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EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

L.r.d

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Post n°271

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by L.r.d Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:53 pm

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

Why should he have been sent off?

The dive, the high lunge vs Samba and kickout with both legs (straight red as it was clearly deliberate IMO), the dissent: easily enough yellows to get sent off. All before the handball.

This is like me saying Tevez could have had a hat trick, Ronaldo 2 O'Shea 2, 2 penalties therefore it should have been 1-9. The 'dive' was a delayed reaction. But hardly a yellow card offense. The lunge was not dangerous and Samba was fine and acted to go to ground in the first place. By your logic he should have been booked for diving. He thought he was fouled and the ref gave the free kick the other way. He wasnt to happy but hardly a yellow for questioning the ridiculous decision. <Ale>

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Post n°272

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by shazlx Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:53 pm

Markus wrote:

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

Why should he have been sent off?

The dive, the high lunge vs Samba and kickout with both legs (straight red as it was clearly deliberate IMO), the dissent: easily enough yellows to get sent off. All before the handball.

Rob Styles was $h!t

Soooo many yellows missed, for both teams. (read previous posts)

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Post n°273

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Machiavel Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:01 pm

shazlx wrote:

Markus wrote:

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:

shazlx wrote:

L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

Rooney not sent off is more important than the penalty. With Rooney off you almost certainly would have lost today and also the Chelsea match.

Why should he have been sent off?

The dive, the high lunge vs Samba and kickout with both legs (straight red as it was clearly deliberate IMO), the dissent: easily enough yellows to get sent off. All before the handball.

Rob Styles was $h!t

Soooo many yellows missed, for both teams. (read previous posts)

After this performance he should be demoted and not be eligible to referee Premiership games, how Brown wasn’t booked today was a mystery, I don’t know what rule book he is working from but that book must be missing the page (or does not have it at all) which tells you what constitutes to a penalty, was he the same referee who gave Chelsea a pen at Anfield?

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Post n°274

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Romford Pele Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:40 pm

Dwarf wrote:Boro are useless

No just giving Bolton a chance of survival <Ale>

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Post n°275

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Isco Benny Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:50 pm

L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

The biggest chance was when Rooney could have played it infront of Ronaldo for a tap in, but he played it behind him then there was the possible penalty and Tevez almost scored. Nani changed the game a bit but some of his decision making is ridiculously bad. The goal in the end was 100% deserved and probably 1-1 is nice on Blackburn. Rooney simply misses to many chances.

Tevez scored another very important goal, but still not keen on him the guy really doesn't do enough.

The late surge with a late goal was just like 99 again

Yet the worst miss of the game was the ball squared by Rooney to Tevez who missed the ball completely from 5 yards.

Rooney, despite the misses, is still your most creative player over 90 minutes.

Nani was v impressive when he came on. Shame he looks like a pepperami

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Post n°276

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Romford Pele Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:57 pm

Senor Woody wrote:

L r d wrote:Well nobody can claim the refs are biased in favour of Man Utd after this match and the Boro match. How many clear penalties can be denied before that myth gets put to bed. The linesman are just as bad, at least once a game a great pass to a player onside and through is called offside.

The biggest chance was when Rooney could have played it infront of Ronaldo for a tap in, but he played it behind him then there was the possible penalty and Tevez almost scored. Nani changed the game a bit but some of his decision making is ridiculously bad. The goal in the end was 100% deserved and probably 1-1 is nice on Blackburn. Rooney simply misses to many chances.

Tevez scored another very important goal, but still not keen on him the guy really doesn't do enough.

The late surge with a late goal was just like 99 again

Yet the worst miss of the game was the ball squared by Rooney to Tevez who missed the ball completely from 5 yards.

Rooney, despite the misses, is still your most creative player over 90 minutes.

Nani was v impressive when he came on. Shame he looks like a pepperami

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Post n°277

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by debaser Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:31 am

Villa;

-------------Carson---------------
Mellberg-Laursen-Knight-Bouma
-----Petrov-ReoCoker-Barry----
--------------Young---------------
--------Carew-Agbonlahor------

No alarms and no surprises

Brum:

--------------Taylor----------------
Kelly--Jaidi--Ridgewell--Murphy
Jerome-Nafti-Muamba-McSheffrey
----------Zarate-McFadden------

Dangerous pair upfront - they seem to have quite an attacking line-up (although I don't know how they usually play)

Kick off in 30 mins Crazy

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Post n°278

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Rosicky Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:37 am

shame they are not showing the villa brum game on sky...

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Post n°279

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by debaser Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:40 am

Rosicky wrote:shame they are not showing the villa brum game on sky...

aye, 'tis a bit rubbish. you'd think they'd show the big derbies as they're usually eventful games.

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Post n°280

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Rosicky Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:43 am

debaser wrote:

Rosicky wrote:shame they are not showing the villa brum game on sky...

aye, 'tis a bit rubbish. you'd think they'd show the big derbies as they're usually eventful games.

well to be fair they are showing the newcastle vs sunderland derby at 1.30 but Man City v Portsmouth, who cares!?

it might have something to do with the fact that the derbies are normally played at lunch time due to the policing of it....

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Post n°281

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by debaser Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:32 pm

Ashley!

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Post n°282

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Sheffield gunner Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:32 pm

1-0 Villa!

Young scores from a Mellberg assist.

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Post n°283

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by debaser Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:46 pm

CAREW!

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Post n°284

Re: EPL Discussion 17th-20th April

by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:48 pm

Villa must fancy their chances of getting 5th now, they have some great momentum, beating Everton will see them go above them on goal difference at this rate.