HomeNo one got booked because it never happened. No players ran towards the ref to have a go and even Rooney bit his lip at the end. The players only showed frustration in there own space. There is a reason the no one else has mentioned it.Sir Les wrote:Luis wrote:How come no United or Arsenal players got booked for constantly surrounding the ref today?
Same way Gerrard didn't get booked for constantly mouthing off at the referee today.
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shazlx- Number of posts : 5564
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shazlx- Number of posts : 5564
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I can't see the emotion/picture (I'm assuming that's what it is).COTR wrote:shazlx wrote:I want to know your answer.COTR wrote:shazlx wrote:Are you being sarcastic? He was easily the best attacking player today. He only lacks end product because Adebayor can't finish 1on1s.COTR wrote:
P.S Hleb was great today shaz
is no the answer you were looking for ?
I gave you my answer mate
What else do you want me to say?
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Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:I hope people cut this Cr@p blaming Wenger for our recent performances.
The players have not been over used! they have played roughly the same amount of games as those from Manu and Chelsea. They are not just performing! our main players(toure, gallas,cesc,hleb,ade) have all been Cr@p, people should stop making excuses for them.
I'm starting to lose faith in this team. Their quality is not in question, it's their attitude and application. This team never learn, they are guilty of making the same mistakes over and again;
we were undone by 2 long balls into the box at stamford bridge, not long after we made the same mistake vs pool and were punished. We conceded straight after we scored Vs pool in the 1st leg of the CL and u thought the players would learn but what happened? they went on to make the same mistake just a week after against the same teamand u saw they did the same Vs Manu today.
They won't win a thing in their career if they continue failing to learn from their mistakes and not doing the basics right( like defending a simple long ball, maximum concentration after going ahead etc)e.
Although had Ade scored just 1 in three of the excellent chances he has been getting we'd have won most of the last 8 games and be in a completely different place.
Or u could also say we'd been going places now had the defenders stopped gifting opponents soft goals. Nothing pisses me off than when i see us scoring a well worked goal(requiring a lot of skill, intelligence, technqiue etc) and then proceed to gift the opposition a goal with them virtually doing nothing for it.
There's no point laying the blame entirely on Ade, everyone is to blame probably bar 2 players(flamini and sagna)
No there have been some bad mistakes in defence as well but my point is we have made enough chances to make them irrelevant.
We have always been a team that misses lots of chances even when Henry was upfront - he was also not clinical.
We score goals in almost every game.
Manu and Chelsea don't score 2 goals away from home and come back empty handed.
That's true but do Chelsea or even Man U play open flowing football away?
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The thing is -if you're that good why not do it when you need to create a goal, why not do it when you're chasing the game or even when you're trying to score another goal. Normally I like tricks but they are only usefull if it advances play not just to show off.Historicus wrote:Rosicky wrote:Big thanks to Hoyte as well at the end for his needless booking, earning Arsenal a fine.
I'd like to see you stand in front of Ronaldo and let him do ball tricks without kicking his foot off.
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Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:I hope people cut this Cr@p blaming Wenger for our recent performances.
The players have not been over used! they have played roughly the same amount of games as those from Manu and Chelsea. They are not just performing! our main players(toure, gallas,cesc,hleb,ade) have all been Cr@p, people should stop making excuses for them.
I'm starting to lose faith in this team. Their quality is not in question, it's their attitude and application. This team never learn, they are guilty of making the same mistakes over and again;
we were undone by 2 long balls into the box at stamford bridge, not long after we made the same mistake vs pool and were punished. We conceded straight after we scored Vs pool in the 1st leg of the CL and u thought the players would learn but what happened? they went on to make the same mistake just a week after against the same team
They won't win a thing in their career if they continue failing to learn from their mistakes and not doing the basics right( like defending a simple long ball, maximum concentration after going ahead etc)e.
Although had Ade scored just 1 in three of the excellent chances he has been getting we'd have won most of the last 8 games and be in a completely different place.
Or u could also say we'd been going places now had the defenders stopped gifting opponents soft goals. Nothing pisses me off than when i see us scoring a well worked goal(requiring a lot of skill, intelligence, technqiue etc) and then proceed to gift the opposition a goal with them virtually doing nothing for it.
There's no point laying the blame entirely on Ade, everyone is to blame probably bar 2 players(flamini and sagna)
No there have been some bad mistakes in defence as well but my point is we have made enough chances to make them irrelevant.
We have always been a team that misses lots of chances even when Henry was upfront - he was also not clinical.
We score goals in almost every game.
Manu and Chelsea don't score 2 goals away from home and come back empty handed.
That's true but do Chelsea or even Man U play open flowing football away?
yes not less adventurous than our most used 4-5-1( forcing someone like RVP to play in a position he doesn't feel comfortable in)
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so over the past 3 weeks Arsenal have been fucked in the arse by Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United.
My question is, why?
My question is, why?
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Er no. Even when we play 451 the FBs will always attack when the have the opportunities. The CBs will attack when the like. I don't like 451 but we don't do it to play defensive - a packed midfield won't stop a long ball (which is the only pass the will consistently kill us). We do it for control . The problem is without Flamini we cannot press and with Eboue we loose significant goal threat.Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:Sir Les wrote:Hlebtastic wrote:I hope people cut this Cr@p blaming Wenger for our recent performances.
The players have not been over used! they have played roughly the same amount of games as those from Manu and Chelsea. They are not just performing! our main players(toure, gallas,cesc,hleb,ade) have all been Cr@p, people should stop making excuses for them.
I'm starting to lose faith in this team. Their quality is not in question, it's their attitude and application. This team never learn, they are guilty of making the same mistakes over and again;
we were undone by 2 long balls into the box at stamford bridge, not long after we made the same mistake vs pool and were punished. We conceded straight after we scored Vs pool in the 1st leg of the CL and u thought the players would learn but what happened? they went on to make the same mistake just a week after against the same team
They won't win a thing in their career if they continue failing to learn from their mistakes and not doing the basics right( like defending a simple long ball, maximum concentration after going ahead etc)e.
Although had Ade scored just 1 in three of the excellent chances he has been getting we'd have won most of the last 8 games and be in a completely different place.
Or u could also say we'd been going places now had the defenders stopped gifting opponents soft goals. Nothing pisses me off than when i see us scoring a well worked goal(requiring a lot of skill, intelligence, technqiue etc) and then proceed to gift the opposition a goal with them virtually doing nothing for it.
There's no point laying the blame entirely on Ade, everyone is to blame probably bar 2 players(flamini and sagna)
No there have been some bad mistakes in defence as well but my point is we have made enough chances to make them irrelevant.
We have always been a team that misses lots of chances even when Henry was upfront - he was also not clinical.
We score goals in almost every game.
Manu and Chelsea don't score 2 goals away from home and come back empty handed.
That's true but do Chelsea or even Man U play open flowing football away?
yes not less adventurous than our most used 4-5-1( forcing someone like RVP to play in a position he doesn't feel comfortable in)
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Glenn Hysén wrote:so over the past 3 weeks Arsenal have been fucked in the arse by Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United.
My question is, why?
Because Wenger likes little kids?
I.e He needs a bigger experienced squad to manage the teams mental failings.
shazlx- Number of posts : 5564
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The defence acting stupid and our best defender in the air has been injured.Glenn Hysén wrote:so over the past 3 weeks Arsenal have been fucked in the arse by Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United.
My question is, why?
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Glenn Hysén wrote:so over the past 3 weeks Arsenal have been fucked in the arse by Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United.
My question is, why?
Mentally fragile. And just not experienced enough. Wenger will solve this problem by signing three 17 yr olds from cardiff, madrid and barca, and stealing two africans off the streets of Nigeria
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shazlx wrote:Yes, when you consider they have been responsible for all the creativity as Eboue is Cr@p and Van Persie and Rosicky are injured. Helb has still been creating open chances and getting fouled in the box. Cesc is still taking the ball to advanced positions with ease only his dangerous balls have letting him down yet he's still making dangerous through balls that a clinical striker should score and still providing goals through set-pieces.Hlebtastic wrote:shazlx wrote:The defence has been Cr@p not the midfield. We still own the midfield even without Flamini when we are tried and manU have Scholes (apparently in good form after being fresh from an injury) and Hargreaves (fresh and just had a great performance vs Roma) and Carrick (in great form). Blame the defence for conceding $h!t goals, giving away penalties, and getting out jumped. Blame Gilberto for continuously giving away freekicks if not the ball. Blame Ade for missing numerous open chances, blame Wenger for the stupid team selection but Hleb and Cesc (and Flamini) have never been overrun by any midfield this season. Hleb was still creating the chances and Cesc was still advancing our play today.Hlebtastic wrote:I hope people cut this Cr@p blaming Wenger for our recent performances.
The players have not been over used! they have played roughly the same amount of games as those from Manu and Chelsea. They are not just performing! our main players(toure, gallas,cesc,hleb,ade) have all been Cr@p
You really think the form of Hleb and Cesc has been acceptable for the past weeks(probably when we needed them most)? They have just been as guilty as giving the ball away or not doing enough in the attacking 3rd.
Shaz, u can defend cesc and hleb all u like but we have all seen them play poorly for almost the entire 2nd half of the season and still counting.
- We don't control the game in crucial moments , midfield( which cointain both of those players) is responsible.
- We have seen them both give the ball away a lot of times
- we have seen them not doing enough in the attacking 3rd unlike earlier in the season - see hleb's failure to control a ball he normally does with ease in the box the other day or cesc missing chances.
- we have also had games were we have lots of possession but hardly create anything(both are responsible here), almost all of our goal the past weeks have come from crosses.
No need picking on players u don't like or blaming Wenger, our main players(toure,gallas,cesc,hleb, ade) have all let us down. Their performances the past weeks is anything but acceptable.
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Puro wrote:L r d wrote:
Puro that was in no way a penalty ffs. Barcelona need to tighten up a lot more than us, so we'll them worry about that
Vidic will be back and the game wont be at such a mental pace as today.
That's why the EPL is the best league in the world Puro, where else will you see a game with so many top players played at that pace? We brought on the worlds best youngster and the 3 time south american player of the year. Incredible quality
We disagree there, and that's cool. If Gallas was a PK, then Rooney's was most definitely.
Barça will go all out in the CL. La Liga is done for them it seems. Messi is back already, and if they convince Ronaldinho to give it a final push for them and leave a winner with another CL trophy...
No matter what, it should be an AWESOME semi final BARCELONA vs Manchester United!
Should be two great occasions. This is what football is about. They could well rise to the challenge and provide a shock. Who knows thats what makes it so great. Ronaldo v Messi the worlds best v the worlds second best.
Any football fan will be watching
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Sheffield gunner wrote:Rosicky wrote:anyone think arsenal can win ?
No. Even if they start well they will run out of steam long before the end.
Is right.
Arsenal were the much better team the first half, they played like they had to win whilst we were unsure how to play it. Worst game I've seen Scholes play in years. Soon as Tevez and Anderson come on we had the upper hand though and I thought we'd win it.
Terrible defending for their goal but van der Sar and Rio both had good games. Certain handball by Adeboyor as well.
Some excellent performances today from both teams - Clichy, Gilberto, Fabregas and Hleb for Arsenal. vdS, Rio, Evra, Hargreaves & Rooney for us. Like how Pique played as well. Both teams pass the ball back to front so well and so quickly which made it a great game.
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All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
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Toure has been poor since ACON.S4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
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Agree with most of that except Song at FBS4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
. Well I'm of for today but I want to leave by saying:
Sebastian Frey
Amazing save after amazing save today. We need this GK.
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S4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
A lot of people on 606 on the radio were saying this about Gallas. I always thought it was a risk - a temperamental player acquired due to a dispute with his previous club, a direct rival. Not the model profile for a captain.
And while he's a very good footballer, he is a bit of a c**t, and doesn't respond well to the failings of his team mates.
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shazlx wrote:Agree with most of that except Song at FBS4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
Well I'm of for today but I want to leave by saying:
Sebastian Frey
Just thinking that he looks quick and agile so he could do a job there.
Get Toure in as captain with Cesc as V-C and move Gallas to RB and I think you'll definitely become more watertight at the back (perhaps bringing Sagna in as CB? He seems to have better positioning and awareness than Gallas and is better in the air).
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Yoda wrote:S4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
A lot of people on 606 on the radio were saying this about Gallas. I always thought it was a risk - a temperamental player acquired due to a dispute with his previous club, a direct rival. Not the model profile for a captain.
And while he's a very good footballer, he is a bit of a c**t, and doesn't respond well to the failings of his team mates.
Like I said - it seems to be Toure (and Cesc to a degree) who rally the troops when the going gets tough and when you really want your captain and main leader to step up.
Personally, I'd have taken the armband off him after the hissy fit at Brum. How Eboue's still playing in midfield beggars belief too. The number of times he'd receive a good pass from Hleb (who I've criticised somewhat recently but I thought he was Arsenal's best player today) yet managed to f@ck up a move due to a) lack of awareness and b) lack of technique is ridiculous.
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DS wrote:Toure has been poor since ACON.S4P wrote:All joking aside I think Arsenal need a new captain next season. Gallas doesn't seem to have the same leadership skills as for example, Ferdinand, Terry or Carragher from the big 4. I think you'd be better off with Toure as captain personally. He seems better at rallying the troops and gets the bit between his teeth for the big games.
Gallas at FB > Gallas at CB too. Why is Wenger playing Toure at RB when you could put Hoyte, Eboue, Song or Gallas there?
Poor in form, but not in leadership imo. That's what Wenger should be looking for.
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Flamini's the one who really rallies the players during games. He is always the one who goes around motivating the players during a break in play moreso than anyone else. Of course he will do that regardless of whether he is captain or not, so it doesn't necessarily mean he should be given the role (and that's if he stays which is debateable).
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Yef wrote:You cant win anything with niggers...or was it kids?
Yids I think.
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Good game today. I thought Arsenal fully controlled things for around 60 or so minutes. very impressed with that but once again they werent effective in their good period. the worst case senario before the game was that they would get behind but even though they took a deserved lead they couldnt hold it with a poor playing man utd side. once again Ronaldo was quiet and i thought Rooney did fine. Evra was also quite good and i thought Tevez had a good impact as soon as he entered.
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Saw this:
here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ys-extratime041308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Hammers fans chanted, “You don’t know what you’re doing” when boss Alan Curbishley replaced youngster Jack Collison with Carlton Cole early in the second half. Storm clouds gathering for Curbs by the sound of it.
here:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=ys-extratime041308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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Yef wrote:You cant win anything with niggers...
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Sir Les wrote:Hans Molemanwrote:
forza_rossi wrote:Glen your avatar is one of the best ive ever seen
I laughed for about 5 minutes straight.
Not a patch on Kimbos
Are you kidding me? It's brilliant! Sure Kimbos are good as well but nothing I've seen of his makes me laugh everytime I see it. This probably sounds sad but Im gonna use it as my Screensaver on my phone.
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Its quite an old one , somebody used it on this board too.Hans MolemanSir Les wrote:Hans Molemanforza_rossi wrote:Glen your avatar is one of the best ive ever seen
I laughed for about 5 minutes straight.
Are you kidding me? It's brilliant! Sure Kimbos are good as well but nothing I've seen of his makes me laugh everytime I see it. This probably sounds sad but Im gonna use it as my Screensaver on my phone.
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The CoolestYef wrote:You cant win anything with niggers...
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1 Petr Cech
5 Michael Essien
33 Alex
26 John Terry (c)
18 Wayne Bridge
13 Michael Ballack
12 John Mikel Obi
8 Frank Lampard
21 Salomon Kalou
39 Nicolas Anelka
15 Florent Malouda
Substitutes: 40 Hilario, 35 Juliano Belletti, 24 Shaun Wright-Phillips, 10 Joe Cole, 7 Andriy Shevchenko.
-----------Cech
Essien--Alex--Terry--Bridge
-----------Mikel
------Ballack--Lampard
Kalou----Anelka----Malouda
Why is Cech playing?
You'd have thought Grant would've learnt from the Villa game about the risk in playing injured goalkeepers. 
5 Michael Essien
33 Alex
26 John Terry (c)
18 Wayne Bridge
13 Michael Ballack
12 John Mikel Obi
8 Frank Lampard
21 Salomon Kalou
39 Nicolas Anelka
15 Florent Malouda
Substitutes: 40 Hilario, 35 Juliano Belletti, 24 Shaun Wright-Phillips, 10 Joe Cole, 7 Andriy Shevchenko.
-----------Cech
Essien--Alex--Terry--Bridge
-----------Mikel
------Ballack--Lampard
Kalou----Anelka----Malouda
Why is Cech playing?
You'd have thought Grant would've learnt from the Villa game about the risk in playing injured goalkeepers.
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S4P wrote:
Why is Cech playing?
I can only assume because Hilario is, well, shite.
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