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    Post by Jaime Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:04 am

    First table of the 08/09 season...Atletico on top? Yikes

    1 Atlético 3
    2 Valencia 3
    3 Almería 3
    4 Deportivo 3

    5 Getafe 3
    6 Espanyol 3

    7 Recreativo 3
    8 Numancia 3
    9 Osasuna 1
    10 Racing 1
    11 Sevilla 1
    12 Villarreal 1
    13 Real Madrid 0
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    18 Athletic 0
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    Post by EMP Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:42 am

    Damn Villar will have to wait at least another jornada for his suitcase then. Srves the greedy bastard right.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:15 am

    Gimenez - when will u learn u fucking c**t ?

    1 Andrés Palop (G)
    4 Sebastien Squillaci (D)
    16 David Prieto (D)
    18 Fernando Navarro (D)
    22 Ndri Romaric (M)
    8 Enzo Maresca (M)
    7 Gonzalez Jesus Navas (M)
    24 Abdoulay Konko (M)
    6 Adriano (M)
    12 Frederic Kanouté (F)
    10 Luis Fabiano (F


    Sevilla FC Substitutes
    No. NAME POS

    13 Javi Varas (S)
    23 Federico Fazio (S)
    19 Javier Chevanton (S) No
    5 Aldo Duscher (S)
    15 Aquivaldo Mosquera (S)
    3 Ivica Dragutinovic (S)
    17 Diego Capel


    Sevilla FC Substitutions
    Substitutions

    Diego Capel for Gonzalez Jesus Navas (63)
    Aldo Duscher for Ndri Romaric (70)
    Federico Fazio for Enzo Maresca (85)


    Don't make the same mistakes Ramos did u anus.
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    Post by fcb Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:03 am

    zizoued wrote:Move aside pretenders, here cometh the champs. Ale

    lol!

    The champs falleth flat on their face Laugh
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    Post by fcb Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:09 am

    stinger wrote:
    Desgraciats wrote:Still doesn't change the fact that we lost to a team we really should have beaten whereas Madriz always has problems at the Riazor.
    You didn't check history of Barcelona games in Numancia Smile. But still it was a must-win game for Barcelona.

    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/barcelona/es/desarrollo/1159890.html

    But again, I obviously agree with you guys. It should have been a comfortable win there.

    Now we'll see how Pep adapts, when he has to overcome other teams' tactics and not just rely on his players' superior talent and a lot of running around.
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    Post by Fade out Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:57 pm

    WE will be back Ale
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    Post by Hem fet un mal partit Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:12 pm

    would that be Madrid or "us"? Wink
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    Post by L.r.d Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:14 pm

    Marques over Pique, do me a favour. Barcelona basically seem the same.
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    Post by Fade out Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:17 pm

    Hem fet un mal partit wrote:would that be Madrid or "us"? Wink

    Man utd. afro
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    Post by fcb Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:17 pm

    L.r.d wrote:Marques over Pique, do me a favour. Barcelona basically seem the same.

    I know, I wanted Pique in there too. And Marquez out. Of the club.
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    Post by DeLux Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:29 pm

    Some funny chants from the turcos last night:

    Que salga Robinho oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Ronaldo oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Cazorla oh, oh, oh

    Illa, Illa, Illa ¿Donde esta Villa?
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    Post by Jaime Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:32 pm

    Olé wrote:Some funny chants from the turcos last night:

    Que salga Robinho oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Ronaldo oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Cazorla oh, oh, oh

    Illa, Illa, Illa ¿Donde esta Villa?


    Well at least we've all moved beyond Cesc and Kaka.
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    Post by Hem fet un mal partit Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:36 pm

    Olé wrote:Some funny chants from the turcos last night:

    Que salga Robinho oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Ronaldo oh, oh, oh
    Que salga Cazorla oh, oh, oh

    Illa, Illa, Illa ¿Donde esta Villa?

    That is hilarious!!
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    Post by fcb Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:49 pm

    http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/laligaloca/archive/2008/09/01/monday-s-bad-day-good-day-round-one.aspx


    Monday’s Bad Day, Good Day - Round One

    Monday 01 September 2008 14:00

    Bad Day

    Bernd Schuster

    Big Bernado stopped answering La Liga Loca’s texts a while back. There’s only so long someone can tolerate “Drop Raúl! DROP HIM! DROP HIM!” popping up on their phone 50 times a day. Laugh

    The blog feels like texting him again to invite him for an ice cream. Or perhaps a day out at Alton Towers. The Real Madrid manager looks like he could do with some happy times.

    Despite his fine joke about bribing referees - which will probably only encourage Sport and its ilk - Bernd looked even more glum than normal on Sunday evening. Having lost yet again at the Riazor, Schuster sighed that during the game,“I didn’t see a single striker on the bench. I looked to my left and there were none.”

    Despite having yelled into his president’s face “I need a striker!” at every opportunity, Aphex Twin ‘Come to Daddy’ style, Ramón Calderón has been too dumb / witless / pompous to get the message.

    “A signing now would be an improper improvisation for Real Madrid” said the Bernabeu big wig on Sunday. No Ramón, it would be quite a good idea.

    Pep Guardiola

    The footballing press on Monday blames Arsenal-style fannying about for Sunday’s defeat. Pep himself puts his managerial finger on the players failing to do what they were supposed to do.

    La Liga Loca reckons it was all down to the cardigan. Ever since Frank Rijkaard swapped his cool as a khaki-clad cucumber jackets and opted for boating blazers, Barcelona have been a bit minging.

    So it was no wonder when Pep stood on the touchline wearing a Marks and Sparks cardy, that Barcelona crashed to a slightly embarrassing defeat.

    Let’s face it, someone who looks like they have been sandblasted by Lacoste is hardly going to be effective with the backside-booting scariness that is supposed to be his core skill. Laugh

    Heaven knows what will happen if Pep goes for the deck shoes and jersey over the shoulder look in two weeks time.


    Pep looking menacing in his pretty cardy

    Sevilla

    A performance as flat an Ikea sun lounger after a game of musical chairs with Maniche. That’s what Manolo Jiménez claims anyway, after what had been a sparkling pre-season for his side. “It was one point lost,” moaned the Sevilla manager after their 1-1 draw away at Racing Santander.

    Athletic Bilbao

    La Liga Loca predicted a riot if things didn’t go well on Sunday for the home team. And that’s exactly what happened - apart from the car burning.

    A 3-1 opening loss to Almería in San Mamés brought more cries of pain, anguish, despair and abuse than an Andy and Lucas concert.

    Athletic’s ‘great step forward’ which consisted of flogging their best striker has yet to bear fruit. If it's a fruit-bearing step, that is.

    Real Betis

    Those long, luxurious summer days seem so far away, don’t they Betis fans? Another start of the season, another failure to beat Recreativo and their star signing, Mehmet Aurelio, hobbling off midway through the first half. Doh Happy days are here again.

    Zaragoza

    La Liga Loca is going to soil itself from time to time this season. Not in the “Run! Pedja is coming!” way but by getting down and dirty in the Segunda to track the progress of Zaragoza.

    The first report is not a good one - a side containing Ayala, Sergio, Arizmendi, Ewerthon and Oliveira lost 2-1 to Levante.

    TV Viewers

    The TV wars are back and nastier than ever. Two matches were blacked out for PPV customers this weekend - the opening Espanyol vs Valladolid clash and Sunday’s Athletic Bilbao vs Almería.

    As usual, Monday’s papers are squabbling over whose fault it is in the AVS vs Mediapro bust up. And as usual, very little concern is being shown over those who were ripped off by the blackout.

    And very little concern for how it is affecting the promotion of the league internationally. Little men and their little egos continue to rule the footballing roost in Spain.

    Oh. And how in Lucifer’s name did La Sexta’s Andrés Montes manage to get even more annoying and incompetent over the summer?

    Good Day

    Atlético Madrid

    The blog is afraid that this whole ‘Altético Madrid, really good' business is going to take a while to get used to. It should start sinking in by November.

    But on a non-match point, the blog notes that not a single Spanish born player was in the rojiblanco starting line-up. Which made Vicente del Bosque’s visit to the Calderón rather pointless.
    Doh

    Getafe

    Ha! How’d d’ya like them apples newbies! An excited Sporting were all spick and span as they looked forward to their first day back in the big league after a 10-year absence.

    That’s before the all-conquering, footballing death machine Getafe turned to rip them to shreds and discard their innards all over the gardens of Gíjon in a 2-1 win.

    “Die, puny scum!” roared Coliseum boss Victor Muñoz in the post match conference. ‘Laudrup is dead, long live Victor!’ says La Liga Loca.

    Deportivo

    “They didn’t play better than Madrid, but always had more resources and alternatives,” noted Marca on Deportivo’s performance on Sunday night. “They’re like Kryptonite to the Whites” writes a crestfallen Tomas Roncero.

    It was another famous night for the temporarily Super-Depor. Not only did they beat Real Madrid, yet again, but it was also announced that Riki is out for the next month. A good night’s work all round.

    Numancia

    The Sorians win over Barcelona on Sunday night has set the lazier football writer types off on Hovis style, plucky players, oh a budget eight thousand times smaller, ‘look, the goal-scorer eats coal for tea articles’ in Monday’s press.

    But look, Numancia’s budget is 13 million compared to Barcelona’s 380 million! And goal-scorer Mario just gets 125,000 euros a year. And eats coal for tea!

    Espanyol

    With the sun on his back and an Espanyol win in his heart, Paul from Barcelona is a happy man. Let’s hear the latest perico news from the Montjuic.

    “After a very nervous pre-season Espanyol started with a victory. A ‘well done you lot’ to a hundred Valladolid fans who made the trip to see their team start quite well.

    The red-tighted goalkeeper - yes you read that correctly - brought much amusement to your correspondent. 30 degrees in Barcelona in August!

    Wait till he gets to January in Valladolid (very very cold) and he takes to the field in a Snorkel parka and with sleigh dogs.

    Why am I telling you this? Well the first half was rubbish, that's why.

    The second half was much better, Luis Garcia did one thing all match and that was score the only goal of the game, in the third minute.

    He cut in from the left past two defenders then buried his shot into the far corner of the goal. Not literally of course. Yellow card offence having a spade on the field of play. Laugh

    The game got better, De La Peña went on mazy dribbles, Tamudo could and should have made it two. Espanyol's only major problems came in injury time when, in a scene from The Alamo, Valladolid pushed everyone forward. They hit the post and Kameni made a great fingertip save.

    One adult and two kittens was this week's stray cat count.

    At time of writing Numancia are winning, Please, please hold out.”

    Paul, Barcelona.





    Can someone pls post the articles from Phil Ball (Soccernet) and Sid Lowe (Guardian)?
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    Post by Hem fet un mal partit Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:17 pm

    Sid Lowe...

    Mario makes Barça pay as Numancia provide a heartwarming shock

    The story of Mario Martínez Rubio - who is paid 75 times less than Samuel Eto'o - is the perfect metaphor for his team's defeat of Barcelona.

    It couldn't have happened to a more deserving bloke. Mario Martínez Rubio is Numancia through and through. In fact, if you sliced Mario Martínez Rubio open not only would he bleed to death, he'd do it in Numancia's colours. Partly because Numancia's colour is freshly-hacked haemoglobin but also because young Mario spent his childhood bangin' on the big bass drum from Pajaritos stands; because his father was in the side that won promotion from the Third Division in 1989, taking Numancia to the Second Division B for the first time in their history; and because Mario himself was the first soriano ever to play for Numancia in primera, back in April 2005.

    Mario was born in Soria in March 1985, which isn't something many people can say. Soria is the smallest of Spain's 50 provinces, a forgotten corner that's not really anywhere, one of which Spaniards remark: "didn't there used to be a place there once?" Its provincial capital, Soria, boasts a mere 38,004 people while its stadium - the new Pajaritos - holds 9,300, is famous only for being bloody freezing in winter, and still rarely fills: despite winning the Second Division, last season's average gate was fractionally over 5,000. And although there were nearly twice as many sorianos in the stands yesterday, Mario was the only one on the pitch. A local boy done good whose mate David runs the local bar and who was only slightly exaggerating when he said: "I know most people in the crowd."

    So, it was fitting that Mario should get the winning goal with a thumping right-footer as Numancia equalled their best-ever top flight run by clocking up one consecutive victory. But, wait, it gets even better - this tale warms the cockles of your heart. Because not only is Mario a local boy for a local club, he's also your classic humble hero.

    For Mario, boys and girls, is poor. Not proper poor - he doesn't rattle a tin at passers-by, drink Meths or shout incoherently whilst slowly soiling his slacks - but football poor. For Mario is the worst paid player in primera. He's got the carefully crafted spiky front and mullet back combo, he's got a red Audi, and he's got the CK boxers, tight Versace T-shirt and gold chain but he lives at home with his little brother and his mum, who runs the local false leg and fake hip emporium. He gets paid €120,000 a year. That's 83 - eight-three - times less than Raúl, 75 times less than Samuel Eto'o. The same Raúl and Eto'o who, unlike Mario, didn't score yesterday as Real Madrid and Barcelona lost on the opening day for the first time since 1939, Atlético Madrid went top four years on, and Valencia stuffed Mallorca to go second.

    Thierry Henry earns more in a week - almost twice as much more, in fact - than Mario does in a year. But still the soriano and his mates got the better of the Frenchman and his. You see, not only did Mario get the winner on the opening day, he got the winner against Football Club Barcelona. And that's the point: Mario's not alone and his story is the perfect metaphor for Numancia's 1-0 victory, a step towards the most endearing footballing clichés known to man. Because if FC Barcelona are the country's Goliath, Club Deportivo Numancia are David. The poor relation. The small fish. The minnow (which is a small fish, apparently). The underdog.

    Barcelona are Spain's richest club; Numancia are its most modest. Barcelona boast a €380m budget, the division's biggest, and spent €79.5m this summer; Numancia boast a budget of €4.5m, the division's lowest, and didn't spend a euro. Leo Messi alone earns more than Numancia's annual budget; not one of Mario's team-mates takes home more than €180,000. You could fit the whole of Soria into the Camp Nou and still it would be less than half full; you could fit 10 Pajaritos in and still squeeze a few thousand of their mates alongside. Barcelona have won 18 leagues; Numancia once finished 17th. Barcelona have won 24 Cups; Numancia still celebrate 1996, when they reached the quarter-finals and drew with Barça. Barcelona's coach ran one of the finest ever midfields; Numancia's ran Fawlty Towers.

    But still Barcelona couldn't beat them. Sergio Kresic admitted that "Barcelona had more chances and we had more luck". He was right. Just as the ref was right to send off Numancia's disappearing ball-boys. But that doesn't hide the fact that Barça's display was depressingly familiar for fans. As El País put it, Barcelona have stopped drinking and smoking but they still have bad habits. "We've seen it all before," sighed Sport. Barcelona boasted 70% of possession and took 26 shots, twice hitting the post, but lacked width and penetration, then got caught on the break. A left-wing cross to the far post, no sign of Eric Abidal - just for a change, like - and Mario smashed the winner. "There's no excuse. We never attacked properly," grumbled Pep Guardiola, who was wearing his grandad's cardigan for the occasion. "The players did not fulfil their obligations. Instead of opening the pitch out, we were narrow."

    For Barcelona, the only good news as they boarded the bus for the six-hour return trip was that foster family Real Madrid - unsettled by Robinho's "you're not my dad" tantrum at Bernd Schuster that morning - couldn't win either, going down 2-1 at Riazor where they've not won in 18 visits. For Numancia, it was a glimmer of hope, where once there was none. Poetic president Francisco Rubio Garcés insisted he'd built a squad made up of "hombres con hambre" - men with hunger (in the will-to-win sense, not the Maniche one). But there is no escaping the fact that it is also a squad built on the cheap, small and inexperienced. Numancia's next opponents are Madrid and Villarreal and they should struggle this season. Yesterday, though, no one cared. It was time to celebrate good times. And while Thierry Henry moped all the way to the bank, Mario laughed all the way to David's bar.

    Results: Espanyol 1-0 Valladolid, Valencia 3-0 Mallorca, Numancia 1-0 Barcelona, Athletic 1-3 Almería, Atlético 4-0 Málaga, Betis 0-1 Recreativo, Sporting 1-2 Getafe, Racing 1-1 Sevilla, Osasuna 1-1 Villarreal, Deportivo 2-1 Madrid.



    DESGRACIATS!!!


    (but good article)
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:19 pm

    Hem fet un mal partit wrote: And while Thierry Henry moped all the way to the bank, Mario laughed all the way to David's bar.

    Great closer Ale

    I really love these kinds of stories/articles ok
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:40 am

    Hem fet un mal partit wrote: made up of "hombres con hambre" - men with hunger (in the will-to-win sense, not the Maniche one).
    lol!
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:45 am

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=568485&sec=europe&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1


    First day fumbles

    By Phil Ball

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    Robinho: Overvalued by Real, despite them now knowing he is not Schuster's son.


    Even before the Sunday games got under way for this, the opening
    weekend of the new Spanish season, Real Madrid's out-of-favour
    Brazilian Robinho, left behind in Madrid as the team travelled to
    Coruaña to play Deportivo, announced that he would tell the press 'the
    scandal of the century', or words to that effect. In
    the end, he told the mass of flashing light-bulbs that 'Schuster isn't
    my father' - which the German probably already knew. So instead of a
    paternity suit to start the new season with, last year's champions lost
    again to Deportivo, making it eighteen years in the Riazor without a
    win. Van Nistlerooy (who else?) scored Madrid's 4,999th goal in
    professional competition since 1929, but it is almost certain that
    Robinho will not be the scorer of the 5,000th. This should
    hardly matter to Real Madrid anyway, who secretly have little
    confidence in him, but who nevertheless have tried to extract the
    maximum amount from Abramovich's pocket before the deadline. Chelsea
    would be mad to pay any more than £10m for him, but logic has long
    since departed the European football scene. Arjen Robben is a far
    better player, and Madrid know it. Chelsea don't seem to, but that's
    their problem. You just feel that they might try to go about things in
    a slightly less absurd manner to begin the season - accusing Chelsea of
    exactly the same conduct of which they were guilty throughout the
    summer in 'Ronaldogate'. Whatever, when was the last time that
    the season got under way with the big two both losing? Aw gawd, that's
    a tricky one at midnight on a Sunday, so I'll shirk the question by
    simply suggesting that it's a long time. Barcelona, as you may have
    gathered, also came a cropper up in the wilds of Soria at Numancia
    (1-0), to get Pep Guardiola off to a less than auspicious start. Then again, other teams will also struggle at Los Pajaritos
    this season, where Sergio Kresic has taken over a solid if
    unspectacular squad for a renewed attempt to stay in the top flight,
    their last attempt having been in the 2004-05 season when they were
    relegated back straight away. Not too much should be read into their
    beating of Barça, since it was always going to be a tough call for the
    Catalans on the opening day at a stadium in every aspect a million
    miles removed from their own - but it won't do Numancia's confidence
    any harm and it does confirm what many commentators have been saying -
    that they are much more likely to stay the course than the other two
    promoted clubs, Sporting and Málaga. Next week they visit Real
    Madrid, which should prove more than interesting. But talk about a
    baptism of fire. From the third week onwards, it's all downhill for
    them.The inevitable question for the opening column of the
    season concerns, as ever, whether any team is capable of sustaining a
    real challenge to the big two. Villarreal were magnificent last season,
    and looking at their squad for the present one you have to say that the
    midfield they have put together is probably the best in the league, at
    least on paper.
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    Deportivo's second goal goes in at the Riazor.


    It remains a mystery how a side on their relatively limited resources
    have managed to pull off this feat, but pull it off they have. Spain's
    victory in the Euro 2008 would have been unlikely without the backbone
    that this team provided, and the further miracle in the wake of that
    fantastic competition is that Marcos Senna and Santi Cazorla are still
    there. Senna was tempted to join Dani Güiza at Fenerbahce but decided
    against it in the end, and Cazorla was briefly tempted by Real Madrid
    before also concluding that it might be better to stay put. Ariel
    Ibagaza has joined them from Mallorca, and whilst he has been an
    inconsistent performer over the years, he is nevertheless a fine
    player. The deceptive and tricky Joseba Llorente has been added to the
    strikeforce from Valladolid, and Llorente has always scored goals. What
    he lacks in pace he makes up for in guile, and it will be interesting
    to see how he fares with Nihat, once the Turk recovers. Meanwhile
    the interesting signing from the USA, Josmer Altidore, may well get
    some games in if Rossi also fails to recover. Perhaps the distractions
    of the Champions League will prove their undoing, but at their last
    time of asking they made the semi-finals. A draw up at Osasuna seemed a
    decent enough start, but they'll want the three points against
    Deportivo next week to really get back last season's feel-good factor. Atlético
    Madrid? Sevilla? Valencia? Atlético got off to a great start, beating
    Málaga 4-0, but Málaga are the least likely of the promoted clubs to
    stay the course. Atlético are also in the Champions League this season
    but have made no real significant additions to their squad - Sinama
    Pongolle being the only real signing of note - but in Kun Agüero they
    have a potential great, as we now know. The only problem for the club
    is that if he really does have the great season that he is promising,
    he'll sign for Chelsea at the end of the campaign and Atlético will
    revert back to being their usual messy selves. Sevilla seem
    intent on a long and agonising period of deconstruction, whose aim is
    anyone's guess. Dani Alves has gone to Barça, but that was always on
    the cards. Keita has also gone to the Camp Nou and Poulsen, so often
    the anchor man of the side, has gone to Juventus. Luis Fabiano has not
    gone to Tottenham after all, but if he stays the entire season it will
    be a surprise. Aldo Duscher, Beckham's old friend, has been signed to
    fill Poulsen's place in midfield, but he's hardly the stuff that a
    title challenge is made of. Capel, Duda, Navas and Fabiano are still
    there, as is Kanouté, but it's difficult to see them having a better
    season than the last one, despite their late showing. Valencia
    hammered Mallorca 3-0 to dispel some of the gloom that was still around
    in the summer, but at the time of writing Real Madrid were still
    insisting that they would attempt to sign David Villa before the Monday
    close of business. It makes you wonder why they didn't simply begin the
    process post-Euro 2008, instead of flirting so ridiculously with
    Cristiano Ronaldo, but there you go. Villa and Silva are still at the
    Mestalla, Albelda is back, as is Angulo, and their young manager Unai
    Emery is clearly a bit of a star, but there are still boardroom
    disputes to settle, an unclear new stadium project and the weight of
    last season's traumatic events still hovering in the air. This season
    should be less disastrous (it would be difficult to surpass last
    season's collective farce) but a serious challenge in the league looks
    unlikely.
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    Samuel Eto'o was not one of Barcelona's departures. He shows the pain of loss at Numancia.


    Racing and Almería, last season's surprise packages, should be fine
    again this season, but Mallorca, who also had a more than decent
    campaign, have been weakened over the summer and may struggle. In
    general, the happy events of Euro 2008 have cast a golden sheen once
    again on La Liga, after England's Premier League threatened to
    overshadow it with its dominance of last season's Champions League. The
    mass export of players has not happened, and Deco remains the only real
    loss of genuine talent for this campaign - but he's Brazilian/Portugese
    anyway. Real Madrid have only signed Van de Vaart, and if
    no-one else is forthcoming, they will have to hope that their ageing
    strikeforce stays the course. Another failure in Europe this
    season may spell the end for Calderón and Mijatovic. Barça have lost
    some significant names (Ronaldinho, Deco, Oleguer, Edmilson, Thuram,
    Zambrotta) but have signed two wonderful players in Hleb and Alves. The
    only question is whether Hleb, particularly, will fit in - given that
    Iniesta is a very similar player. Hleb is the type of player
    Real Madrid should have bought, but they were far too busy on a wild
    goose-chase. If they stutter this season, people will look back on the
    summer of 2008 and begin to point the finger.
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:07 pm

    Gossip from Revista La Liga

    - Guardiola is unimpressed with Messi who had been given strict instructions as to what to do in the Numancia match, but ignored them and played pretty much where and how he liked, as he did under Rijkaard.

    - Eto'o's survived the summer clearout by playing his cards exactly right - not talking to the press; turning down every bid and putting forward exorbitant wage demands to put off clubs who came in for him (eg Spurs) and putting his head down and training hard.

    - Madrid damaged by all the wrangling between Calderon, Mijatovic and Schuster which has filtered through to the team. Casillas gave one of his anodyne interviews but afterwards, off camera, was scathing about Robinho's behavior (it was filmed before the transfer) and said he could not possibly stay in the team after all he'd said.

    - Madrid made a last-ditch bid for Villa last night.

    - Joaquin was left out of Valencia squad after hinting at an offer from another team. That unfortunately existed only in his head - he thought Madrid would come for him after selling Robinho. Nothing doing, and no other team came for him all summer, so he's staying.
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    Post by stinger Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:19 pm

    Arjen Robben is a far better player, and Madrid know it. Chelsea don't seem to, but that's their problem.
    Hmmmmm, it's maybe arguable that he's better, but somebody clearly don't like Robinho. Or just rates one-legged Robben very very high.


    - Guardiola is unimpressed with Messi who had been given strict instructions as to what to do in the Numancia match, but ignored them and played pretty much where and how he liked, as he did under Rijkaard.
    Sounds interesting. But I am more wondering what instructions Pep gave to Dani Alves, since I still see him cutting to the middle (off the ball) instead of overlapping on sunday, and I still don't understand it.
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    Post by Calidad Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:10 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:

    - Joaquin was left out of Valencia squad after hinting at an offer from another team. That unfortunately existed only in his head - he thought Madrid would come for him after selling Robinho. Nothing doing, and no other team came for him all summer, so he's staying.

    lol!
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:13 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    TheCrazy58 wrote:

    - Joaquin was left out of Valencia squad after hinting at an offer from another team. That unfortunately existed only in his head - he thought Madrid would come for him after selling Robinho. Nothing doing, and no other team came for him all summer, so he's staying.

    lol!
    If that is true it is truly depressing because it would mean Calderon and Mijatovic are perhaps even dumber then i thought. i thought that he was tired of all the talks so therefore he rejected a move in the end. if this is it then im almost on a plane to madrid to bomb the idiots.

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