Is Rooney World Class?

before anyone starts having a go. I'm not a Man U fan in the slightest and not English either.
I do think he is one of the most exciting and talented players out there at the moment. He should definitely be in there. He is a match decider, and IMHO a better player than for example Riquelme.

Has great vision, a subtle touch for such a big man, great physique, speed, goals, passes, assists, breaks open games with a touch of genius. He has it all.

The only question is: is it too early?

And again, someone will have to explain to me how to make a poll out of it.

When you start writing the post, below the text box, there is the poll section - you just fill that bit out if you want to do a poll... its pretty simple

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Rooney is not World Class yet but IMO he's very close.

A good season in the CL and in my eyes he will be (by good I mean semi finals and scoring and assisting through - say 5 goals, 5 assists)

my point from yesterday that obispo wouldn´t have this will prob be v close as most of the mancs will vote yes

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:my point from yesterday that obispo wouldn´t have this will prob be v close as most of the mancs will vote yes

bet you it isnt frank.. it will be a landslide no

yeah poss cos all the scousers will vote no

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:yeah poss cos all the scousers will vote no

or because most people think he isnt WC...

frankie frankie frankie... u are sounding slightly disturbed these days

maybe in a couple of years he he will be
lets leave him alone and mature on his own

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:my point from yesterday that obispo wouldn´t have this will prob be v close as most of the mancs will vote yes

No, not yet.

Still great to watch though and he has the potential to be.

*Expect mass abuse for Rooney and complete generalising again.*

No rush, not yet.

His best season so far this season (that includes big games in the CL) and maybe he is. Very close.

nice to see a few man utd fans being sensible unlike the scouse loving gerrard contingent

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:nice to see a few man utd fans being sensible unlike the scouse loving gerrard contingent

im worried for your sanity frank... that's a rather large chip on your shoulder

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:scouse loving gerrard contingent

That'll be me then

COTE gerrard slightly ahead of rooney but imho neither a WC yet on the premice that its the top 25 players, too many seem to have forgotten how bad english players were in the WC when they didn´t have foreign imports to help them out. English footballers are not as good as many would like to believe

are there really 17 scousers on this board frankie????

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:COTE gerrard slightly ahead of rooney

For club its debatable, probably Gerrard is in front.

For country its not even close, Rooney is alot more important.

If Rooney isn't World class, then imo Gerrard isn't World class either.

0 goal 0 assist rooney for england... (thank you otto) .. gets sent off at the worst possible moment.. yep he is awesome

the polls been done lads... gerrard's been voted on by the majority

there must be at least 7 or 8 scousers along with a few english numpties and voila

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:there must be at least 7 or 8 scousers along with a few english numpties and voila

nothing worse than a sore loser frankie... do you really need me to fetch your quote stating how you would accept the result of the poll... surely not...

i accept the result can´t change that still think its bloody wrong though

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:i accept the result can´t change that still think its bloody wrong though

plenty of evidence above to prove you havent accepted it frank.... stop digging

let's be honest. There IS a lot of bias in the voting system. How come Xabi Alonso got so many votes? Is he really better than Lampard? How come the football pundits don't see that? Or for that matter, the coaches, the football critics and such that voted for Lampard in the Golden Ball and Footballer of the Year awards... Or maybe we just think we know best.

well how many new accounts were made?
how pool fans are their?

toon h wrote:let's be honest. There IS a lot of bias in the voting system. How come Xabi Alonso got so many votes? Is he really better than Lampard? How come the football pundits don't see that? Or for that matter, the coaches, the football critics and such that voted for Lampard in the Golden Ball and Footballer of the Year awards... Or maybe we just think we know best.

Alonso got 25 votes, 13 saying yes, 12 saying no.

& there are about 8 Liverpool regulars on here plus 110 %.

I think Alonso is a great player, however not World class for me.

probably not the best example to use toon h with lamps... I personally think alonso has more talent in his little toe than lampard has altogether. most of us spend all day criticising the press/critics so obviously our list is going to differ... the best way to capture all the differing opinions is a poll.. is there bias in it because most of us are from the UK... maybe but i prefer to think most of us are sensible enough to make our own minds up.. the fact that only one english player and 6 from the prem (2 who have never played in it before) have made the list surely shows there is little bias involved although frank here is determined to think otherwise

and who put in Woody in the poll option? Tweedle? Or should I say Tweedy?

parks lives wrote:

toon h wrote:let's be honest. There IS a lot of bias in the voting system. How come Xabi Alonso got so many votes? Is he really better than Lampard? How come the football pundits don't see that? Or for that matter, the coaches, the football critics and such that voted for Lampard in the Golden Ball and Footballer of the Year awards... Or maybe we just think we know best.

Alonso got 25 votes, 13 saying yes, 12 saying no.

& there are about 8 Liverpool regulars on here plus 110 %.

I think Alonso is a great player, however not World class for me.

ditto, very close but wouldn't make a World 23 IMO

for me.not close. good player but there must be 100 good players in the world.

Rooney - no.

Maybe in a few years. As of now he has done nothing of interest at all in the CL (since Fenerbahce). Not very good internationally since Euro2004 either.

toon h wrote:for me.not close. good player but there must be 100 good players in the world.

this comment referred to Xabi Alonso BTW.

Are we going to have this everytime there's a vote?

If a player some people don't like gets in it'll just be "club bias" "silly englanders" etc.

Steven Gerrard has scored in 3 seperate finals. He's captained a Champions League winning side, scoring 2 of the most important goals along the way. He's scored 2 and assisted once in an FA cup final.

...What more do you want from him? So he doesn't perform for England - Funny how England were unbeaten pre-lampard whenever Gerrard played then. Lemmie guess... it was Scholes. It always seems to be on this messageboard

9 goals in 47 England appearences is poor for an attacking midfielder, but how often has he played there? I'm sure most people would be raving about Gattuso or Makelele if they "chipped in with a goal" more than once in every 5 games.

The bitterness and paranoia on this site really worries me. You don't want a player in...so you start a vote. When that goes against you, it's rigged