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    Post by TITO Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:17 pm

    I liked what i read, so just decided to post it.

    Germany sealed their third World Cup win when gaining revenge over Argentina for the loss they suffered in the 1986 final. Franz Beckenbauer saw his side cruise through the group stage before overcoming Holland, Czechoslovakia and England on the way to the final in Rome.

    Goalkeeper:

    (1) Bodo Illgner

    Keeper Illgner was at 1.FC Koeln during the 1990 finals and stayed there until 1996 when he joined Real Madrid. He was a key figure in the semi-final penalty shoot-out win over England, as Stuart Pearce will testify.

    At Real, he had to fight Santiago Canizares for the first-team jersey, and kept goal for Los Blancos’ Champions League final win over Juventus in 1998. In 1999, however, he lost his place to youngster Iker Casillas and retired in 2000.

    Yet he remained in Spain living in Alicante with his wife Bianca and his three children. He was co-commentator for Premiere at various times. In 2007 he decided to emigrate to Miami.

    Defenders:

    (2) Andreas Brehme

    It was Brehme’s 85th minute penalty that won the World Cup for Germany against the negative Argentines. Following the triumph in Rome, he spent two further seasons with Inter Milan before moving to Spain with Real Zaragoza for a season. He returned to Germany and made 120 appearances for Kaiserslautern, helping the Red Devils win the Bundesliga in 1998.

    Brehme entered coaching after his retirement but without great success. At Kaiserslautern he was fired after two years, and the same thing happened at second division Unterhaching. He became Giovanni Trapattoni’s assistant at Stuttgart, but again was dismissed along with the Italian in 2006.

    He is currently an ambassador for the German FA and is involved in an initiative to provide mini football pitches for children in Germany.

    (3) Juergen Koehler

    Following the World Cup success, centre-back Koehler was snapped up by Juventus in 1991 and he went on to win Serie A (1995) and the UEFA Cup (1993). He returned to the Bundesliga in 1995 with Borussia Dortmund with whom he won the league title twice and the Champions League in 1997. He was also part of the German side that won the European Championships in 1996.

    He retired in 2002 and succeeded Johannes Loehr as German U-21 trainer and a year later he became sporting director at Bayer Leverkusen. At the start of 2006 he spent four months as trainer of MSV Duisburg before being sacked. In August 2008 he became the trainer of third division VfR Aalen, but lasted just 80 days as doctors told him to quit on health grounds. He is now the club’s sporting director.

    (4) Klaus Augenthaler

    The World Cup sweeper retired in 1991 and took up the position of youth team trainer at Bayern Munich. Between 1992 and 1997 he was the co-trainer for the Bavarian giants. His first trainer post came with Grazer AK in 1997, but he returned to Germany in 2000 to take the reins at Nuernberg, whom he led into the Bundesliga. However, with the club in danger of being relegated in 2003 he was let go.

    Bayer Leverkusen took him on and he led them to Champions league qualification with a third place finish in 2004. He was fired in 2005, and after a break became Wolfsburg trainer only to lose his job in 2007 when he agreed to terminate his contract. He now works for the radio channel Bayern 1 as a presenter.

    (5) Guido Buchwald

    Buchwald left Stuttgart in 1994 to try his luck in Japan with the fledgling J-League and Urawa Red Diamonds before returning to Germany and playing 40 games for Karlsruhe. On retiring in 1999 he became sporting director first at Karlsruhe then at Stuttgarter Kickers.

    In 2004 he returned to Japan to take up the trainer’s position at Urawa. After finishing as runners-up twice, he led the Asian side to a long-awaited league and Cup double in 2006. He duly left his position and took up the post of trainer with German second division side Alemannia Aachen.

    Less than six months later though and he was fired due to poor results. He was strongly linked with becoming the national team trainer of Ghana last year before the Africans handed the job to Serbian Milovan Rajevac instead.

    (6) Thomas Berthold

    Full-back Berthold was playing for Roma when Germany triumphed in his ‘home’ stadium in 1990. He also played in the 1986 World Cup final when Germany lost to Argentina in Mexico. He joined Bayern Munich in 1991 and then moved onto Stuttgart in 1993.

    After hanging up his boots he had a time as manager of Fortuna Duesseldorf. Nowadays he can be found playing on the ex-pros circuit for the ‘Swabia All-Stars’ along with Karl-Heinz Foerster and Guido Buchwald, as well as writing a column for Kicker. He is also involved in charitable work for South American street children.

    Midfielders:

    (7) Thomas Haessler

    Following the World Cup, Haessler was signed by Juventus for a fee of DM 15 million, but lasted just one season before Roma signed him for DM 14 million. After 88 games for the Giallorossi he returned to Germany with Karlsruhe. He retired in 2004 after additional spells at Borussia Dortmund, 1860 Munich and Austria Salzburg.

    Since October 2006 he has been the technical trainer at 1.FC Koeln (the club where he began his career in 1984.

    (Cool Lothar Matthaus

    The 1990 World Cup winning captain has had a far less glamorous and successful career following retirement as a player. He was yet another of the winning team to be plying his trade in Italy at the time of Germany’s triumph in Rome. He left Inter in 1992 when he returned to Bayern Munich. Eight more years and four more Bundesliga titles followed to go with the three he had won in his first spell with the Bavarians.

    He ended his playing days in America with NY/NJ Metro Stars before taking up a coaching career. The highlights however have been few and far between. Spells at Rapid Vienna, Partizan Belgrade, the Hungarian national team, Atletico Paranaense, and Red Bull Salzburg hardly set the world on fire. Matthaus is currently trainer at Israeli side Maccabi Netanya.

    (9) Pierre Littbarski

    Alongside goalkeeper Bodo Illgner ‘Litti’ was the second Koeln player to appear in Germany’s final winning team. He joined J-League side JEF United in 1993 and ended his playing career in 1997.

    Like many of the 1990 winning side Littbarski has tried his hand at coaching - mainly in Asia and has had spells at Yokohama FC, Sydney FC, Avispa Fukuoka, and Saipa Teheran in Iran. He won the league title twice while with Yokohama and added a further league triumph at Sydney. Since November 2008 he has been the coach at Liechtenstein club FC Vaduz, who actually play in the Swiss Axpo Super League.

    Forwards:

    (10) Rudi Voeller

    German legend Voeller was at Roma along with Thomas Berthold in 1990 so felt at home at the Stadio Olimpico for the final, although will be best remembered for his spat (spit?) with Frank Rijkaard.

    On leaving Roma in 1992 ‘Aunty Kaethe’ had spells at Marseille and Bayer Leverkusen where he scored a further 50 goals in the twilight of his career. He also won the European Cup while at Marseille. After retiring in 1996 Voeller was the DFB’s choice to succeed Erik Ribbeck as German national team trainer in 2000. It was meant to be an interim appointment until Christophe Daum could take over, but Daum’s subsequent drug use ruled him out and Voeller stayed on.

    He took Germany to the World Cup finals in Japan/Korea and went as far as the final only to fall to Brazil. He resigned in 2004 following a poor showing at Euro 2004 and had a strange month in charge at Roma. Since January 2005 he has been the sporting director at Bayer Leverkusen.

    (11) Juergen Klinsmann

    Yet another Serie A player at the time of the World Cup triumph. Klinsmann was with Andy Brehme and Lothar Matthaus at Inter in 1990 but left the Nerazzurri in 1992 for Monaco. From there he joined Tottenham before playing for Bayern Munich, Sampdoria and finally Orange County Blue Star under the pseudonym of Jay Goppingen.

    Following Rudi Voeller’s resignation in 2004 the DFB considered many candidates to take them to the World Cup on home soil in 2006, before ultimately choosing Klinsmann. His modern methods and philosophy very nearly paid dividends but Germany narrowly failed to achieve glory.

    He is now Bayern Munich trainer, where he is looking to restore the Bavarians to the top in Europe as well as maintaining their dominance in the Bundesliga.

    Substitutes:

    (12) Stefan Reuter

    Reuter, then at Bayern Munich, was the only German sub sent on in the final. He had just won the Bundesliga twice in succession with the Bavarians and joined Juventus after the World Cup, but returned to Borussia Dortmund after just one season.

    He won the Bundesliga three times there as well as the Champions League in 1997. He won the 1996 European Championships with Germany to go with his World Cup medal before retiring in 2004.

    After ending his playing days he took up a position in the Dortmund administration before joining 1860 Munich as business manager. However he recently quit the club following the appointment of Miroslav Stevic as sporting director.

    Coach:

    Franz Beckenbauer

    ‘Der Kaiser’ lifted the World Cup in 1974 as a player, and repeated the feat as manger in 1990. Following the triumph in Italy, Beckenbauer took up the post of coach at French side Marseille, whom he led to the Ligue 1 title in his only season in charge.

    After brief spells filling in as Bayern trainer, he took up office as Bayern president in 1994 where he remains to this day. In 1998 he became vice-president of the German FA and led Germany's successful bid to host the 2006 World Cup, chairing the organising committee.

    That was a game to watch. I never liked Argentina reaching the finals, especially the way they did it, with all that negative football, so i was glad when Germany scored, even with that shit of a penalty call.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:25 pm

    Lots of great players in that team. They don't make them like they used to...
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:29 pm

    most of them failed once their playing careers were over

    THE exception being Völler and Buchwald

    Lothar was never given a chance in the Bundesliga: at Bayern he fell out with Hoeness, and for the rest of the league he was too much "Mr Bayern München"

    Buchwald was a sensation in Japan ; his failure at Aachen was not really his fault

    I would like to see him manage Stuttgart , Schálke or Bremen next season, but it won't happen

    Beckenbauer went on to get us the 2006 World Cup

    biggest disappointment , arguably, is Klinsi

    what he touches turns to dust

    the public don't see it though

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    the 1996 European Cup winners will leave a FAR BIGGER LEGACY
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:36 pm

    being a German World Cup winner must be a bit like being Freddie Mercury.

    Sure you're an awesome rock star, but you're also gay and you have AIDS.
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    Post by COTR Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:38 pm

    Klinsi has been a MASSIVE success otto

    Look what he managed to do to an appalling german side. He made Germany love football again, now he has restored Bayern to a respected side in europe
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    Post by DS Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:39 pm

    Jaime wrote:Lots of great players in that team. They don't make them like they used to...
    Just look at that midfield.<Ale>
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:45 pm

    Jaime wrote:Lots of great players in that team. They don't make them like they used to...

    So true.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:51 pm

    DS wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Lots of great players in that team. They don't make them like they used to...
    Just look at that midfield.<Ale>

    Plus they don't even list Andy Moller or Olaf Thon who were both in the squad.
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    Post by DS Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:00 pm

    True that Jaime, we have not been able to produce that kind of talent for some time, the youth internationals are very promising at the moment.
    Lot of Germans were playing outside the country with top leagues and I advocate German players leaving Bundesliga when they are ready, try the stream rather be a frog in the well.

    For me Haessler was underrated by the way.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:05 pm

    Haessler was very good. Particularly I remember him from his performances in Euro 92 and with Roma.
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    Post by bluenine Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:06 pm

    I am so fond of that team... specially Brehme, Lothar, and Klinsi, some of the early memories as an Inter fan....
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    Post by Fey Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:09 pm

    What a shit team..full of c**ts as well. Only got the WC cause of the reunification.

    They dont make them these days anymore, I do agree on that!
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:19 pm

    COTR wrote:Klinsi has been a MASSIVE success otto

    Look what he managed to do to an appalling german side. He made Germany love football again, now he has restored Bayern to a respected side in europe

    Horsecrap.

    Any German national team would reach the Semi's on home soil.

    An even worse german side reached the final of Euro '08 without Klinsi.

    He completely fucked up the German mentality too - Germany would never have celebrated finishing 3rd in the good old days, the c**ts.

    Littbarski and Haessler were awesome.
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    Post by debaser Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:16 am

    Philipp Deglenn wrote:being a German World Cup winner must be a bit like being Freddie Mercury.

    Sure you're an awesome rock star, but you're also gay and you have AIDS.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:42 am

    bluenine wrote:I am so fond of that team... specially Brehme, Lothar, and Klinsi, some of the early memories as an Inter fan....

    Not as good as our Dutch players. Razz
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    Post by bluenine Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:59 am

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    bluenine wrote:I am so fond of that team... specially Brehme, Lothar, and Klinsi, some of the early memories as an Inter fan....

    Not as good as our Dutch players. Razz

    They were better Razz

    Actuallly, the diff between Inter and Milan those days was not in the foriegn players... it was in the quality of italian players.
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    Post by Antarion Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:43 am

    1990 drunken

    Sometimes you just miss the good old times
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:19 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    COTR wrote:Klinsi has been a MASSIVE success otto

    Look what he managed to do to an appalling german side. He made Germany love football again, now he has restored Bayern to a respected side in europe

    Horsecrap.

    Any German national team would reach the Semi's on home soil.

    An even worse german side reached the final of Euro '08 without Klinsi.

    He completely fucked up the German mentality too - Germany would never have celebrated finishing 3rd in the good old days, the c**ts.

    Littbarski and Haessler were awesome.

    Remarkable how similar this is to Otto (though indeed Bayern are not doing very great at all in the league considering the superiority of their squad... let's see how they fare in the CL)

    To talk about "celebrating third place" is to entirely miss the point, as Otto has done repeatedly. It was not the ultimate failure that was being celebrated but the joy of the tournament as a whole, a roaring success where at last the country felt comfortable flag-waving and partying with all the other nations too. The team wasn't quite "ripe" enough to quite do it in the end, but that doesn't take away from the WM-Feeling. Everyone who was there will understand.

    Littbarski and Häßler are indeed awesome Ale
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    Post by BrianS Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:27 pm

    I think the new generation has the potential to be as good as some of the 1990 WC winners.
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:40 pm

    for once I agree 1000% with our friend Pierre

    a semi on home soil for Germany is the same as a first round exit under Ribbeck in 2004

    and the thing is, allez, the Mannschaft COULD have been RIPE

    just like at Bayern now, Klinsi did EVERYTHING wrong

    only , nobody saw it like that because he had the desaster of 2004 under Völler as a yard-stick and could always say

    "look how limited we were, I am working with the same team, but the fact is German football is hopelessly backward in comparison to interational standards like England and the EPL"

    nobody of those German pessimists was going to contradict him on the basis of 2004

    even a few weeks ago , Klinsi said: " ich habe als Nationaltrainer einen Trümmer ( Scherben-)haufen übernommen"

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    the confusion of Klinsi's achievement or lack-thereof also stems SIGNIFICANTLY from people mixingup the great atmosphere on the streets and in the stadia and the football itself

    this was the greatest football party of all time

    after 2004 most people could live with "3rd place+entertaining football"

    criticising Klinsi and the Mannschaft for exiting in the semis would almost have felt like a betrayal under the circumstances, or at least like a bout of typical German Miesepretigkeit, totally uncalled for considering the wonderful party we had

    in other words, Klinsi got off VERY LIGHTLY and most people had too many "Glückshormone in their little German Köpfe" that they did not even notice what a total football washout we had just experienced

    my father, as always, was very wise when he said that the MOOD in Germany vis-a-vis the Mannschaft would have turned, IF Portugal had beaten us in the last game

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    as an EVENT, 2006 had indeed a MASSIVE impact on German society in a million different ways

    how we see ourselves and how others see us

    the latest BBC survey concluded that Germany is now the NUMBER ONE most populat country in the world

    unthinkable BEFORE the 2006 World Cup
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    Post by Allez les rouges Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:01 pm

    Oh Otto, just watch the 8-DVD Deutschland Edition (maybe with an eye to comparing it to last year) and reconsider whether you can really call the German performances a "washout"...

    It gets tiresome to argue on this, but anyone claiming "with a proper manager Germany would have swept Italy aside and crushed France in the final" (yes France could and would have been beaten in the final had the semi ended differently...) is living in such a bizarre, realitätsentfremdete Welt that it is futile to try and reason with them...
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    Post by abundance Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:12 pm

    Fey wrote:What a shit team..full of c**ts as well. Only got the WC cause of the reunification.
    yeah we would have RAPED them in the final if only we wouldn't have been locked out by the argies. =D

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