Desgraciats wrote:I hope Porto wins the appeal... Considering how corrupt football is then this is an extreme overreaction
lampiao007 wrote:Protheus, get real
Envy? Of what? A corruption charge on my club's name?
A president that rather defend "is good name and morals" than that of the club he represents?
So the phone calls tap inns are illegal (i'll amuse you for a bit), but does that change the conversations? Does it change the fact they existed? And that your club's lawyers never denied them?
Does this mean, if I ask someone on the phone to go and bash someone's head in, the police listens to the call, and although instead of a good bashing, the other person only gets a slap, that I'm less guilty?
And please, the president ex that wrote the book with Benfica's help,bla,bla,bla. I actualy took you for an intelligent guy
I'm sure that even you don't believe on all the Cr@p a few individuals connected to your club invent. I presume you also believe that supposed file written by the PJ investigators that popped up a few months ago in the net....
What did you achieve on the field if your club has just been charged with corruption, docked points, and accepted the punishment? Ahhhh....corrupt resuts
Why don't you, a Porto supporter, instead of paraphrasing a person that took the great divide to no lows, ask yourself the following :
1] Do I want a guy that drop my club's name on the mud, to continue to be my president?
2] Why was my club docked points, and the board accepted this, without appealing against it, if they claim innocence?
3] Why is not the board of directors of my club resigning, after such a shambles?
4] Why is my President on trial for crimes of corruption, coercion and falsification of results?
Who do you support, FCP, or PDC?. Because there is a diference
but is now too late for the world to understand what it is
lampiao007 wrote:Technically, the 4th place team in Portugal, in this case Benfica.
My opinion is that Benfica should go to UEFA regardless Porto wins the appeal
We where utterly $h!t this season, so UEFA is the place for us
lampiao007 wrote:Well, you are also incorrect Luso :0
The team that takes Porto place is actualy Sporting, and the 2 others get moved in accordance
Still I think that regardless of verdict Benfica should not go to the CL
Protheus wrote:lampiao007 wrote:Protheus, get real
Envy? Of what? A corruption charge on my club's name?
A president that rather defend "is good name and morals" than that of the club he represents?
So the phone calls tap inns are illegal (i'll amuse you for a bit), but does that change the conversations? Does it change the fact they existed? And that your club's lawyers never denied them?
Does this mean, if I ask someone on the phone to go and bash someone's head in, the police listens to the call, and although instead of a good bashing, the other person only gets a slap, that I'm less guilty?
And please, the president ex that wrote the book with Benfica's help,bla,bla,bla. I actualy took you for an intelligent guy
I'm sure that even you don't believe on all the Cr@p a few individuals connected to your club invent. I presume you also believe that supposed file written by the PJ investigators that popped up a few months ago in the net....
What did you achieve on the field if your club has just been charged with corruption, docked points, and accepted the punishment? Ahhhh....corrupt resuts
Why don't you, a Porto supporter, instead of paraphrasing a person that took the great divide to no lows, ask yourself the following :
1] Do I want a guy that drop my club's name on the mud, to continue to be my president?
2] Why was my club docked points, and the board accepted this, without appealing against it, if they claim innocence?
3] Why is not the board of directors of my club resigning, after such a shambles?
4] Why is my President on trial for crimes of corruption, coercion and falsification of results?
Who do you support, FCP, or PDC?. Because there is a diference
but is now too late for the world to understand what it is
You say it is corruption, no call and no proves say that. So what do you call your club accepting the 6 points deduction without appeal? Good will on earth?
The phone calls talk of no bashings just references to ambiguous things. Again you are making up things. The calls existed allright but as all lawyers know it is not what might happen or you want to happen but what you can prove or if the prove is usable in a court of law or if it credible or not-fact. We all know you guys are all blind to it because it suits you - fact. The law is not retroactive-fact. You did not answer my analogy. Is he more or less responsible?
You may insult whatever you want i don´t give a damn what you think of me or not and i do not give you enough importance to feel offended. Thank you, I tough so, but where did I insult you?
Net proves? Is this a joke? And you say i am not inteligent
Alleged actions acusations, again you distort what it is said in there but hey i do not expect anything less from a biased benfiquista and porto-hater, you guys always shape things to what you like to belive.
1) The actions taken in the process are options and taken by lawyers so if they have a course of actions i am sure they know more than i. I am no lawyer. i doubt you are one too.
2) I am against not apealing then but again i am not the one to chose a course of action, the club and the club's board are. It is their job.
3)What shambles?The 20 points we had more than the 2nd placed team last season?The top international team we have? Wishfull thinking from you doesn't make things happen. Keep dreaming.
4)Again you keep repeating the same things and for the 10000th time in case you didn´t understood so far: Alleged acusations. Just because you guys are in ectasy at the prospect to excuse your failures doesn´t mean they are real.
I am a Porto supporter and i think by my own head, and unlike you say i can be pragmatic and i do not think everything my president touches turn to gold i disagree in many things, like the apeal for instance but hey i disagree about a lot of things and agree with a lot too but i am not blind to see when the facts are shaped so that some results can be produced.
The facts that you say are so clearly ilegal, unconsistent and unjustified proves but you use them as they were all true and proven and use it to shape your opinion no matter what, says pretty much about your feelings toward us, only blind hate. Sad really.
You know you can keep repeating to yourself that you were robbed for 100 years so far, that you have the divine right to win everything no matter how unorganized and incompetent you have been for so many years and hey, as long as you guys keep thinking that you will never improve but then again that is your problem, might you keep thinking that forever.
Luso wrote:Pro, I feel like you've been slipping for some time now. I understand that most people don't want to admit their club cheats, but eventually you have to call it what it is.
Walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck... it's a fucking duck.
Quack, quack!
As for your 'ambiguous' claim - if I call your wife/girlfriend (whichever the case) and tell her I wanna "boink" her (yes, I actually said 'boink') it could mean I wanna flick her on the nose... or it could just mean I intend to smack her ass and stick my manhood inside her from behind... which conclusion would you come to my friend?
I'm guessing we wouldn't be shaking hands the next time we met.
lampiao007 wrote:
Dude, your club is in this position because your president screw up.
Don't come calling me a hater, when you where the 1st one to start with the "teams that can not win on the pitch" and brought this subject yourself
Hate is what you guys sing every game about FDP SLB.
If you want to personalize your anger, fine, your choice. I maintain what I said. I tough, and still do, that you are clever than just going on the popular speech of blaming Benfica for everything .If you think that is an offense, fine.
Fine by me. In the end of the day, It's Porto name that gets tainted, but hey, what do I know, I'm just a "hater".
Protheus wrote: IT IS STILL A DUCK.
We won because our structure is better, our players are better and we perform better. Domesticly and internationally.
); we claim ourselves to be the champions of the North and the victims of a southern conspirecy (despite what others may say this is true because we say it is); claim we've (finally) turned the club around since our accused president took over simply because we're now the best at everything and that any notions of cheating are pure fantasy and anyone who thinks otherwise must've been a Salazar sympathiser (cause all portistas know Salazar loved Benfica and helped them win for years! We'll be damned if they accuse us of doing the same now, even though we are....); we'll drink plenty of champagne after our victories and sample some of the local 'fruit' (aka - whores 
); we'll never foget to pay homage to the man who makes it all possible - our infamous president, may God protect him.
Protheus wrote:
They took as granted the prostitute book and act acording it. So why would i comment a description in book with no credibility?
Well if not it sure sounded like you did.
Protheus wrote:@int
Again you are taking as granted the protitute book and all that is written there as the truth, all truth and nothing but the truth. It would be irrelevant in any court what was written in there considering the alleged witness but since this is a political case with strong lobbys at action the result of the Liga decision was the expected.
Protheus wrote:Ah, Record, the defenders of justice and virtue, the holders of the holy grail, the newspaper that only talks about porto to say negative things about us no matter if they are truth or not. Not exactly the most impartial source heh? Oh you could add the lisbon biased tv stations, "Correio da Manhã" and "A Bola" to be all perfect in heaven.
Protheus wrote:Well with all those negative feelings towards us i would call it hate but you should know better what you feel. As for me i dislike rivals because of the rivalry but i do not want any of the 2 big rivals to lose every game. A league without them wouldn´t be so fun and i enjoy to beat them and win stuff against them. You see, that is the difference between biased supporters and hate supporters.
do you even have to ask?Luis wrote:Why didn't this happen to Milan when they match fixed?
Protheus wrote:Your repeating yourself again Luso. I haven´t made any excuses with referees or with any dark force. Never did and i think that is a weak excuse.You are the one always talking about the porto boogie man so you are describing yourself. I can not talk for other portistas of course but for me a team wins on the field and you can only use that ref excuse so far. For you it is all about that excuse and we never won anything in the field so no need to repeat that story over and over again.
As i said before Benfica was better in the 60 70, Sporting in the 40 50 and Porto in the last 20 years or so. That is how i see it and i won´t go behaving like most supporters justifing failures with dark forces and even if some refs are pretty much biased one time or another to win with a certain consistency you need a team with quality. And of course you guys are pretty much selective when talking about refs, all in your favor and nothing against.
Since Porto are somewhat sucessefull you guys repeat to yourself that excuses and to be honest you sound like a cracked cd by now. But if that talk makes you guys feel happier when you fail to win, by all means enjoy yourselves.
Luso wrote:Something about "haters" hey Pro...
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