Jol, VDV, HSV, the English, Poldi+Pato

latest horror news

Jol seems to be tempted to get VDV back to HSV

Hamburg is doing BRILLIANTLY WITHOUT the overhyped fatso who cannot cut it in Madrid, and now Jol seems to be willing to spend a lion-share of the de Jong income on the Holländer

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_68917.html

meanwhile, Jol says in Welt am Sonntag

"most people outside Germany do not realise HOW BIG HSV really is.

in England, for instance, only VERY FEW EPL clubs are as big as Hamburg"



VERY FEW would probably mean TWO or THREE in German

@Englanders

could you please help us NON-ENGLISH-NATIVE-SPEAKERS and explain what "VERY FEW" means ?

thanks

in the German translation this would mean Arsenal are a LESSER and Chelsea a similarly big club, I suppose

as for Poldi

before the Berlin game, Klinsi already said that IF everybody was fit, Poldi would NOT be a member of the squad

now Klinsi admits that Toni had a niggling Achillis or Tendon problem for about a week, yet Poldi still did not make the sqaud

the fact that Donavan only returned from his USA-Mexico game on Friday (jet-legged), was of little interest to Klinsi as well

he just threw Poldi OUT , the Pole had to watch the Berlin match in front of his TV in Munich

Poldi now says that he has been FULLY FIT FOR SOME TIME

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_68817.html#comments

which again, begs the question, why he was NOT PART of the Germany SQUAD against Norway

allez, metze, chrissi and anglo might want to apologise for finding complaints about Poldi's ommission SILLY

when clearly they WERE NOT

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the Berlin boss, Dieter Hoeness says, that the club now has some financial "wiggle room"

ie: about 8 million Euro to spend next summer

welcome to Bundesliga poverty

he also says that ONE SEASON BEFORE Pato went to Milan for over 20 million, he was offered to Berlin for 3.5 millin Euro, but they did not have the money at the time

How is that conveyor belt coming along Otto ?

Manager flatters the club he works for shock horror.

COTR wrote:How is that conveyor belt coming along Otto ?

FAR TOO FAST for Klinsi

he could not keep up with the pace and sold the whole lot of them

Hoffenheim just approched Bayern in the winterbreak to buy their LATEST STRIKER SENSATION

cannot remember, the chap is either called Wagner or Müller

anyway, Klinsi said "NO, we will not let him PLAY in Hoffenheim and WIN THE HEARTS OF THE FOOTBALL WORLD, when he is perfectly capable of sitting on a Bavarian bench"

meanwhile, Toni Kroos, U-17 World Cup BEST OFFICAL PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT is now loaned out to Bayer

yet I still predict that his younger BRO, FELIX, will become bigger faster

in fact, Felix, will even surpass McIlleroy

think about it

Kimbo wrote:Manager flatters the club he works for shock horror.

HSV are FAR BIGGER than Arsenal or Chelsea

I am DEAD-serious

so is Jol

and so are the fans





ie

the Emirates Stadium may be DEAD like a cemetary

but

HSV

have THEIR OWN OFFICIAL CLUB CEMETARY

think about it

Good to see you haven't changed during your hiatus Otto

Who cares how "big" they are? They still play in a mickey mouse league.

I must say

Liverpool and Chelsea are VERY lucky that they did NOT get Klinsi

otherwise Jol would have said : "only ManU are BIGGER than HSV these days"



meanwhile, Sportbild, whose chief Bayern Munich reporter is no longer allowed to attend club press conferences, are "correctly" turning on Klinsi for throwing out Poldi



http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2009/02/15/11693200000.html

in the next few weeks, the Klinsi-Hoeness relationship will be tested to breaking point

Klinsi is clearly IN LOVE with Donavan

and wants to buy him in MARCH

the problem is

Donovan costs 8 million Euro, which is only slightly less than what Bayern paid for Poldi, and considerably more than what they paid for Olic (NOTHING)

word has it, Hoeness is NOT keen to buy the American

Klinsi will lose this battle and the relationship to Hoeness will become strained

then

Klinsi has to PARDON Poldi

and when the lad scores his first goals, Klinsi will look like a HUGE fool for having benched the lad



Germany will regain its lost strength and dominate the world once more



just like in FEMALE SKIING right now

Chairmans

I remember a guy called But who played for Dortmund in the 90's, he was supposed to be a big deal. Whatever happened to him?

Hou je bek Rai wrote:

Chairmans

I remember a guy called But who played for Dortmund in the 90's, he was supposed to be a big deal. Whatever happened to him?

and I remember a guy called DIRKULES

who is going from strength to strength and will now play in the ALL-STAR-GAME



But: was he not a lazy Russian who always went partying ??

clearly a product of the "rusty conveyor belt of Russian talents"

44' Hamburger SV 1 - 0 Arminia Bielefeld

if HSV win, they will be ahead of Bayern in the table , I think

Bayern would then be FOURTH

Hoeness is not worried though

and tells us that the majority of the remaining Bayern games will be at home, where they are stronger

Germany

Best league since WW2

HSV win 2:0 and are now THIRD in the Bundesliga

Jol

ie

the club is MORE successful WITHOUT VDV (who left last summer) and without de Jong (who left this winter) than with the two Dutch internationals

AND

plays more attractively as well

but Jol YEARNS for a VDV return and says that if the Ajax lad had stayed at HSV he could have become an ALL-TIME-HSV-LEGEND like Seeler or Keegan

http://www.welt.de/sport/fussball/article3202087/Martin-Jol-traeumt-von-der-Rueckkehr-van-der-Vaarts.html

well

you can feel sorry for Jol and HSV fans though

Olic will leave next summer as well and they are ENDLESSLY rebuilding their club

so far though

Jol = LEGEND

would be great , if van Bommel joined them at the end of the season

Well fatty cant hack it at the absolute top.

I said that before, but he had to realise it himself. He always dreamed about spain and he had Schmerzen if he played for hsv any longer...

But it's obvious its not about vdv..its silvie who's the boss, and in Madrid there are so much more sluts like her..she is not unique there..in Hamburg on the other hand!!

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
Jol

Jol = LEGEND

Wise words Otto!

Ricardo Jol wrote:

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
Jol

Jol = LEGEND

Wise words Otto!

@ric

Jol is restoring my faith in Dutch managers

meanwhile, van Bommel is involved in a "Schnürsenkelaffäre"

http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/2009/0216/sport/0018/index.html



the Berliner Zeitung is spot on here

""Die Berliner werden selbstbewusster, die Münchner suchen nach Ausreden.

Sie haben sie sogar schon gefunden. Wer oder was war schuld an der zweiten Auswärtsniederlage der Bayern hintereinander? Das unerklärliche Risiko in der Verteidigung? Die Ideenlosigkeit im Aufbau? Die Chancenauswertung? Der Irrglaube des Trainers, elf Einzelkönner im Adrenalin-Rausch ersetzten eine übergeordnete Spielidee? Weit gefehlt. Es war der Evergreen des sportlichen Ausreden-Repertoires: der Rasen. "Was die Berliner heute als Platz angeboten haben, war kriminell", hatte Bayerns Manager Uli Hoeneß exklusiv beobachtet.



Hoeness now declares that Poldi will be back in the squad for the next game

RUMMS

and you wonder, whether Klinsi had other plans originally, considering Poldi's ommission had nothing to do with fitness levels as we now know after the Berlin game

is Klinsi still in charge at Bayern ?

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a good overview of the Bayern problems from sport1.de

the knives are coming out

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_68945.html

HSV is indeed a very big club. And its true Arsenal and Chelsea have been made bigger the last 10 years then they really are.

HSV actually have a CL

They should stop being such a selling club though. The potential is there to become a huge again, big/rich city, huge fanbase, big stadium, good coach.

The only thing they need now is good players

who are the players they should get and keep then ?

van Buyten, Boulahrouz and VDV threw such a hissy fit that the club effectively HAD to let them go

maybe HSV should be more like Leverkusen

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@fey

I think you will enjoy this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAdyJe13Hmc&NR=1

"der hat NEGER gesagt"

You are deluded if you say anyone should look more like Leverkussen! HSV is a club, leverkussen a verein!

Its a fun video Otto..almost as funny as a German trying to have sex with a locomotive!!

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/280891/be137a47/sex_fur_dem_buch_deutschland_stylie.html

I'd say that 'very few' in English is probably 6-7.

never was so much owed by so many to so few

72-76-80-96-08 wrote:Olic will leave next summer as well and they are ENDLESSLY rebuilding their club

Olic is ridiculously overhyped. If Guerrero can preserve his current form, Olic will warm the bench, since Petric is better anyway.

Mark my words.


An yeah, and as for van der Vaart: Mathijsen stated yesterday that he doesn't think that van der Vaart will return to Hamburg that soon. And he should know, they're close friends.

This is not happening.

Tweedle wrote:I'd say that 'very few' in English is probably 6-7.

since when is 30% the equivalent of "very few"?




the truth is there are only TWO big clubs in the EPL

Liverpool and ManU

Newcastle have the POTENTIAL to BECOME a big club

in the BUndesliga you have

1. Bayern Munich

2. HSV

3. Dortmund

4. Schalke

5. Borrusia Mönchengladbach

the equivalent of Newcastle would be Cologne

ie

5 to 2 for the Bundesliga

that's what Jol meant, I guess

interestingly, the finest Dutch managers have always been keen to work at these top five German clubs (even if Bayern were never interested)

think about it

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meanwhile, Klinsi experiences a HUGE setback

his campaign to install Donovan as "the number 3 striker" has just been blown to pieces

first, by Hoeness, who just DECLARED that Poldi would be back in the SQUAD (note that Klinsi , only a few days back, said that with everybody being fit, Poldi would NOT make the squad)

now

Dummenigge "wishes" that Poldi would get back pronto

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_bundesliga/artikel_69552.html

saying, "Poldi is a German international and we have responsibilites towards him"

just imagine Klinsi choking on his bio-Müsli with Californian hazelnuts when he read that over breakfast

Dummenigge then effectively cuts off Klinsi's balls completely by saying that Donovan was NOT a real candidate to join Bayern in March , they already had Klose, Toni, Olic and the fourth position would go to a talent with potential; the same day Bayern announce that U-20 international Müller, a product of the endless Bayern conveyor belt of talents , has signed a pro-contract

Klinsi's campaign to lobby for Donovan and favour him over Poldi is now effectively dead

indicating that the top brass are taking control to salvage this season

meanwhile, Hoeness is impressed at what Favre does in Berlin, saying that with the players at their disposal they "should not really be able to punch at the top"

BUT THEY ARE

my prediction now is

IF Bayern do not win the BUndesliga this season, whilst NOT reaching the CL semis either, Klinsi is OUT

you heard it here first

* and the fourth position would go to a [German] talent [signed from a Bundesliga rival] with potential [which will be wasted by turning him into a benchwarmer]

Bayern gave pro-contracts to TWO kids from their own youth

chances are we will never hear anything about them again

those two + Baumjohann are the latest talents to die an early death on the Bayern bench



they are currently destroying Rensing as well

you just CANNOT put a kid with ZERO match experience in charge of "Kahn's goal"



Rensing will break under this pressure and leave Bayern at the end of the season

admittedly, he was REALLY stupid; the lad could easily have left Bayern to play for a lesser club

Sepp Maier now had a go at Klinsi's goalie manager , Junghans, saying the training regime was FAR TOO SOFT and ALL WRONG

Maier is strongly defending Rensing and threatens to throw a major league hissy-fit , if Bayern kick out the kid

Baustellen überall an der Säbener Strasse

Well Kroos made his debut for Bayer (without the n)in a friendly . Think Bayern should be the last club talented German youngsters should go to. Would make sense if their agents advise them the same. It's a ridiculous short term gain option (bonusses, higher salary, more prestige), but in the long run it's very bad for their carreers.

They don't just ruin German talent, but any talent really. Breno deserves to play at least some more games.

Difficult to know where to start with all this bizarrely HSV-obsessed twaddle

but suffice it to say, the Poldi debate was never about Bayern – we all know he has been horrendously treated there – but whether he was being treated with disrespect by the national manager. and he wasn't

and if you think Chelsea is a bigger club than Arsenal (I won't mention HSV) you know nothing about anything

Allez les rouges wrote:

and if you think Chelsea is a bigger club than Arsenal you know nothing about anything

I never said that

Chelsea is a NOTHING club: totally artificial

a bit like Wolfsburg

Arsenal is certainly nowhere near HSV as a club, even if they have more money and more famous players

I stand by it

there are TWO BIG CLUBS in England

Liverpool and ManU

followed by semi-big clubs like Newcastle and , maybe, ManCity, that is quickly becoming a plastic club though