wrote:Kimbo wrote:
I'm not one for defending Beckham, but why do you think he has failed? Is he not talented enough, after being a success in England, Spain, and arguably Italy? Maybe he just moved to LA for the money and to get his wife a reality show? Maybe he turns up to training and for games, takes a look at jokers like Donovan and whatever other randoms they have there and thinks to himself "fuck, i wish i was in Milan right now"? Maybe, just maybe.
The bar is set really really low for an Englander playing abroad. Just playing games as starter constitutes SUCCESS in your eyes FFS! Ask them Milan fans how the team IMMEDIATELY cranked it up, started playing much better when Beckham was taken out of the games.
Puro every Milan fan on here has done nothing but praise Beckham. And a few of them didn't rate him or like him before the move
Kimbo- Number of posts : 38171
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Puro wrote:Kimbo wrote:
I'm not one for defending Beckham, but why do you think he has failed? Is he not talented enough, after being a success in England, Spain, and arguably Italy? Maybe he just moved to LA for the money and to get his wife a reality show? Maybe he turns up to training and for games, takes a look at jokers like Donovan and whatever other randoms they have there and thinks to himself "fuck, i wish i was in Milan right now"? Maybe, just maybe.
The bar is set really really low for an Englander playing abroad. Just playing games as starter constitutes SUCCESS in your eyes FFS! Ask them Milan fans how the team IMMEDIATELY cranked it up, started playing much better when Beckham was taken out of the games.
Admittedly your man had a good run of games late in his last season playing for Real Madrid- 5 to 7 matches- (in 4 seasons!), but then the title was gonna be lost in the last game of the season. He was REPLACED AND REAL MADRID IMMEDIATELY came back to win the game and the title with José Antonio Reyes of all people coming on for him!
His reviews on here were pretty good.
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Ricardo Wetzel wrote:Stimulus Package wrote:
Still, he did kick Simeone, which makes him a hero to me any day.
If you want to kick someone do it hard... not as sissy like Beckham...
I wasn't being serious. If you're going to kick someone, you might as well do a Keane.
Nonetheless, for all Beckham was idolised and hyped by the British press and a fair few fans he was a very good footballer, at least for a while, and remains a pretty good footballer even into his mid 30s. Awful choice of wife, naturally, but no one's saying he was John Kennedy.
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
L-r d wrote:Beckham has cost England no doubt. But people love him because he does give everything he has tried his best and he was unfairly treated by some managers and many fans for a long period. But he got on with it and returned to play very well time and time again. How can you not respect a man who's won so many caps for such a country in this day and age. IMO it's his destiny to win the world cup.
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Puro wrote:De Guzman wrote:The fact that he opted to play for LA Galaxy to me signalled that to him other things are more important than football. Which is a pity, because he can still play some decent footy.
In general I think Donovan should adress problems internally.
No doubt, one has to wonder how bad the situation is for Donovan to vent his frustration. The guy hates losing. Everyone who knows Donovan will tell you he's a disciplined hard working player who HAD NEVER said anything negative about other colleagues. I'm shock he blasted Becks not that Becks doesn't deserve to be finally blasted by a teammate, but because it was Donovan who came out to say it. That just shows you how bad it is.
It's no secret the team plays lots better without Beckham as he just gives the fucking ball away time and again. Every 'franchise' player for example Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Claudio López, Barros-Schelotto, Emilio Luciano, JP Angel etc. etc has helped his club, has made his team better EXCEPT Beckham.
The media in England continues with its ignorance calling the MLS a "Mickey Mouse" league, but the bottom 14 teams in the EPL have nothing on the MLS teams. True story! I know some will be shocked, but EPL teams #7 down to #20 are comparable to the MLS group. You think they will not beat the Portsmouths, the Hulls, the West Hams, Fulhams, Stokes...of the EPL?
The truth is that Beckham couldn't cut it in the MLS. Over here is about possession and he can't pass, he gives it away. Ask Donovan!
I wish when I was born I rooted for the US...I've lived in Mexico but I'm also American
Unfortunately I root for Mexico and we fucking suck
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Puro wrote:De Guzman wrote:The fact that he opted to play for LA Galaxy to me signalled that to him other things are more important than football. Which is a pity, because he can still play some decent footy.
In general I think Donovan should adress problems internally.
No doubt, one has to wonder how bad the situation is for Donovan to vent his frustration. The guy hates losing. Everyone who knows Donovan will tell you he's a disciplined hard working player who HAD NEVER said anything negative about other colleagues. I'm shock he blasted Becks not that Becks doesn't deserve to be finally blasted by a teammate, but because it was Donovan who came out to say it. That just shows you how bad it is.
It's no secret the team plays lots better without Beckham as he just gives the fucking ball away time and again. Every 'franchise' player for example Cuauhtemoc Blanco, Claudio López, Barros-Schelotto, Emilio Luciano, JP Angel etc. etc has helped his club, has made his team better EXCEPT Beckham.
The media in England continues with its ignorance calling the MLS a "Mickey Mouse" league, but the bottom 14 teams in the EPL have nothing on the MLS teams. True story! I know some will be shocked, but EPL teams #7 down to #20 are comparable to the MLS group. You think they will not beat the Portsmouths, the Hulls, the West Hams, Fulhams, Stokes...of the EPL?
The truth is that Beckham couldn't cut it in the MLS. Over here is about possession and he can't pass, he gives it away. Ask Donovan!
I don't think so
New England got smashed 6-1 on aggregate in the CONCACAF Champion's League against some Trinitarian Club
blutgraetsche- Number of posts : 23328
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
The press reports that Beckham almost had a fight with the Galaxy fans.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=661813&sec=global&cc=5739
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=661813&sec=global&cc=5739
christmasborocooper- Number of posts : 39348
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
"Is evil something u are...or something u do?''
What kind of banner is that?
What kind of banner is that?
Aristoskank- Number of posts : 9733
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
A profound one.
L r dd- Number of posts : 12451
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- Post n°27
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Beckham is not gonna take any of that nonsense. Settle down or he'll kick you out of his stadium himself. I reckon they'll win the play offs then he'll call it a day.
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaybG5fzcpo
Historicus- Number of posts : 943
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- Post n°29
Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
Haha, the Milan players are just like "wtf?"
Also, that game wasn't shown live for some reason
Also, that game wasn't shown live for some reason
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Re: Donovan: Becks is bad teammate
is Beckham cracking up?
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