Mourinho @ Inter

Im sure you'll be fine..as long as the competition remains as easy then you'll keep winning the league

TITO wrote:Yeah, it looks like it's done.
Really foolish move by Moronatti. When will he learn?

Moronatti will never learn I guess.

I guess this will become a big spending summer... we might see some of Carvalho, Drogba, Lampard, etc coming in whether we need them or not.

At least Mancio leaves the squad in pretty good shape. At least 14-15 players have cemented their positions, and no coach will change them. Players like J Cesar, Toldo, Maicon, Zanetti, Cordoba, Chivu, Samuel, Maxwell, Rivas, Cambiasso, Dacourt, Ibra, Balotelli, Cruz, etc should be safe.

But for players like Materazzi, Vieira, Jimenez, Stankovic, Pele, Cesar A, Burdisso, Suazo, etc this may mean some sleepless nights. And for players on their way out like Figo, Crespo, Maniche, Solari, etc this may represent a ray of hope - which would be sad as those players must be let go of.

TITO wrote:Yeah, it looks like it's done.
Really foolish move by Moronatti. When will he learn?

Mourinho will be a success, reinvigorate serie A and make Inter the most hated club in Italy (if this isn't already the case)


I think it will be a great move. Playing Inter in europe will now be something teams fear which was not the case before

This is Mancini's own fault for resigning after the Liverpool game and then changing his mind. That made his position untenable. I'm not convinced Mourinho is a good idea, someone like Spalletti or Prandelli would have been better.

Murray wrote:This is Mancini's own fault for resigning after the Liverpool game and then changing his mind. That made his position untenable. I'm not convinced Mourinho is a good idea, someone like Spalletti or Prandelli would have been better.

I agree. Prandelli would have been perfect!

I think even Lippi may be able to get more out of our current resources than Mourinho, Lippi can easily improvise on Mancio's tactics and build on it. Mourinho is too big a change, tactically speaking, and I am not sure that is wise at this stage when we are champions.

Almost confirmed now

Mancini Agent: It’s Over!
The agent of Roberto Mancini has admitted that his client’s time as coach of Inter is probably over.
Stampa Articolo Invia ad un amico Contatta la redazione galleria zoom Speculation is spreading like wildfire that Mancini is no longer coach of Inter after his meeting with President Masimo Moratti this afternoon lasted just over 20 minutes.

Mancini has since refused to comment on the outcome of the meeting, but there are widespread reports that the pair have mutually agreed to rescind Mancio's contract, and that Jose Mourinho, who is said to be negotiating personal terms in Portugal with Inter director Marco Branca, will thus be named as his immediate replacement.

There is still no official confirmation of what appears to be a formality, but Mancini’s agent Giorgio De Giorgis has all but admitted that his client’s time at Inter is up.

"I do not know anything, as I have not yet managed to speak calmly with Roberto,” said De Giorgis.

“Is it all over? It certainly seems so, but I have no confirmation.”

Somewhat surprisingly De Giorgis added that Mancini had no intention of leaving Inter, which thus means any decision to let him go will have been Moratti’s.

“If the news was confirmed that he had left, surely it would be a big surprise and it would certainly be a decision by the club since he had no intention to leave and would never have done so out of respect for Moratti and the rest of the group for whom he has so far trained," the agent concluded.

This move can actually de-stabilize Inter further. What if Mourinho is not able to adapt that quick to the league?

It's not about adapting, he will adapt, he never had problems about that. The main issue is that he will think that Moronatti will fulfill his endless desires about new players everytime when something goes wrong.
As Blue stated, i fear that a lot of changes will be made in the club, regarding the players.
Actually, this is a good opportunity for other clubs to get some player from Inter for a reasonable price, if Mouthinho thinks that they are surplus to the team.
I heard a rumour about a player for player swap between Inter and Barca, regarding Ibrahimovic - Eto'o.

TITO wrote:It's not about adapting, he will adapt, he never had problems about that. The main issue is that he will think that Moronatti will fulfill his endless desires about new players everytime when something goes wrong.
As Blue stated, i fear that a lot of changes will be made in the club, regarding the players.
Actually, this is a good opportunity for other clubs to get some player from Inter for a reasonable price, if Mouthinho thinks that they are surplus to the team.
I heard a rumour about a player for player swap between Inter and Barca, regarding Ibrahimovic - Eto'o.

Exactly.

Unfortunately there is one further complication. What Mourinho will have to realise is that Moronatti does not give a free reign to the coach re the players. Some players have a special bond with the president, and are actually in a way out of a coaches control.

Thats why countless top coaches have failed at Inter, and that is why I really wanted Mancio to stay - he seemed to have worked it out. Tho not completely, Mancio's "resignation" post Liverpool had mostly to do with this issue. Some players thought they were above him, and I guess Figo refusing to come in as a sub was the last straw for Mancio.

Inter's main rivals have a much better management in that perspective. Juve are the most professionally run, and the coach works with professional directors to sort out transfers, while the players are at complete disposal of the coach. At Milan, Berlu does not indulge at such a personal level with the key players, as Moronatti does at Inter. I am yet to see Berlu calling a player "like his son".

It will be interesting to see how well Mourinho manages to cope with such an environment. He will quickly realise that he cannot touch players like Ibra, who are above the law. Mourinho will also realise that he will not have the kind of say in transfers as he did at Chelsea. Also, winning the scudetto will be considered par for the course by Moratti and most Inter faithful - Mourinho will have to quickly deliver in Europe. I don't envy Mourinho his job, if he indeed is the one replacing Mancio.

We can only hope for the best.

There were reports coming out that Mourinho has been taking intensive Italian classes near his house in Portugal. It's all been inevitable for a while, esp. like others said, after Mancini quit then changed his mind. And once Barça chose Pep, there was nowhere else that Mourinho could go.

Still, I'm in the same camp as Pierre and a minority of others - Mourinho is a good manager, but far too overrated. Plus the reported salary he's getting (9m euros) is an utter disgrace if true.

TITO wrote:I heard a rumour about a player for player swap between Inter and Barca, regarding Ibrahimovic - Eto'o.

Would think it more likely that Drogba will be on the way to San Siro.

Jaime wrote:

TITO wrote:I heard a rumour about a player for player swap between Inter and Barca, regarding Ibrahimovic - Eto'o.

Would think it more likely that Drogba will be on the way to San Siro.

That would be a stupid move because they already have Adriano back and Balottelli comeing up plus Crespo/Cruz. allthough with Mourinho coming in he might want to get in his favourites. only player imo he should get from Chelsea is Essien. Cambiasso-Essien could be very hard to break down.

Adriano still has a lot of convincing to do, Balotelli is very young, Crespo is past it and Cruz isn't that good. At the moment, Drogba is better than all of them.

Jaime wrote:Adriano still has a lot of convincing to do, Balotelli is very young, Crespo is past it and Cruz isn't that good. At the moment, Drogba is better than all of them.

That may be, but why spend any money when you have so many great strikers??

I think the striker situation at Inter is one of surplus, we should be selling not buying strikers this summer.

KEEP: Ibra, Adriano, Cruz, Suazo, & Balotelli
SELL: Recoba, Crespo and Acquafresca

bluenine wrote:

Jaime wrote:Adriano still has a lot of convincing to do, Balotelli is very young, Crespo is past it and Cruz isn't that good. At the moment, Drogba is better than all of them.

That may be, but why spend any money when you have so many great strikers??

I think the striker situation at Inter is one of surplus, we should be selling not buying strikers this summer.

KEEP: Ibra, Adriano, Cruz, Suazo, & Balotelli
SELL: Recoba, Crespo and Acquafresca

This is all based on the assumption that Mourinho is coming. And if he is, I don't think any of the strikers (however good they may or may not be) really suit his tactics.

COTR wrote:

TITO wrote:Yeah, it looks like it's done.
Really foolish move by Moronatti. When will he learn?

Mourinho will be a success, reinvigorate serie A and make Inter the most hated club in Italy (if this isn't already the case)


I think it will be a great move. Playing Inter in europe will now be something teams fear which was not the case before

Not when u get the advantage of an extra man in each game, no.

Given the kind of coach Mourinho is, he will come to Inter with his wish-list for sure. Moratti might also be attracted by the possibility of Lampard/Drogba/Essien/Carvalho coming to San Siro. And if that happens, that's when the team will get de-stabilized. Inter have been performing as a well knit unit for a couple of years. A few changes are fine but if Mourinho is looking to re-vamp, then Moratti has got the wrong man. Somehow, now I see the logic is what Bluenine has always been saying about retaining Mancini.

And add to the fact that Serie A is going to be a very competitive league this coming season with Roma, Fiorentina, Juventus & Milan getting stronger than last couple of seasons, there will be very little room for errors & that's why I strongly believe that Mourinho might not be able to adapt that quickly to a new league

TITO wrote:It's not about adapting, he will adapt, he never had problems about that. The main issue is that he will think that Moronatti will fulfill his endless desires about new players everytime when something goes wrong.
As Blue stated, i fear that a lot of changes will be made in the club, regarding the players.
Actually, this is a good opportunity for other clubs to get some player from Inter for a reasonable price, if Mouthinho thinks that they are surplus to the team.
I heard a rumour about a player for player swap between Inter and Barca, regarding Ibrahimovic - Eto'o.

TarunDang wrote:Given the kind of coach Mourinho is, he will come to Inter with his wish-list for sure. Moratti might also be attracted by the possibility of Lampard/Drogba/Essien/Carvalho coming to San Siro. And if that happens, that's when the team will get de-stabilized. Inter have been performing as a well knit unit for a couple of years. A few changes are fine but if Mourinho is looking to re-vamp, then Moratti has got the wrong man. Somehow, now I see the logic is what Bluenine has always been saying about retaining Mancini.

And add to the fact that Serie A is going to be a very competitive league this coming season with Roma, Fiorentina, Juventus & Milan getting stronger than last couple of seasons, there will be very little room for errors & that's why I strongly believe that Mourinho might not be able to adapt that quickly to a new league

Exactly.

Additionally, this move has cost us more than £60 Million, money which could have been better spent IMO.

Is going to be funny to see what Jose makes of Zlatan and Inter's other eccentric types. Could be chaos if he gets involved in an ego war with Zlatan!
60M to just swap managers? surely not...

According to the media, it was the players themselves who backed the decision to let go of Mancini.

Guess Mancini did not command much respect in the dressing room then. But then Zlatan & Figo are in for a rough ride because Mourinho is not the one to take it from them. It will be fun to watch what happens

Flamini wrote:According to the media, it was the players themselves who backed the decision to let go of Mancini.

Flamini wrote:According to the media, it was the players themselves who backed the decision to let go of Mancini.

These are just rumours. While it is clear that some players did not get along well with Mancio (Figo, Vieira, etc), there are many who always spoke positively of him and still do. Zanetti being a prime example, and I am certain he speaks for most players. He generally does.

Hence I am not sure how much of this "player revolt" is true, and how much of it is the usual drivel by Berlu's media.

Mancini's €30m Sacking

Inter president Massimo Moratti will have to pay Roberto Mancini €30m in compensation following the coach’s exit.

Reports in Italy suggest that the Nerazzurri chief will settle a massive pay off with Mancini after his contract was terminated on Tuesday evening. Jose Mourinho is already in Milan and hours away from signing a €9m per year deal.

However, before Moratti rolls cash towards the Portuguese coach, he has to settle the bill with Mancini.

According to CalcioMercato, the former Lazio player had five years left on his contract worth €6m per season.

Therefore Moratti has to give Mancini a €30m pay off. He also has to compensate the former coach’s assistants - including Sinisa Mihajlovic, who was Mancini’s number two - as well as goalkeeping coach Giulio Nuciari, Fausto Salsano, Dario Marcolin and Ivan Carminati, who were all Mancini’s coaching staff.

Inter tried to reach a deal with everyone over their final pay offs on Tuesday night but failed and now Moratti has to pay the full amount accordingly.

---Goal.com---

That is mind-boggling. 30m euros for what, someone who may take you to the semifinals rather than the Round of 16 of the CL?

They might think the competition in Italy might start getting tougher now and Mourinho is better prepared.

borocooper wrote:They might think the competition in Italy might start getting tougher now and Mourinho is better prepared.

What makes Mourinho better prepared??

Mancio built this squad to suit his formation, Mancio has worked all his managerial career in Serie A, and he has coped with the competition getting tougher each year very well so far.

And finally, I don't think the competition will get much tougher than last season. Last season was one of the most competitive Serie A's I have seen in a decade.

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Flamini wrote:

Hence I am not sure how much of this "player revolt" is true, and how much of it is the usual drivel by Berlu's media.

Seriously, let it go man. I don't think it was Berlu who forced Ibra to say "Moratti is always right." Moratti treated Mancini, who is a jerk, really poorly in all of this. Your Berlu media stuff has some weight, but it is becoming a bit silly. Milan are also openly arguing with Gazzetta like every other week. Gazzetta is a pro-Milan and pro-Inter paper btw. It was also not Berlu who told Mancini to announce that he is quitting after the game with Liverpool.

TarunDang wrote:Mancini's €30m Sacking

Inter president Massimo Moratti will have to pay Roberto Mancini €30m in compensation following the coach’s exit.

Reports in Italy suggest that the Nerazzurri chief will settle a massive pay off with Mancini after his contract was terminated on Tuesday evening. Jose Mourinho is already in Milan and hours away from signing a €9m per year deal.

However, before Moratti rolls cash towards the Portuguese coach, he has to settle the bill with Mancini.

According to CalcioMercato, the former Lazio player had five years left on his contract worth €6m per season.

Therefore Moratti has to give Mancini a €30m pay off. He also has to compensate the former coach’s assistants - including Sinisa Mihajlovic, who was Mancini’s number two - as well as goalkeeping coach Giulio Nuciari, Fausto Salsano, Dario Marcolin and Ivan Carminati, who were all Mancini’s coaching staff.

Inter tried to reach a deal with everyone over their final pay offs on Tuesday night but failed and now Moratti has to pay the full amount accordingly.

---Goal.com---

Hope this is true. Mourinho must be pissed for not being the only one getting big bucks for getting sacked.

Seems like this whole thing hasn't been handled that well. Mancini quite after the Liverpool match, then took it back.. and Moratti has seemed intent on bringing in Mourinho for some time now. He wasn't backing his manager and that's a bad situation, and things have gone pretty bad.

I'm not sure it's the most logical decision, I think it's based more on emmotion than anything else, but that doesn't exactly make it a bad move... but the manner it was all done is what makes things look bad to me.

bluenine wrote:

borocooper wrote:They might think the competition in Italy might start getting tougher now and Mourinho is better prepared.

What makes Mourinho better prepared??

Mancio built this squad to suit his formation, Mancio has worked all his managerial career in Serie A, and he has coped with the competition getting tougher each year very well so far.

And finally, I don't think the competition will get much tougher than last season. Last season was one of the most competitive Serie A's I have seen in a decade.

Most competitive but its still rebulding from all the scandals surely? The league isnt as strong as it could/should be. Mancini has had to win two titles in which the usual contenders have either been in a lower league or starting with points deductions and one where he was just given the title because of the scandal(thats right isnt it?)..and this season it was a $h!t AC Milan side that had far too many oldies in it and other than that the competition wasnt of a high enough standard to challenege properly and it took the Inter side nearly choking to death to let anyone near them..and they still won it.

I dont think Mourinho will disrupt it too much..im sure he'll want a few of his own players but that man isnt stupid, he managed to come into Chelsea buy alot of new players and win the league.

Mourinho is likely to be confirmed as the new Inter coach tomorrow.