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    Post by DS Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:25 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:Nanny was only marginally better than Giggs, and I put that down to his fresh legs as much as anything. Fergie must have been kicking himself that he missed out on the cheaper, better Babel.
    Your fears gotten in your head mate.
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:26 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:Nanny was only marginally better than Giggs, and I put that down to his fresh legs as much as anything. Fergie must have been kicking himself that he missed out on the cheaper, better Babel.
    IMO nani changed the game. His skill plus the treat of a good cross/shot kept Blackburn back plus he made a great through ball for Rooney to miss a 1on1.
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    Post by Batman Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:27 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:Nanny was only marginally better than Giggs, and I put that down to his fresh legs as much as anything. Fergie must have been kicking himself that he missed out on the cheaper, better Babel.

    lol!

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    Glenn's back ok
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:28 pm

    DS wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Batman wrote:How did we play in the last 25 mins?

    i stopped watching the game because im superstisus

    e.g. stop watching the game:

    Spurs 3-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-1 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-0 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-0 Man Utd

    game finishes:

    Spurs 4-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-2 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-1 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-1 Man Utd

    Nani starts for me , every game from now on.
    Did he get the player afterwards thus stopping him getting the second ball (if the ball was close enough). (I didn't see the 1st 25 mins)
    I thought he got the ball not cleanly perhaps but there wasnt real contact , same like Vogel getting the ball and also tripping Ronaldo.
    Vogel kicked it comfortably far enough for Fronaldo not to be able to get the second ball.
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    Post by DS Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:30 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    DS wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Batman wrote:How did we play in the last 25 mins?

    i stopped watching the game because im superstisus

    e.g. stop watching the game:

    Spurs 3-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-1 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-0 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-0 Man Utd

    game finishes:

    Spurs 4-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-2 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-1 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-1 Man Utd

    Nani starts for me , every game from now on.
    Did he get the player afterwards thus stopping him getting the second ball (if the ball was close enough). (I didn't see the 1st 25 mins)
    I thought he got the ball not cleanly perhaps but there wasnt real contact , same like Vogel getting the ball and also tripping Ronaldo.
    Vogel kicked it comfortably far enough for Fronaldo not to be able to get the second ball.
    Watch again see his other leg.
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    Post by COTR Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:32 pm

    DS wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    DS wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Batman wrote:How did we play in the last 25 mins?

    i stopped watching the game because im superstisus

    e.g. stop watching the game:

    Spurs 3-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-1 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-0 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-0 Man Utd

    game finishes:

    Spurs 4-4 Chelsea
    Boro 2-2 Man Utd
    Chelsea 1-1 Wigan
    Blackburn 1-1 Man Utd

    Nani starts for me , every game from now on.
    Did he get the player afterwards thus stopping him getting the second ball (if the ball was close enough). (I didn't see the 1st 25 mins)
    I thought he got the ball not cleanly perhaps but there wasnt real contact , same like Vogel getting the ball and also tripping Ronaldo.
    Vogel kicked it comfortably far enough for Fronaldo not to be able to get the second ball.
    Watch again see his other leg.

    It looked like frank actually kicked vogel tbh


    Kuzchak got lucky. He didnt have a clue what he was doing and just clipped the ball which saved him
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    Post by Sgoater1 Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:34 pm

    FFS !
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    Post by DS Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:34 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:FFS !
    We didnt win.
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    Post by Puro Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:36 pm

    How about Mark Hughes doing his best so that the Mancs can at least salvage a 1-1 draw! lol!

    WTF! did Hughes tell his players don't even bother to counter attack? cheers

    I fire that c**t right now if I were Blackburn's owner. Who the f@ck is Hughes' best intererest Blackburn or the Mancs? Biggrin

    Speaking of the Mancs, what's wrong with Rooney? He misses so many easy goals. scratch Then he curses out the ref, the linesman, just about everyone when it's just him who misses the EASY goals, and then the men in black don't have the balls to send him off. The whole shite makes Mascherano look like Prince Charmin. Mascherano says to the ref "why a yellow card to Tórres" he sees red. Rooney just rides his white English ass, he knows he can get away with almost anything and says to the refs "FUCK YOU, #@$%*&&@ @!#$%!* and the refs just look at him. Nothing happens to him. What crock of shite! Biggrin

    I've seen the Mancs get a whole lot of calls go their way especially when it comes down to penalties, and today they didn't get a clear penalty that Emerton elbow ball. Oh the irony! lol! <Ale>
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    Post by fcb Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:36 pm

    Did Park come on before the equaliser? If so, it keeps up that bizarre record of Man. Utd. never losing in the time he's on the pitch or something like that.
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    Post by Parks lives Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:37 pm

    No, after. Rooney keeps his unbeaten run.
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    Post by DS Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:38 pm

    Puro wrote:How about Mark Hughes doing his best so that the Mancs can at least salvage a 1-1 draw! lol!

    WTF! did Hughes tell his players don't even bother to counter attack? cheers

    I fire that c**t right now if I were Blackburn's owner. Who the f@ck is Hughes' best intererest Blackburn or the Mancs? Biggrin

    Speaking of the Mancs, what's wrong with Rooney? He misses so many easy goals. scratch Then he curses out the ref, the linesman, just about everyone when it's just him who misses the EASY goals, and then the men in black don't have the balls to send him off. The whole shite makes Mascherano look like Prince Charmin. Mascherano says to the ref "why a yellow card to Tórres" he sees red. Rooney just rides his white English ass, he knows he can get away with almost anything and says to the refs "FUCK YOU, #@$%*&&@ @!#$%!* and the refs just look at him. Nothing happens to him. What crock of shite! Biggrin

    I've seen the Mancs get a whole lot of calls go their way especially when it comes down to penalties, and today they didn't get a clear penalty that Emerton elbow ball. Oh the irony! lol! <Ale>
    You could have cut it short
    YES , MAN UTD HAVE DROPPED 2 POINTS.
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:38 pm

    Puro wrote:How about Mark Hughes doing his best so that the Mancs can at least salvage a 1-1 draw! lol!

    WTF! did Hughes tell his players don't even bother to counter attack? cheers

    I fire that c**t right now if I were Blackburn's owner. Who the f@ck is Hughes' best intererest Blackburn or the Mancs? Biggrin

    Speaking of the Mancs, what's wrong with Rooney? He misses so many easy goals. scratch Then he curses out the ref, the linesman, just about everyone when it's just him who misses the EASY goals, and then the men in black don't have the balls to send him off. The whole shite makes Mascherano look like Prince Charmin. Mascherano says to the ref "why a yellow card to Tórres" he sees red. Rooney just rides his white English ass, he knows he can get away with almost anything and says to the refs "FUCK YOU, #@$%*&&@ @!#$%!* and the refs just look at him. Nothing happens to him. What crock of shite! Biggrin

    I've seen the Mancs get a whole lot of calls go their way especially when it comes down to penalties, and today they didn't get a clear penalty that Emerton elbow ball. Oh the irony! lol! <Ale>
    Classic Puro lol!
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    Post by COTR Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:39 pm

    DS wrote:
    Puro wrote:How about Mark Hughes doing his best so that the Mancs can at least salvage a 1-1 draw! lol!

    WTF! did Hughes tell his players don't even bother to counter attack? cheers

    I fire that c**t right now if I were Blackburn's owner. Who the f@ck is Hughes' best intererest Blackburn or the Mancs? Biggrin

    Speaking of the Mancs, what's wrong with Rooney? He misses so many easy goals. scratch Then he curses out the ref, the linesman, just about everyone when it's just him who misses the EASY goals, and then the men in black don't have the balls to send him off. The whole shite makes Mascherano look like Prince Charmin. Mascherano says to the ref "why a yellow card to Tórres" he sees red. Rooney just rides his white English ass, he knows he can get away with almost anything and says to the refs "FUCK YOU, #@$%*&&@ @!#$%!* and the refs just look at him. Nothing happens to him. What crock of shite! Biggrin

    I've seen the Mancs get a whole lot of calls go their way especially when it comes down to penalties, and today they didn't get a clear penalty that Emerton elbow ball. Oh the irony! lol! <Ale>
    You could have cut it short
    YES , MAN UTD HAVE DROPPED 2 POINTS.

    He has a point on the mascherano issue

    You surely must admit that Wink
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    Post by DS Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:40 pm

    COTR wrote:
    DS wrote:
    Puro wrote:How about Mark Hughes doing his best so that the Mancs can at least salvage a 1-1 draw! lol!

    WTF! did Hughes tell his players don't even bother to counter attack? cheers

    I fire that c**t right now if I were Blackburn's owner. Who the f@ck is Hughes' best intererest Blackburn or the Mancs? Biggrin

    Speaking of the Mancs, what's wrong with Rooney? He misses so many easy goals. scratch Then he curses out the ref, the linesman, just about everyone when it's just him who misses the EASY goals, and then the men in black don't have the balls to send him off. The whole shite makes Mascherano look like Prince Charmin. Mascherano says to the ref "why a yellow card to Tórres" he sees red. Rooney just rides his white English ass, he knows he can get away with almost anything and says to the refs "FUCK YOU, #@$%*&&@ @!#$%!* and the refs just look at him. Nothing happens to him. What crock of shite! Biggrin

    I've seen the Mancs get a whole lot of calls go their way especially when it comes down to penalties, and today they didn't get a clear penalty that Emerton elbow ball. Oh the irony! lol! <Ale>
    You could have cut it short
    YES , MAN UTD HAVE DROPPED 2 POINTS.

    He has a point on the mascherano issue

    You surely must admit that Wink
    Mascherano was bad timing , Rafa the genius should have told that to him , also it wasnt one incident.
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    Post by Puro Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:40 pm

    shazlx wrote:Classic Puro lol!

    Thank you Shazlx! you know I'm a straight shooter, I call it like it is! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:49 pm

    In defence of Rooney Shocked the ref was letting everything go. There should have been so many yellows in this match: Brown, Vidic, Scholes, Tevez, Reid (possibly two), Pederson, and a few other Blackburn players. IMO 4 player (2 on each team) could have been off - Rooney, Reid and a Roulette round for the other two.
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:50 pm

    Puro wrote:
    shazlx wrote:Classic Puro lol!

    Thank you Shazlx! you know I'm a straight shooter, I call it like it is! Biggrin <Ale>
    mani-g' knows ok Ale
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:57 pm

    you guys know I am a stupid johnny foreigner but i have a question (not for gunners and scoucers but) for the real title challengers:

    What happens if Chelsea and Manc to finish with the same amount of points....?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:58 pm

    puro mate if you think that was bad wait until wigan completely roll over on the last day
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:59 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:you guys know I am a stupid johnny foreigner but i have a question (not for gunners and scoucers but) for the real title challengers:

    What happens if Chelsea and Manc to finish with the same amount of points....?
    utd win goal differemce no way chavski will catch them on that now
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    Post by Rosicky Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:59 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    What happens if Chelsea and Manc to finish with the same amount of points....?

    goal difference. so united win.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:00 pm

    Rosicky wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    What happens if Chelsea and Manc to finish with the same amount of points....?

    goal difference. so united win.
    Thanks...
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    Post by Puro Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:08 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:puro mate if you think that was bad wait until wigan completely roll over on the last day

    Yeah Frank I know. I'm gonna wait to see how everything develops until the Wigan game. Here's hoping the odds for Man Utd aren't something ridiculously low something like 1.20 or so where you can't make much money from the game. <Ale>
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:19 pm

    Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

    The biggest chance was when Rooney could have played it infront of Ronaldo for a tap in, but he played it behind him then there was the possible penalty and Tevez almost scored. Nani changed the game a bit but some of his decision making is ridiculously bad. The goal in the end was 100% deserved and probably 1-1 is nice on Blackburn. Rooney simply misses to many chances.

    Tevez scored another very important goal, but still not keen on him the guy really doesn't do enough.

    The late surge with a late goal was just like 99 again cheers
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:26 pm

    L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.
    Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:29 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.
    Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

    Why should he have been sent off?
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    Post by Puro Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:37 pm

    Mark Hughes is a FUCKING DISGRACE! He fucked Blackburn. His players are running the whole game, they're tired, trying their best to come away with the win, but their own fucking manager lets them down.

    Hughes sees the Mancs bringing in fresh players, but this c**t doesn't do a damn thing to shore up the defense, to protect his warriors by bringing in re-inforcements, fresh players.

    Queiroz brought in Nani for the second half. What did Hughes do? NOTHING! He let his players run and defend until they were out of gas. The Mancs goal was coming. He could've shore up his defense with Ooijer. He should've brought in a fresh McCarthy to kill off the Mancs with a swift counter after Brown had left the game.

    Hughest didn't do SHITE! He did his best so that the Mancs didn't lose this match! I AM FUCKING CONVINCED OF THAT! <Ale>

    Mark Hughes is a FUCKING DISGRACE for NOT looking out for "his own" team's best interests. Is he another Manc? Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:46 pm

    L r d wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.
    Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

    Why should he have been sent off?
    The dive, the high lunge vs Samba and kickout with both legs (straight red as it was clearly deliberate IMO), the dissent: easily enough yellows to get sent off. All before the handball.
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:48 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.
    Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

    Why should he have been sent off?
    The dive, the high lunge vs Samba and kickout with both legs (straight red as it was clearly deliberate IMO), the dissent: easily enough yellows to get sent off. All before the handball.

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