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    Post by debaser Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:15 am

    Bash - agreed. Defence is iffy and they haven't got a natural partner for Crouch (although I've yet to see Gekas). And now whoever comes in is too late to bring any players.

    They probably need a strong, experienced character like Fulham got with Hodgson. I wouldn't really fancy Curbishley to pick them up. Always seemed a bit uninspiring - even though he was in charge for WHam's survival.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:55 pm

    The HuddFather™️ wrote:
    Do I fuck!

    The squad is talented, but piss weak mentally & physically. Horribly imbalanced & we don't have a set blueprint to play by.

    Remind me of Owen's wages?

    Owen gets over 100k a week and cost £17m, and still he is better value for money than the likes of Bentley and Pavlywhatever.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:37 pm

    borocooper wrote:Nothing today. Saved your arse in the last game though.

    Didn't we lose? Laughing
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:43 pm

    Probably knowing your lot. Bent did all he could though, to save you..and all he gets hatin'

    What you hatin' fo?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:49 pm

    borocooper wrote:Probably knowing your lot. Bent did all he could though, to save you..and all he gets hatin'

    What you hatin' fo?

    Cos he's a one dimensional mofo! His game is too bait, your average bre can it comin', he's too wotless to let any of the other of the man them have a share of the pie.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:50 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    The HuddFather™️ wrote:
    Do I fuck!

    The squad is talented, but piss weak mentally & physically. Horribly imbalanced & we don't have a set blueprint to play by.

    Remind me of Owen's wages?

    Owen gets over 100k a week and cost £17m, and still he is better value for money than the likes of Bentley and Pavlywhatever.

    Bentley agree.

    Pav disagree. At least he's proven to be durable.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:54 pm

    The HuddFather™️ wrote:
    borocooper wrote:Probably knowing your lot. Bent did all he could though, to save you..and all he gets hatin'

    What you hatin' fo?

    Cos he's a one dimensional mofo! His game is too bait, your average bre can it comin', he's too wotless to let any of the other of the man them have a share of the pie.

    Sad shizzle
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:01 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    The HuddFather™️ wrote:
    borocooper wrote:Probably knowing your lot. Bent did all he could though, to save you..and all he gets hatin'

    What you hatin' fo?

    Cos he's a one dimensional mofo! His game is too bait, your average bre can it comin', he's too wotless to let any of the other of the man them have a share of the pie.

    Sad shizzle

    He is indeed quite shizzle, my whizzle. ok
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    Post by Fey Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:45 pm

    Pretty big chance he will be assistant at his big love next year! No, not l'arse but a team that actually won something in europe, Feyenoord Biggrin Ale
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    Post by SuperMario Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:58 pm

    Arsenal did too, though the big one (European Cup/CL) is still missing.

    Nah, Tone was just too good a manager for Pompey. It's was a mismatch. Some of the current great managers have had their problems too. Van Gaal didn't even qualify for the World Cup with arguably one of the best squads ever; Rijkaard managed to relegate with Sparta Rotterdam (was their only relegation ever).

    For Pompey you need a Redknapp, Allerdyce or somebody like that, somebody who can get the best out of a subtop/midtable team. Tone is the ideal pick for a top club like Arsenal, Barcelona.

    Kudo's to Tone for trying with Pompey, like for Rijkaard for trying with Sparta. Great these guys did not consider them too big for the job. By doing so they learned a valuable lesson.
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    Post by DS Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:00 pm

    De Guzman wrote:Arsenal did too, though the big one (European Cup/CL) is still missing.

    Nah, Tone was just too good a manager for Pompey. It's was a mismatch. Some of the current great managers have had their problems too. Van Gaal didn't even qualify for the World Cup with arguably one of the best squads ever; Rijkaard managed to relegate with Sparta Rotterdam (was their only relegation ever).

    For Pompey you need a Redknapp, Allerdyce or somebody like that, somebody who can get the best out of a subtop/midtable team. Tone is the ideal pick for a top club like Arsenal, Barcelona.

    Kudo's to Tone for trying with Pompey, like for Rijkaard for trying with Sparta. Great these guys did not consider them too big for the job. By doing so they learned a valuable lesson.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:02 pm

    debaser wrote:Bash - agreed. Defence is iffy and they haven't got a natural partner for Crouch (although I've yet to see Gekas). And now whoever comes in is too late to bring any players.

    They probably need a strong, experienced character like Fulham got with Hodgson. I wouldn't really fancy Curbishley to pick them up. Always seemed a bit uninspiring - even though he was in charge for WHam's survival.

    what became of John Utaka? He was a revelation when he first came on the scene, cost a pretty penny too IIRC.

    I agree though, Kanu is pushing 40, Nugent is a shambles and Theofanis Gekas is someone's idea of a punchline, although apparently he scored goals in Germany.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:28 pm

    They've reportedly made an approach for Sven, i for one would be furious if they got him. They probably won't though.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/portsmouth/4582823/Portsmouth-approach-Mexico-over-Sven-Goran-Eriksson.html
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    Post by Khadrim Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:56 pm

    Portsmouth just need someone to sort out their defence. Going forward they have far more cutting edge than half the teams in the league.

    They should really aim to avoid defeat grind out a few 0-0 draws to get confidence in their defence. Adams (surprisingly for a defender) had them playing a ridiculously high backline and far to gung-ho
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Tue May 11, 2010 11:24 pm

    Tony Adams' grand plans for Azerbaijan football club

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    Tony Adams, the former England and Arsenal defender, has accepted an offer to manage a little known football club in Azerbaijan, the BBC can reveal.

    Tony Adams is not a name you would readily associate with the town of Gabala. It is not exactly world famous for its football.

    Gabala FC is sixth - out of six - in the Azeri national league in a country better known for oilfields than football pitches.

    Club bosses have been trying to keep Adams' appointment a closely-guarded secret. But now the towering 6ft 3in (190cm) ex-England defender has put the town on the map.

    "I was looking for a project. I am too young to retire," he tells the BBC during an exclusive tour of the Gabala training ground - the first by journalists since his appointment.

    Young players in fluorescent bibs dart left and right during warm-ups, their occasional shouts reverberating around the ground.

    "This one was very rare. I just thought it was a magnificent project to get my teeth into. They've given me a clean plate here to build a football club and you don't get that opportunity in the UK," he says.

    Adams, 43, has just signed a three-year contract, taking the managerial reins of its club, nurturing a squad from the grass roots and overseeing a football academy.

    Supported by assistant coach, Gary Stevens, the former Spurs player who recently coached at Charlton Athletic, the two men aim to turn the ailing club into a national icon.

    The club's infrastructure is basic, consisting of one all-weather synthetic pitch and two grass pitches. But Adams is realistic.

    "First things first," he says. "Realistically to win the league in three years is achievable. It's evolution not revolution. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath-water here. I'm building a club," he said.

    The club is dominated by Azeri players at the moment, with only a couple of foreigners. According to law, at least three Azeri nationals must be on the pitch during any official match.

    With a wink, he tells me of his idea to help a Georgian player change his nationality to get him into the squad.

    There is no doubt that he is relishing the challenge. Adams seems confident and comfortable in his new role, standing on the sidelines during a training session on a warm, humid afternoon, joking with some of the players.

    "I want this to be the 'Tony Adams club'.

    "I've been to Europe. I've coached in Holland. This is different. This club doesn't have history. We hopefully will be able to build the history here."

    Adams is not the first big name to be lured to a footballing backwater by a club aiming for great things in an oil-rich state.

    Last year the World Cup-winning coach Luiz Felipe Scolari took charge of Uzbekistan's top team.

    Adams is currently staying in a luxury five-star hotel, but has been provided with a modern holiday home in the resort and an apartment in Baku. He says he will soon be joined by his wife and youngest children.

    Other contract specifics are sketchy.

    In a country criticised by the West for high-level corruption, financial details are often kept behind tightly-sealed doors.

    Adams' salary has not been disclosed (though we are told it is around the level of a "normal premiership manager"), and the club is owned by a large holding company called Gilan, about which few details are known.

    The club president is Tale Heydarov, the son of the influential emergencies minister, Kamaladdin Heydarov.

    The family is rumoured to have close ties to the Azeri President, Ilham Aliyev.

    And it has been claimed that Gilan is owned by Mr Heydarov senior - though this is denied by those close to him.

    It is unclear how much Tale Heydarov has personally invested in the club. At the last minute, he declines to give an interview.

    However, in March this year, he told me from his mansion in Baku that "the wealth of Azerbaijan has helped football, because it means there are sufficient funds to at least financially support it in Azerbaijan".

    "The federation in Azerbaijan is supported by [the state oil company] Socar. In that sense it has helped to build the necessary infrastructure and to create more incentives for young [Azeris]," he adds.

    Poorer Azeris complain that the state is frittering oil money away, and using it to line the pockets of a closely guarded elite.

    This has done little to dissuade the club's chief executive, Alastair Saverimutto, also an Englishman.

    "Those sorts of words do appear from time to time. But… you choose to do what you choose to do. I'm running a football club based on reality. Often that reality does overlap with corruption, but nothing to do with Gabala FC."

    Mr Saverimutto says a $75m (£50m) stadium complex will be built by the end of August 2011, though again, final details of the costs are under wraps.

    "All I can do is make guarantees that money is not a problem," he says, smiling.

    The local town centre contains a few basic shops, fruit stalls and traditional tea rooms - mainly full of middle-aged men.

    "I know Tony Adams. He's English," says one local bus driver. "It's good for our town that he's here. Soon everyone will know. It will bring tourists here."

    It is unclear how much the revamped, multi-million dollar club will change their lives.

    Either way, no one here disputes that the club has a long way to go to achieve success. And Adams must overcome his critics. He has limited managerial experience.

    "I've not yet got going. I was with [Inter Milan manager Jose] Mourinho in Milan before Christmas. He said you've got to forget all your playing stuff and concentrate on your coaching. He said 'it's a completely different job'."

    But Adams says he is in for the long haul.

    "I think I'm going to do five, 10 [years] here," he says.

    But the remote location of Gabala is a reminder of how much Adams has distanced himself from the English Premiership, where he used to manage Portsmouth FC.

    He has not only done so in football terms. He is also a long way from home.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8675874.stm
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed May 12, 2010 10:50 am

    A number of Arsenal fans had an expectation that he would eventually take charge of Arsenal, the likelyhood of this happening has all but faded. These are the sort of moves you make at the end of your time in the game, not when you are still a young manager.

    His CV doesn't look great, relegated a League Two club and was manager when it started to go belly up at Portsmouth, he should have gone to a smaller European nation to build up a steady reputation.
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    Post by Romford Pele Wed May 12, 2010 10:52 am

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    Post by A & K Sun May 16, 2010 2:14 am

    Cesc Soler wrote:A number of Arsenal fans had an expectation that he would eventually take charge of Arsenal, the likelyhood of this happening has all but faded. These are the sort of moves you make at the end of your time in the game, not when you are still a young manager.

    His CV doesn't look great, relegated a League Two club and was manager when it started to go belly up at Portsmouth, he should have gone to a smaller European nation to build up a steady reputation.

    That's what he did with Gabala. W.T.F seriously, should have tried a second division team instead.

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