Poldi vs Gomez

considering that Gomez has a better goal-per-game ratio in the Bundesliga than even Toni, the answer appears obvious to many

I am not so sure though

Poldi's stats for Germany are just sensational

the boy always managed to play brilliantly for the Vaterland despite sitting on the Munich bench

his frontline partnership with Klose at the World Cup was the best at the Tournament as well

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once Hitzfeld actually started playing him for 90 minutes the Koelner repaid him generously

2 goals against Duisburg in the last game; a total of 4 goals in his last 5 FULL games

Poldi, of course, holds the record of Goals of the Month in Germany, ahead any other mortal, a feat Gomez can only dream of

so who should Loew go for

the tried and trusted big game superstar, Poldi

or

the hottest young striker talent in world football

You should watch The Accidental Husband. You'd love it.

poldi

because the partnership with klose works so great, 2 different types of strikers, gomez is similar to klose

Actually, the question should / could rather be Poldi (Kuranyi) or Klose, knowing that Klose had an abysmal second half (again...), while Podolski has finally shown what he is capable of for Bayern in the last few matches, and Gomez and Poldi played brilliantly together against Switzerland (last match of die Mannschaft).

Poldi can play well on the left wing also, he is a very versatile player. He will definitely get enough matches during the tournament to show his talent.

Gomez however has to start, he is our best, most talented and complete striker.

to help you make up your mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLTIHXJZPWg&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ongqam_yc&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN0Fx_Z3YT4&feature=related
(Poldi is the player Robinho will never be: wG)

26-Otto-19 wrote:

so who should Loew go for

the tried and trusted big game superstar, Poldi

or

the hottest young striker talent in world football

well since Torres is Spanish he'll have to go with Podolski from your options.

when poldi runs he remembers me to the young ronaldo (the fat one)

KLOSE HAS to start

he is the World Cup superstar and would have been the Bayern top-scorer , if Toni had not been so selfish

now that Schneider is out and Metze is questionable, we need to keep the few experienced players on the pitch and NOT demote them

if you take Klose out right from the start, his confidence will be completely shattered

besides, there is no other striker in the world so good at working for the team

Klose-Poldi is a REAL alternative to Klose-Gomez

you heard it here first

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I predict Loew will start with the two Poles

wahre G

will the German Kießling get a look in? Or will the 'German' strikers be Polish, Brazillian and Spanish?

Merit should not be the only criteria. While Klose will most likely start indeed, I want to see him benched should he continue to disappoint for die Mannschaft also. We have four very good / excellent alternatives for the attack, and all of them deserve to get some playing time. The team has to come first.

Gomez is the most complete striker we have, he and Poldi will most likely be our attack in future.

Kiessling really deserves the fifth spot after his UEFA heroics

I have a hunch about Helmes getting it though

Gomez is your only talented striker. So obiviously he has to start. The rest is not so important...

haha

amusing song about NEVER joining Bayern Munich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7oFBRCLdBA&feature=related

I agree with blut, Gomez has to start, only the second striker is debatable.

Löw should choose whoever fits best to Gomez...

brilliant

the Werder fans question their BEST EVER PLAYER



such is their Hanseatic gratefulness

Haha WTF? Our best player ever? Now you completely lost your mind otto. Not Völler, not Basler, but Klose? Unbelievable..


The Werder fans, just like the Bayern fans now, know how utterly pathetic he can be, a true liability for the team, if he has a psycho-crisis again, and lacks form completely. If he can overcome that, he is indeed a fine player and definite starter, but only if.

What you seem to have forgotten completely is that before WC 2006, he had his best season ever for Werder, scoring 25 goals in 29 matches, and having 14 assists. Klose today is far from being that player.

The team has to come first, die Mannschaft is no sanatorium for players in a crisis. We have a tournament to win.

26-Otto-19 wrote:brilliant

the Werder fans question their BEST EVER PLAYER



such is their Hanseatic gratefulness

Klose is nowhere near our best ever player. Klose should be forever grateful he was allowed to wear a Bremen jersey.

To be fair most Bayern fans will argue that at least earlier in the season he was doing well for the team and providing many of the assists for Toni to grab the glory etc. But still Otto is taking the piss here.

Even more confused that you are now arguing for Kießling to get that fifth spot in attack Otto – I thought you said Odonkor? Whose midfield place should Odonkor take then? Hitzlsperger, Rolfes, Jones, Marin, Özil? I'm sure I've forgotten someone too...

how on earth did Basler or Voeller ever top Klose's 25 goals+14 assists season, me wants to know

I like your Darwinian attutide of " no sanatorium for players in a crisis, WE have a tournament to WIN" though

by those standards we should have fed Klinsi and Loew to the Lions way before the last World Cup

preferably after Florence

Blut Nightingale was tending to those lost souls in them days, me seems to remember

good to see that German men ultimatively turn the corner and mysteriously demand to see blood and sacrifices

I like it

Just like he did for us Allez. Very good first half of the season last year, an abysmal second half. But this time, he can't blame everyone else for his "crisis", there are no excuses (and no, the Toni excuse does not count, otherwise he wouldn't have scored in the first half also).

otto blamed Diego in Bremen, now he blames Toni in Bayern for Klose's own shortcomings. Time to smell the coffee otto, Klose's problems are "hausgemacht".

Allez les rouges wrote:

Even more confused that you are now arguing for Kießling to get that fifth spot in attack Otto – I thought you said Odonkor? Whose midfield place should Odonkor take then? Hitzlsperger, Rolfes, Jones, Marin, Özil? I'm sure I've forgotten someone too...

I always thought of Odonkor as an attacking midfielder

we have indeed a squad selection problem that even I cannot solve

Ballack, Frings, Schweini, Boro are automatic selections

I am not a big Hitzlsperger fan, but he really has earned his spurs

Rolfes HAS to be there as well; and Jones I like as well, but frankly he has to wait his turn

which really means that Odo should take Schneider's place and Kiessling (or Helmes ) should get Neuville's

forget about Troch

which begs the question whose spot Rolfes gets

will think about it

otto, by über-Germanic old friend, didn't you always say yourself that great players need to win titles to be considered truly great? That is a very German view, and I agree with it.

So, if that is a valid criteria for greatness, players like Völler and Basler definitely are greater than Klose, because they were not only very talented players who shaped an era (which Klose definitely did not), but most importantly, won us titles.

Therefore, Völler & Basler > Klose

Both did not just become topscorers of the league, like Klose, but actually won the championship also. That's the difference.

I was in the supermarket and I nosed into a magazine about all the ins and outs of Euro2008.... The squads etc....

It was a pretty bad magazine (how come they already knew all the squads????????). In the total German squad there was no Gomez ...!

blutgraetsche wrote:

otto blamed Diego in Bremen, now he blames Toni in Bayern for Klose's own shortcomings. Time to smell the coffee otto, Klose's problems are "hausgemacht".

there is indeed a pattern here

Diego and Toni ARE responsible for Klose's decline

BUT

I have to agree that Klose is simply not assertive enough

he left Bremen partly to escape Diego and ended up with Toni, the new , equally selfish media darling

Klose is a football genius but really too fragile mentally

sell Toni and partner him with Polid and everything would be fine

unfortunately, this Polish defeatism that Ballack is clearly NOT displaying at Chelsea means Miro will NOT enter the pantheon of all-time greats despite all his brilliant stats

Blut, Otto is the most stubborn individual on this board as you know, IT'S WHAT HE DOES. Clinging to beliefs however outdated or out of sync with the current state of affairs is his trademark. He is a true fundamentalist – take the opinion/dogma as a starting-point and explain everything else away in the light of that, rather than the other way round.

You see a trivial instance of this in his use there of the world "ultimatively" – it's been explained to him before that it isn't an English word yet still he persists with it

26-Otto-19 wrote:how on earth did Basler or Voeller ever top Klose's 25 goals+14 assists season, me wants to know

Well, Basler was a midfielder and Voeller had indeed a better goal ratio at Bremen than Klose.

Apart from that the fact remains Klose is a big arsehole.

@allez

what do the English know about English, says I ?

it's a global language that has to yield to our Teutonic whip

think of it as a Rover that gets some major league tuning by AMG

anyway, English is a Germanic language

WE gave it to the world, and WE can take it away

or at least improve on it

chrissicross wrote:

Apart from that the fact remains Klose is a big arsehole.

Klose an arsehole



do you know what Marcel Jansen said about Miro ?

DO YOU

So what did Marcel J say, not that I care...

chrissicross wrote:So what did Marcel J say, not that I care...

Marcel said that Miro had taught the Bayern players to take their used Cups or Glasses and put them into the dish-washers after they were finished with them



so imagine Kahn having to find the club kitchen and deposit "seine Tasse" in the "Miele Spuelmaschine" so that Miro finds peace of mind



I bet they have to take their shoes off as well before entering the table tennis room so that there won't be any scratches on the floor



Miro, the major league asshole, is taming the Bayern locker room

only van Bommel is beyond help

Dutchies , eh

26-Otto-19 wrote:

chrissicross wrote:So what did Marcel J say, not that I care...

Marcel said that Miro had taught the Bayern players to take their used Cups or Glasses and put them into the dish-washers after they were finished with them



so imagine Kahn having to find the club kitchen and deposit "seine Tasse" in the "Miele Spuelmaschine" so that Miro finds peace of mind

Ah well, maybe not anything is lost...