The EMB World Class List Update

Right, for those of you that remember, we tried to draw up a list of those players that we felt were world class. Seems as its likely to be a slow day, I thought it might be about time to give this list a bit of updating. We left it as:

1. Ronaldinho
2. Ronaldo
3. Deco
4. Riquelme - voted in 20-13
5. Totti
6. Kaka
7. Buffon
8. Cannavaro
9. Thuram
10. Nesta
11. Henry
12. Makelele
13. Shevchenko
14. Cech - voted in 8-2
15. Ballsack
16. Gerrard - voted in 17-12
17. Marquez - voted in 13-6
18. Nedved
19. Xavi
20. Pirlo -voted in 15-10
21. Casillas
22. Eto'o
23. Zambrotta
24. Peter Crouch

Expressly voted out: Adriano (1-19), RVN (8-11), Klose (10-24), Cocu (6-17), Lampard (6-25), Figo (11-14), Vieira (9-13), Xabi Alonso (12-13)

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If you feel a player should be taken off, you can put them up for nomination in a poll thread, likewise you can do this if you want someone added and after three days of voting, the results are taken and the player is either added or taken off the list. The vote obviously has to be as agenda free as possible

Looking at the present list, I think arguements could be made for taking off Cannavaro, Thuram, Henry, Makalele, Shevchenko, Nedved and Peter Crouch

I'm shocked that Drogba wasn't on there! he must be added IMO. Rooney also could possibly argue his corner in this. Scholes and Essien are also musts to be added IMO. Villa could also warrant a spot.

So get suggesting

How in the name of Lucifer did Peter Crouch get onto this list ?

Rai Krol wrote:How in the name of Lucifer did Peter Crouch get onto this list ?

I'm guessing because he was top scorer for that season in all comps. He'd scored about 9 international goals.

to be fair, I kind of think he may still deserve to be there, maybe its just me being a bit sentimental but he has had another impressive season for Liverpool. If you don't want him there, make a poll

Rai Krol wrote:How in the name of Lucifer did Peter Crouch get onto this list ?

2nd top goalscorer in the entire world last year perhaps

I have no idea

Get Scholes and Essien on there. 2 best central midfielders in the premier league, for christ sake.

out - makalele

marquez

in - alves

essien

shevchenko

out out out

drogba in

Crouch over Ibra/Toni/Drogba?? This is ridiculous.

Zambrotta based on this season also doesn't warrant a place in there, though I'm not sure about polling it. the Italian contingent are bound to all vote yes

2. Ronaldo.

Is that Brazilian or Portugese? As if it's Brazilian, then C Ronaldo needs to be included.

Tweedle wrote:

Rai Krol wrote:How in the name of Lucifer did Peter Crouch get onto this list ?

I'm guessing because he was top scorer for that season in all comps. He'd scored about 9 international goals.

to be fair, I kind of think he may still deserve to be there, maybe its just me being a bit sentimental but he has had another impressive season for Liverpool. If you don't want him there, make a poll

No, i'm sorry .. he may have had 'x' amount of goals for England towards the end of last season and the start of this one ..

If Rafa is reluctant to start him in games .. then why should we question him ..

Crouch is a good player dont get me wrong , but he has not reached this 'level' yet ..

btw, the term 'World Class' is used far too much these days , these players are more

i define the term as ' a individual whose own style of play, leadership qualities inspires his team to success whether it be winning trophies or games on a regular basis' some of these players have not been doing this

you could also have 'World Class' players in the BIG games .. i.e. Gerrard + Kaka , 2 to name but a few

bluenine wrote:Crouch over Ibra/Toni/Totti?? This is ridiculous.

Totti is in the list.

Like I said poll the others

Looking at the present list, I think arguments could be made for taking off Cannavaro, Henry


why ???

COTR wrote:Looking at the present list, I think arguments could be made for taking off Cannavaro, Henry


why ???

Both have had poor seasons, although Henry's is a result of injuries. I personally wouldn't take either off but I could see how cases could be made

Parks lives wrote:Get Scholes and Essien on there. 2 best central midfielders in the premier league, for christ sake.

Have to agree with Parky

Based on CL form there's an easy case to make for Seedorf, Gattuso and Alex...

Out

Thuram
Nedved
Crouch
Shevchenko

In

Ibrahimovic
Eissen
Cambiasso
Drogba

Axeslammer wrote:Based on CL form there's an easy case to make for Seedorf...

Thats true, for this year at least he maybe deserves to be there, though I reckon by next summer he'd be off it. He's getting on

So people don't think Messi is world class?

Tweedle wrote:
Expressly voted out: RVN (8-11)

The Horse obviously has declared an Intifaddah on the unbelievers, judging by his 20 goals.....first season in a new league, new language etc.

i don't agree with the term World Class , these are more Influential players

L.r.d wrote:So people don't think Messi is world class?

Toughy.

I think he will be, but presently he's a bit inconsistent. I'd say not quite

Yeah, thats pretty ridiculous too... Marquez out, Messi in!!

But like I showed in the world squad poll on the international MB, you cannot restrict the "world class" list to 23-24 names.... there have to be at least 40 names to do it any justice.

L.r.d wrote:So people don't think Messi is world class?

WC in our league,


Chelsea - Cech, Terry, Carvahilo, Essien, Drogba
Man United - Ferdinand, Scholes, Ronaldo,
Arsenal - Gallas, Henry
Liverpool - Gerrard, Carragher

Don't entirely agree with Carragher and may have Rooney myself but I'll get lynched for either.

Parks lives wrote:WC in our league,


Chelsea - Cech, Terry, Carvahilo, Essien, Drogba
Man United - Ferdinand, Scholes, Ronaldo,
Arsenal - Gallas, Henry
Liverpool - Gerrard, Carragher

Don't entirely agree with Carragher and may have Rooney myself but I'll get lynched for either.

Rooney's case is very tight IMO. After all, he's supposedly had a bad season yet he's scored over 20 goals and been a major assist provider. Statistically he's been great + he's scored a few important goals: 4 in the knockouts of the CL for instance!

Tevez and Berbatov will IMO make 'the list' next season.

I also think we still need Ballack in the World Class list - he hasn't been THAT bad for Chelsea and he's chipped in with a few assists and some great passes more recently

Ballack comes close because you can still see with Germany he's as good as ever. It's just tough based on this season to include him.

Good list

From Serie A, I would pick:

Milan: Kaka, Nesta, Pirlo
Inter: Ibrahimovic, Cambiasso, Zanetti, Stankovic
Roma: Totti, Chivu
Fiorentina: Toni
Juve: Buffon

Tough calls on: Gattuso, De Rossi, Seedorf

Not too sure about Gallas tho, in your list...

Parks lives wrote:WC in our league,


Chelsea - Cech, Terry, Carvahilo, Essien, Drogba
Man United - Ferdinand, Scholes, Ronaldo,
Arsenal - Gallas, Henry
Liverpool - Gerrard, Carragher

Don't entirely agree with Carragher and may have Rooney myself but I'll get lynched for either.

La Liga:

Valencia: Villa, Miguel
Real Madrid: Casillas, Cannavaro(?)
Barcelona: Ronaldinho, Deco, Eto'o
Sevilla: Alves

Serie A:

Inter: Ibra, Cambiasso, Zanetti
Roma: Totti, Chivu(?)
Milan: Seedorf, Kaka, Pirlo, Nesta

???

how the hell has ballack managed to get on that list..whats he done?

dont panic! wrote:how the hell has ballack managed to get on that list..whats he done?

Since then ?

*nothing* !