Spain vs. England - Feb 11th (Seville)

Carlton Cole deserves his call up, he can be a perfect for the 433, which should be given a shot.
--------Green-------

Young------Jagielka-------Rio--------Cole

----------Carrick---------Barry---------

---------------Lampard--------------

Agbonlahor--------------------Young

-----------------Cole-----------------

I'd still have Heskey before Cole. Not only on ability but because he's more experienced with the England side and he'd have a better understanding with Gabby and Young if they did play.

DS wrote:Carlton Cole deserves his call up, he can be a perfect for the 433, which should be given a shot.
--------Green-------

Young------Jagielka-------Rio--------Cole

----------Carrick---------Barry---------

---------------Lampard--------------

Agbonlahor--------------------Young

-----------------Cole-----------------

Good line up

Won't happen though sadly.

Parks lives wrote:I'd still have Heskey before Cole. Not only on ability but because he's more experienced with the England side and he'd have a better understanding with Gabby and Young if they did play.

The Villa 3.
I would like to see Cole because it is a friendly.

Spain squad:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Pepe Reina (Liverpool).
Defenders: Raul Albiol (Valencia), Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Alvaro Arbeloa (Liverpool), Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Juan Gutierrez (Real Betis), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid).
Midfielders: Xabi Alonso (Liverpool), Albert Riera (Liverpool), Sergi Busquets (Barcelona), Santiago Cazorla (Villarreal), Marcos Senna (Villarreal), Xavi Hernandez (Barcelona), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), David Silva (Valencia).
Forwards: Daniel Guiza (Fenerbahce), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao ), Fernando Torres (Liverpool), David Villa (Valencia).

I thought Fabregas' injury might have opened the door for Arteta.

He'll be eligible for England in January 2010.

Disgraceful that Bent's been omitted yet again. At least his fellow Tottenham strikers Jermain Defoe and Roman Pavlyuchenko have been left out though.

Messiah wrote:just looking at the squads england will be lucky if the can keep the deference to 3 goals


--------------Iker

--Ramos---Puyol--Marchena---Capdevilla


---Silve----Xavi----Alonso---Iniesta

----------Torre----Villa

vs

James
Johnson-Ferdinand-Terry-Cole
Beckham-Barry-Lampard-Downing
Heskey-Agbonlahor

= slaughter, now if only football where played on paper.

England have a better defence than Spain

Puyol Marchena against Carlton Cole will be a sight.

Ray Parlour wrote:

Messiah wrote:just looking at the squads england will be lucky if the can keep the deference to 3 goals


--------------Iker

--Ramos---Puyol--Marchena---Capdevilla


---Silve----Xavi----Alonso---Iniesta

----------Torre----Villa

vs

James
Johnson-Ferdinand-Terry-Cole
Beckham-Barry-Lampard-Downing
Heskey-Agbonlahor

= slaughter, now if only football where played on paper.

England have a better defence than Spain

Yeah I doubt Spain will spank England at all. Allthough Del Bosque has continued improving the team bit by bit Capellos teams tend to be quite cagey. Strange that Capello hasn't called up Young but they still get good crosses from Downing and Becks so I can defo see Heskey giving trouble to Puyol and Agbonlahor. England won't be able to compete with the ball but if they can use the flanks well and get crosses they can definently give Spain trouble so this could be a very good game.

Barry and Carrick are quite intelligent footballers and they have a physical side too as both can be the DMs, neither Alonso and Xavi can be that as both need DMs alongside them, it wont be easy for Spain to dominate the midfield.

Swap Beckham for a younger winger (not SWP) and I reckon England could beat Spain. Barry and Lampard is a match for Xavi and Alonso. Mind you I think Xavi is overrated.

Khadrim wrote:Swap Beckham for a younger winger (not SWP) and I reckon England could beat Spain. Barry and Lampard is a match for Xavi and Alonso. Mind you I think Xavi is overrated.

You having a laugh on all fronts there. 1-1 written all over it i reckon. Spain will have a lot more possession especially if lumpard plays. But England are a much better team with a lot more confidence these days, so they will definitely create chances and make a few good moves themselves.

I hope to see Lennon, Agbonlahor and Young all on at the same time at some point in the match.

Lennon ain't even in the squad. Have to make do with SWP.

Oh jesus nevermind.

I want to see a field of 22 players without SWP at all times

Puts to death this shit players spout about moving to Spurs to further their England careers doesnt it?

Its all about money, Downing, you lying little squid fiddler.

Khadrim wrote:Swap Beckham for a younger winger (not SWP) and I reckon England could beat Spain. Barry and Lampard is a match for Xavi and Alonso. Mind you I think Xavi is overrated.

Poor man's Cesc

*Waits for Messiah

Ray Parlour wrote:

Khadrim wrote:Swap Beckham for a younger winger (not SWP) and I reckon England could beat Spain. Barry and Lampard is a match for Xavi and Alonso. Mind you I think Xavi is overrated.

Poor man's Cesc

*Waits for Messiah

Hope i didn't have you waiting for too long.

Ray is right.

Xavi is overrated. He wasnt Spain's MVP at the Euro's not sure what the judges were watching.

Last year he was piss poor for Farsa aswell.

I'd take Cesc and Xabi Alonso over Xavi.

says the madrid fan.

Golsud said he wanted Baarca to sell Xavi after last season. Any cule with half a brain cell tell you Xavi was shit last season.

He was okay at the Euro's, but Senna, Torres, Iniesta and Villa all were more important to the international team at the Euro's. Yet somehow Xavi wins the awards

Xavi was most certainly the most important player for Spain along with Villa in the Euros.

He was in poor form in 07/08 like the entire Barcelona side but as you can see this year he has been splendid.

If we had a player like Xavi we would play 100 times better.

Yeah we could do with a player that can pass the ball side ways

He's been in good form this season, but then again all the Barca players have been.

Stil can't believe how Senna's performances at the Euros went unnoticed.

No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

going by last season everyone bar messi and iniesta should have been sold.

as for cesc and alonso being better than xavi

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Jaime wrote:No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

I'd say Iniesta directs the play for Barca more than Xavi, not saying he doesn't. But Iniesta is usually the one running with the ball making those defence splitting passes.

TM wrote:

Jaime wrote:No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

I'd say Iniesta directs the play for Barca more than Xavi, not saying he doesn't. But Iniesta is usually the one running with the ball making those defence splitting passes.

I think Iniesta is a player for the last 1/3. I don't think he's as useful playing deeper and orchestrating the play.

Jaime wrote:

TM wrote:

Jaime wrote:No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

I'd say Iniesta directs the play for Barca more than Xavi, not saying he doesn't. But Iniesta is usually the one running with the ball making those defence splitting passes.

I think Iniesta is a player for the last 1/3. I don't think he's as useful playing deeper and orchestrating the play.

So what does Xavi do exactly?

Yaya Toure breaks down the oppositions play, wins the ball back. Iniesta is the final third player, creating the goal scoring chances.

TM wrote:

Jaime wrote:No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

I'd say Iniesta directs the play for Barca more than Xavi, not saying he doesn't. But Iniesta is usually the one running with the ball making those defence splitting passes.

and that equals directing the play,

i guess it kaka that directs the play for milan and not pirlo

i thought you knew football.

iniesta/guddy/kieta are the ones that support the strikers, (you know make the late runs, try to find the ST with a splitting ball) xavi is the one that takes the ball of the DMED and dictates the play, when he says fast we go fast, when he says slow we slow down the play, he is the one that very thing goes though.

he was shit at it last year which is why i wanted him to be sold, be he is back to his best this season

iniesta only does this when xavi isn't playing.

Messiah wrote:

TM wrote:

Jaime wrote:No, we could do with a player that directs the play. We have Lass and Gago that can pass sideways. Xavi only passes sideways when there is nothing available farther up the pitch.

I'd say Iniesta directs the play for Barca more than Xavi, not saying he doesn't. But Iniesta is usually the one running with the ball making those defence splitting passes.

and that equals directing the play,

i guess it kaka that directs the play for milan and not pirlo

i thought you knew football.

iniesta/guddy/kieta are the ones that support the strikers, (you know make the late runs, try to find the ST with a splitting ball) xavi is the one that takes the ball of the DMED and dictates the play, when he says fast we go fast, when he says slow we slow down the play, he is the one that very thing goes though.

he was shit at it last year which is why i wanted him to be sold, be he is back to his best this season

iniesta only does this when xavi isn't playing.

A better word would have been dictate. Besides Pirlo isn't a good example, with him being out of form this season

18 assist, 8 goals

he,messi and a fit again iniesta are the creative fulcrum of our team