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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:47 pm

    With the blue half of Manchester feeling increasingly optimistic about the future, the same cannot be said of their rivals in red.

    The double winners have had their successful 2008 season celebrations dampened by the summer and pre season antics of wantaway Cristiano Ronaldo. And although they may have finalised their deadline day marquee signing, 6 major cogs in the Manchester United machine are on their way out of the door.

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    After winning the Champions League Ferguson stated his intention to leave Manchester United within the next three years and it is not unrealistic to expect Neville, Van der Saar, Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldo to have already left the club by then. With no obvious replacements for Fergie or Ronaldo, replacements Brown, Foster, Nani and Anderson far from convincing, the competitive financial muscle coming from Chelsea and Manchester City and the youthful squads at Arsenal and Liverpool, can United recover from this loss?

    United's squad has been trimmed considerably in the past few years as multiple fringe players are sold on in order to finance expensive signings, it seems the purse strings are tighter than usual at United, and although the sale of Ronaldo will generate much needed transfer funds, how much will it cost to find world class replacements for Van der Saar, Neville, Scholes, Giggs and Ronaldo? Or if it is deemed that the injury prone Foster, Hargreaves, Nani and Anderson are sufficient how much will it cost to replace them in the squad? Chelsea and City forcing the prices up surely will not help.

    And finally, the big man. The boozer. The gaffer. The puss heed. How will United ever replace him?

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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:28 am

    Alex looks strapping in that picture Ale
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    The Easter Bunny wrote:Alex looks strapping in that picture Ale
    he must of only had one bottle.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:59 pm

    I think today's game was a good illustration of the point I was making.

    Giggs and Scholes are past it, Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Nani aren't good enough and although Hargreaves is excellent he is injury prone.
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    Post by Luis Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:02 pm

    I think United may finish 3rd or 4th, I really do.
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:04 pm

    When Ronaldo comes back everything is back to normal.
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:05 pm

    Need your defence to get their act together as well. In a game like this last season you probably would have dug in, sat deep and held out at the back. This season you've been offering up soft chances and soft goals in most of your games.
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    Post by Historicus Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:09 pm

    Luis wrote:I think United may finish 3rd or 4th, I really do.

    They could finish 3rd if we can keep up this form, Arsenal don't have the quality to finish better than 4th. I think the title is Chelsea's to lose at this point. Their only problem is the injury to Essien leaves them lacking at DM, but I don't see them falling lower than 2nd place by January and they can buy a DM in the window then.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:10 pm

    L.r.d wrote:When Ronaldo comes back everything is back to normal.

    Ronaldo is leaving Lrd, he'd be gone already if he wasn't injured.
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:11 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Need your defence to get their act together as well. In a game like this last season you probably would have dug in, sat deep and held out at the back. This season you've been offering up soft chances and soft goals in most of your games.

    Ronaldo brigs more than just goals or attacking. The whole mentality is different for both teams. The other team defends deeper, defensive corners are dealt with better. Today Liverpool were better by a distance but still two easily avoidable mistakes is what cost the game. These wont happen on normal days.
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    Post by Luis Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:13 pm

    So lrd finally admits United are a one man team
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:13 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:Need your defence to get their act together as well. In a game like this last season you probably would have dug in, sat deep and held out at the back. This season you've been offering up soft chances and soft goals in most of your games.

    Ronaldo brigs more than just goals or attacking. The whole mentality is different for both teams. The other team defends deeper, defensive corners are dealt with better. Today Liverpool were better by a distance but still two easily avoidable mistakes is what cost the game. These wont happen on normal days.

    An easily avoidable mistake by Masch switching off and you wouldn't have scored more than likely.

    It works both ways Very Happy
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:14 pm

    Ade Riera wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:
    Sheffield gunner wrote:Need your defence to get their act together as well. In a game like this last season you probably would have dug in, sat deep and held out at the back. This season you've been offering up soft chances and soft goals in most of your games.

    Ronaldo brigs more than just goals or attacking. The whole mentality is different for both teams. The other team defends deeper, defensive corners are dealt with better. Today Liverpool were better by a distance but still two easily avoidable mistakes is what cost the game. These wont happen on normal days.

    An easily avoidable mistake by Masch switching off and you wouldn't have scored more than likely.

    It works both ways Very Happy

    Doh

    Yeah that was anything like the two that gave Liverpool goals.
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    Post by COTR Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:18 pm

    Well Lrd we really should have scored more so it's hard to use the argument you are using. Kuyt missed two of the easiest chances you will ever see in these type of games and keane had three or four air shots which were great chances

    We were all over you mate. If chelsea can produce the same type of midfield domination they could make you pay far more than we did
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:20 pm

    COTR wrote:Well Lrd we really should have scored more so it's hard to use the argument you are using. Kuyt missed two of the easiest chances you will ever see in these type of games

    We were all over you mate. If chelsea can produce the same type of midfield domination they could make you pay far more than we did

    You always should in your mind COTR. Liverpool dominated the second half but again the rest is nonsense. The only chances i can really recall were Kuyt's again one from a corner that you shouldn't have had. And the other is it when was 2-1 in the dying minutes so of course the gaps will be there but they were there due to those mistakes. Liverpool deserve to win, but i don't see any huge problems with Man Utd.
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    Post by COTR Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:22 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    COTR wrote:Well Lrd we really should have scored more so it's hard to use the argument you are using. Kuyt missed two of the easiest chances you will ever see in these type of games

    We were all over you mate. If chelsea can produce the same type of midfield domination they could make you pay far more than we did

    You always should in your mind COTR. Liverpool dominated the second half but again the rest is nonsense. The only chances i can really recall were Kuyt's again one from a corner that you shouldn't have had. And the other is it when was 2-1 in the dying minutes so of course the gaps will be there but they were there due to those mistakes. Liverpool deserve to win, but i don't see any huge problems with Man Utd.
    You never do in your mind Lrd Wink

    There are no 'major' problems, but hargreaves is your only top quality centre mid so good teams will always have a great chance to overrun you
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:23 pm

    Not really, Anderson is a great central midfielder, Carrick is not to shabby, and Scholes will still have his good days. The problem was it wasn't one of Scholes good days, hargreaves wasn't fit, and Carrick got injured.

    And the first part is not true COTR, you know what i was like when Smith was starting in midfield Ale
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    Post by Historicus Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:27 pm

    Anderson is very limited offensively.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:29 pm

    Once Carrick is back they'll be grand.
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    Post by COTR Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:30 pm

    L.r.d wrote:Not really, Anderson is a great central midfielder, Carrick is not to shabby, and Scholes will still have his good days. The problem was it wasn't one of Scholes good days, hargreaves wasn't fit, and Carrick got injured.

    And the first part is not true COTR, you know what i was like when Smith was starting in midfield Ale

    Anderson is alright but he does nothing particularly great. He is just there

    Carrick again is alright but isn't good / strong enough to last the pace in the top games

    Scholes is finished. Save him to hammer hull

    We'll see anyway if fergie has the confidence to play 4-4-2 this season with just two of them or if one of your attackers is going to be made to track back all season because the centre mids don't have the strength to match up against good teams.

    Hargreaves and carrick is probably your best options at the minute


    P.S Smith is a Old Trafford hero strangely lrd so lay off
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    Post by Luis Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:31 pm

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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:32 pm

    The talent is there, the balance isn't just yet. It will sort itself out.
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    Post by COTR Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:33 pm

    L.r.d wrote:The talent is there, the balance isn't just yet. It will sort itself out.

    I.e when the team returns


    When is he back btw Question
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:35 pm

    COTR wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:The talent is there, the balance isn't just yet. It will sort itself out.

    I.e when the team returns


    When is he back btw Question

    2-3 weeks should be now. Not long at all. The team will be fine without him once the balance is there. But days like today even when it's wrong, he can still make the result in our favour. That's why he's worth 135 million
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:36 pm

    They may have slipped up v Yids but if Chelsea could get 3 points out of a very tough fixture this evening I can't see United or 'pool getting that near to them.
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:38 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They may have slipped up v Yids but if Chelsea could get 3 points out of a very tough fixture this evening I can't see United or 'pool getting that near to them.

    What is so good about Chelsea?

    I personally don't think they'll get 3 points or more combined out of the next 2 fixtures.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:40 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They may have slipped up v Yids but if Chelsea could get 3 points out of a very tough fixture this evening I can't see United or 'pool getting that near to them.

    What is so good about Chelsea?


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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:40 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They may have slipped up v Yids but if Chelsea could get 3 points out of a very tough fixture this evening I can't see United or 'pool getting that near to them.

    What is so good about Chelsea?

    I personally don't think they'll get 3 points or more combined out of the next 2 fixtures.

    the last 2 predictions I saw you make were for Murray and United wins.

    Going for a hat trick?
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    Post by L.r.d Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:42 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They may have slipped up v Yids but if Chelsea could get 3 points out of a very tough fixture this evening I can't see United or 'pool getting that near to them.

    What is so good about Chelsea?

    I personally don't think they'll get 3 points or more combined out of the next 2 fixtures.

    the last 2 predictions I saw you make were for Murray and United wins.

    Going for a hat trick?

    I wasn't making a prediction?

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