the latest German WUNDERKIND: Manuel FISCHER

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/spielersteckbrief/object/39221/saison/2007-08

the endless conveyor belt of German talents will simply not stop

so, my dear English and (other) foreign friends, let me introduce you to a player, who could turn out to become even bigger than Gomez, when both have finished their careers

his name is Manuel Fischer (juligen will be happy to recognise the German nature )

Fischer has now been brought on twice as a late sub in the Bundesliga

the 18-year-old used his first 30 minutes in the limelight to score one goal and assist another

not a bad start, heh



to those of you now wondering whether he could merely be a flash in the pan

well

the young German lad was the top-goalscorer at the U-17 Euros, I believe

chrissi and blut know more

quite astonishing: but it's now possible that Poldi's and Klose's Germany career could be over within the next two years

Gomez and Fischer could lead from the front

Kiessling, the third best goal-scorer in this year's UEFA Cup and an erstwhile transfer target of Wenger's is no longer even in the Germany Euro squad



I now propose : the hot-housing of German world beaters has to stop

the rest of the world simply cannot keep pace and will get increasingly jealous

economists already predict that one day people will fight wars over WATER (we had those oil wars already)

my fear is, that sooner than we think, the world will have proper football WARS

that the fight over football raw materials will intensify, and that the losers, those with no access to German talents, will raise their weapons, or close the gas pipelines or what have we

I therefore propose an international German footballer draft, just like in the NBA

the Bundesliga will keep the top 100 German players and the rest will be allocated to some of the poorest football nations and leagues world wide

this way, we might be able to keep this world as peaceful as possible

call me a dreamer

but I am sure, it can be done

PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!

No premature hyping of this one, let him develop and gradually get eased into the first team in peace over the next two seasons. Thanks.

Is he as good as theo otto ?

26-Otto-19 wrote:http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/vereine/spielersteckbrief/object/39221/saison/2007-08

the endless conveyor belt of German talents will simply not stop

so, my dear English and (other) foreign friends, let me introduce you to a player, who could turn out to become even bigger than Gomez, when both have finished their careers

his name is Manuel Fischer (juligen will be happy to recognise the German nature )

Fischer has now been brought on twice as a late sub in the Bundesliga

the 18-year-old used his first 30 minutes in the limelight to score one goal and assist another

not a bad start, heh



to those of you now wondering whether he could merely be a flash in the pan

well

the young German lad was the top-goalscorer at the U-17 Euros, I believe

chrissi and blut know more

quite astonishing: but it's now possible that Poldi's and Klose's Germany career could be over within the next two years

Gomez and Fischer could lead from the front

Kiessling, the third best goal-scorer in this year's UEFA Cup and an erstwhile transfer target of Wenger's is no longer even in the Germany Euro squad



I now propose : the hot-housing of German world beaters has to stop

the rest of the world simply cannot keep pace and will get increasingly jealous

economists already predict that one day people will fight wars over WATER (we had those oil wars already)

my fear is, that sooner than we think, the world will have proper football WARS

that the fight over football raw materials will intensify, and that the losers, those with no access to German talents, will raise their weapons, or close the gas pipelines or what have we

I therefore propose an international German footballer draft, just like in the NBA

the Bundesliga will keep the top 100 German players and the rest will be allocated to some of the poorest football nations and leagues world wide

this way, we might be able to keep this world as peaceful as possible

call me a dreamer

but I am sure, it can be done

Germany wasnt even there!!!


HAHAHHA GERMANY AND AJAX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I was wondering when we would get this topic! It was inevitable after his impact yesterday. I've yet to see him play though so can't comment on him.

COTR wrote:Is he as good as theo otto ?

you mean the Theo found wanting by Wenger, the guy who could not have hit barn door from a metre, that one

I fear Fischer will never quite rise to those dizzy heights

@children

THIS is one is a keeper, and within ONE year only EPL clubs will bid up to 30 million Euro for the lad

within 2 years he'll be at 60 million

and within 3 years, he will have led his club at the time to CL glory

you heard it here first

and NOW

I will take everything back

otherwise, anglo will have no sex with me tonight

26-Otto-19 wrote:

Fischer has now been brought on twice as a late sub in the Bundesliga

the 18-year-old used his first 30 minutes in the limelight to score one goal and assist another

All of this out of one goal


Only in Ottoland

26-Otto-19 wrote:

COTR wrote:Is he as good as theo otto ?

you mean the Theo found wanting by Wenger, the guy who could not have hit barn door from a metre, that one

I fear Fischer will never quite rise to those dizzy heights

I mean the one who tore the endless conveyor belt of german talents apart otto as you well know. Have you just erased the game from your memory ?


Give the kid a chance otto. Look what your podolski hype has resulted in. In comparison to what you have said about him, everyone now sees him as completely ordinary.

Gomez still is unproven and his time will come to vindicate the hype

Fischer, whoever he may be, after one goal, is not quite ready for greatness just yet

26-Otto-19 wrote:

COTR wrote:Is he as good as theo otto ?

you mean the Theo found wanting by Wenger, the guy who could not have hit barn door from a metre, that one

I fear Fischer will never quite rise to those dizzy heights

@children

THIS is one is a keeper, and within ONE year only EPL clubs will bid up to 30 million Euro for the lad

within 2 years he'll be at 60 million

and within 3 years, he will have led his club at the time to CL glory

you heard it here first

and NOW

I will take everything back

otherwise, anglo will have no sex with me tonight

Ask blut, he knows where to find pillows and blankets and the way to the couch.

anglo

you are not driving me onto blut's Sofa but rather into the arms of haesschen

haarige Geschichte

26-Otto-19 wrote:anglo

you are not driving me onto blut's Sofa but rather into the arms of haesschen

haarige Geschichte

So what? Since you and her seem to click better anyway, I'll gladly hand you over to her.

To Germany

Fischer is a natural goal scorer, a clinical finisher type. Despite his young age, he is very calm and composed in front of the goal. And otto was talking about the U17 EC in 2006, when Fischer was topscorer of the tournament indeed, together with Bojan Krcic.

I agree with anglo though, stop the hype otto. He is very talented, but very raw still. Let him develop and gain experience first. But knowing Stuttgart and their excellent youth setup, and the way they continue to integrate promising young players into their team, I'm optimistic about his future. Stuttgart really seem to have the right touch when it comes to young striker talents.

Blut, how are you doing? So any good news for this summer? buying some new players?

Juligen wrote:Blut, how are you doing? So any good news for this summer? buying some new players?

Hello Juli! I'm doing ok, thank you. How is Brazil these days?

We will buy some new players this summer indeed, but nothing concrete yet. We better discuss that in the Werder thread though.

26-Otto-19 wrote:anglo

you are not driving me onto blut's Sofa but rather into the arms of haesschen

haarige Geschichte

Top stuff Anglo and Otto. Otto - you appear to have recaptured your mojo with this one. All is forgiven.

May have to point out that Germany's "official" hottest woman Heidi is married to an Englishman.

Your idea for a draft might make you capable of keeping your incredible footballers, but if you dont do something soon, all your beautiful German women like Anglo and Ball will continue to fall into the arms of those nasty foreigners

Senor Woody wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:anglo

you are not driving me onto blut's Sofa but rather into the arms of haesschen

haarige Geschichte

Top stuff Anglo and Otto. Otto - you appear to have recaptured your mojo with this one. All is forgiven.

May have to point out that Germany's "official" hottest woman Heidi is married to an Englishman.

Your idea for a draft might make you capable of keeping your incredible footballers, but if you dont do something soon, all your beautiful German women like Anglo and Ball will continue to fall into the arms of those nasty foreigners

Don't forget we have a female HSV fan on board now--otto should be working hard at keeping the Dutchies away from her. Once the new season has started, she'll probably wish she'd never asked me for the link to the message board.

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Senor Woody wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:anglo

you are not driving me onto blut's Sofa but rather into the arms of haesschen

haarige Geschichte

Top stuff Anglo and Otto. Otto - you appear to have recaptured your mojo with this one. All is forgiven.

May have to point out that Germany's "official" hottest woman Heidi is married to an Englishman.

Your idea for a draft might make you capable of keeping your incredible footballers, but if you dont do something soon, all your beautiful German women like Anglo and Ball will continue to fall into the arms of those nasty foreigners

Don't forget we have a female HSV fan on board now--otto should be working hard at keeping the Dutchies away from her. Once the new season has started, she'll probably wish she'd never asked me for the link to the message board.

She's lucky nutters is no Germany watcher....

And the best thing Otto did not mention:

Although Fischer is Übertalented he didn´t make it in the German squad for the U19 Euro qualifiers.
Just how good must Semih Aydilek, Deniz Naki, EMCM and Savio Nsereko be?

The Team
Squad of the Under 19 national team for the second round of the EC-qualification in Slovakia (22.-28.05.08)Name Date of Birth Club Caps Goals

Goal
Sascha Burchert 30.10.1989 Hertha BSC Berlin 4 -
Ron-Robert Zieler 12.02.1989 Manchester United 5 -

Defence
Dennis Diekmeier 20.10.1989 SV Werder Bremen 11 2
Florian Jungwirth 27.01.1989 TSV 1860 München 10 -
Björn Kopplin 07.01.1989 FC Bayern München 9 -
Stefan Reinartz 01.01.1989 Bayer Leverkusen 2 -
David Vrzogic 10.08.1989 Borussia Dortmund 8 -

Midfiels
Lars Bender 27.04.1989 TSV 1860 München
2 -
Sven Bender 27.04.1989 TSV 1860 München 3 -
Timo Gebhart 12.04.1989 TSV 1860 München 6 3
Danny Latza 07.12.1989 FC Schalke 04 9 -
Kevin Pezzoni 22.03.1989 1. FC Köln 8 -
Marcel Risse 17.12.1989 Bayer Leverkusen 5 2
Mario Vrancic 23.05.1989 FSV Mainz 05 8 1

Offence
Semih Aydilek 16.01.1989 Birmingham City 5 2
Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting 23.03.1989 Hamburger SV 6 3
Deniz Naki 09.07.1989 Bayer Leverkusen 8 8
Savio Nsereko 27.07.1989 Brescia Calcio 6 3

At call
Mohamed Amsif 06.02.1989 FC Schalke 04 1 -
Holger Badstuber 13.03.1989 FC Bayern München 1 -
Manuel Fischer 19.09.1989 VfB Stuttgart 15 6
Cihan Kaptan 04.03.1989 Bayer Leverkusen 6 -
Tom Mickel 19.04.1989 Energie Cottbus 4 -
Thomas Müller 13.01.1989 FC Bayern München 1 -
Alexander Neumann 13.08.1989 Werder Bremen 5 1
Oliver Petersch 26.04.1989 Bayer Leverkusen 4 -
Manuel Schäffler 06.02.1989 TSV 1860 München
- -
Christopher Schorch 30.01.1989 Real Madrid 4 -
Dani Schahin 09.07.1989 Hamburger SV 2 -

© DFB 15.05.2008 / db

anglophileHedgehog wrote: Don't forget we have a female HSV fan on board now--otto should be working hard at keeping the Dutchies away from her. Once the new season has started, she'll probably wish she'd never asked me for the link to the message board.

Putting a friend in the firing line just to earn yourself a bit of a break, how noble of you Anglo!

kroesius wrote:And the best thing Otto did not mention:

Although Fischer is Übertalented he didn´t make it in the German squad for the U19 Euro qualifiers.
Just how good must Semih Aydilek, Deniz Naki, EMCM and Savio Nsereko be?

a lot of names that don't look very German to our Brazilian juligen

it seems as if tomorrow's Nationalmannschaft strikers will have a strong "Migrationshintergrund"

fair enough

I just hope we will have a Turkish-German in the Nationalmannschaft soon

the Turkish FA are really stealing our best talents

and having an Alintop or Bastuerk in the Mannschaft would help ethnic minorities integrate quicker into German societies

wahre G

Sheffield gunner wrote:

anglophileHedgehog wrote: Don't forget we have a female HSV fan on board now--otto should be working hard at keeping the Dutchies away from her. Once the new season has started, she'll probably wish she'd never asked me for the link to the message board.

Putting a friend in the firing line just to earn yourself a bit of a break, how noble of you Anglo!

*curtseys* Yes, yes, you know how I am, other people deserve a place in the limelight as well.

26-Otto-19 wrote:

the Turkish FA are really stealing our best talents

wahre G

In fact it´s more the other way around, nowadays.

This Aydilek from Birmingham is a former turkish U19 international, but opted to play for Germany a few months ago.

Same with Taner Yalcin, a highly rated youngster from FC Cologne, topscorer
in the U19 Bundesliga. He decided to play for Germany U18 although havin played for the Turkish U19 side.

Kroesius

Where did these Turkish-Germans got their birth and education?

But otto is right also, we lost way too many German born kids with a Turkish heritage in the last few years, discussed this in the Mannschaft thread already.

Fortunately, things are changing now indeed. Most of those Turkish kids who decided to play for Turkey didn't really feel at "home" there either. Their teammates often did not treat them as one of their own, but as "Germans" rather. And that's exactly they are, of course.

blutgraetsche wrote:But otto is right also, we lost way too many German born kids with a Turkish heritage in the last few years, discussed this in the Mannschaft thread already.

Fortunately, things are changing now indeed. Most of those Turkish kids who decided to play for Turkey didn't really feel at "home" there either. Their teammates often did not treat them as one of their own, but as "Germans" rather, which they are, of course.

Correct. these GERMANS with a Turkish background must all chooseto play for Germany IMO!

kroesius wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:

the Turkish FA are really stealing our best talents

wahre G

In fact it´s more the other way around, nowadays.

not so sure

what about Sahin

also , two German-Turks now play at Ferner, I think

both are very young

one decided to opt for Turkey the other for Germany

both were born in Germany though

Bastuerk would have been great for the Mannschaft as well

maybe Oezil will be the beginning of a change for the better

RicardoJol wrote:Kroesius

Where did these Turkish-Germans got their birth and education?

Both are born in Germany and of course educated there.

Of course we don´t call up youth players raised in Turkey or other countries.

kroesius wrote:

RicardoJol wrote:Kroesius

Where did these Turkish-Germans got their birth and education?

Both are born in Germany and of course educated there.

Of course we don´t call up youth players raised in Turkey or other countries.

I understand... Logically if they are good enough they always have to choose Germany over Turkey... but that's just my humble opinion...!

26-Otto-19 wrote:

kroesius wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:

the Turkish FA are really stealing our best talents

wahre G

In fact it´s more the other way around, nowadays.

not so sure

what about Sahin

also , two German-Turks now play at Ferner, I think

both are very young

one decided to opt for Turkey the other for Germany

both were born in Germany though

Bastuerk would have been great for the Mannschaft as well

maybe Oezil will be the beginning of a change for the better

It´s not just a feeling but a fact that the most top talented Turkish-German players opted to play for Germany in the last two or three years.
You can´t expect, that all Turkish talent will play for Germany of course. But a change is going to happen, that´s for sure.

You are talking about Calik and Özbek. Both came from Essen. Özbek (a Gattuso-type player)is much more talented than Calik. He is a starter for Galatasaray, while Calik is sitting on the bench most time.
Calik is not good enough for our U21 let alone for the A team.
He declared that he doesn´t see a future for himself in the German national team and
opted for Turkey. So it was definitely not a question of identity for him.

About Bastürk: He made his decision at least ten years ago at a time, when the DFB was only interested in Detlefs and Dieters.
He even said in a Kicker interview a few month ago, that he would have played for Germany if they asked him.

The Altintops: Halil wanted to play for Germany, but his brother Hamit convinced him to play Turkey.

Sahin. Well, he was on a DFB course, but these idiots didn´t see his talent.


Of course quite a few Turkish-German players will opt for Turkey in the future.
But it´s getting more and normal, that the top talents of foreign origin (I´m not only talking about Turks), who are born and raised in Germany will opt for Germany in the future.

To me it´s not a big surprise if you look at countries like US, France, Holland, England etc.