Spanish FA reject Aragones resignation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/5334538.stm

how imcompetant can one association be ffs, he should have gone after the WC failure, he should defo go now before its too late

Should have gone after the Henry debacle. The talent Spain have individually, he is underachieving to Svenesque proportions.

Get him out. WHo do you think should replace him Frank?

TRWP there is one outstanding candidate imho but not sure he´ll accept the job; Rafa

YOU CAN JUST F*** RIGHT OFF

Rafa would be the best. At the moment, however, all this speculation is just useless and I mean useless with a capital F.

Get the old man out!

What about calls to get Del Bosque back into management? What has happened to the bushy 'tached one?

Del Bosque i think there are a lot of doubts about him, especially as he has been away so long and his last job was a disaster

It may be a good time for Rafa to get out as well.

Luckily Rafa's not prone to kneejerk reactions - unlike yourself

Roger_Hunt wrote:Luckily Rafa's not prone to kneejerk reactions - unlike yourself

I tried to say this the other day, but it was brushed under by people who just want to see us fail...

Rafa signed a new contract back in june, well aware that after the world cup Aragones could walk away - either through success or just not doing well enough. Most international managers do after a major tournament.

Rafa knew this yet still signed a new contract.


It's just like with Alonso... he was off to Real a couple of months ago. Now he wants a new contract

could it be that they actually like it where they are?

obispo i´m not convinced he´d take it either but we all know contracts aren´t worth the paper they are written on. its great insurance against the sack/injury dependent upon player/manager

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:obispo i´m not convinced he´d take it either but we all know contracts aren´t worth the paper they are written on. its great insurance against the sack/injury dependent upon player/manager

No, I know contracts can't be taken at face value. But Rafa's a smart man and I would have thought it fairly obvious that he'd have a chance after the world cup - if he wanted it - of being Spain manager. I'm sure he did aswell.

Same thing with the Real Madrid job and I'm sure plenty of others. He's here because he wants to be. Not like Hargreaves last year where he signed a contract through lack of better offers - then Utd made their move. I'm sure Rafa had plenty of "better offers".

The big benefit of Liverpool for Rafa is that we have a strong history of backing managers, we don't chop and change. Hence why I've never taken the Real job as a threat.

Likewise I think that any national manager's job is pretty precarious.

I just hope that he doesnt feel any sense of patriotic duty if no-one else will step forward.

Roger_Hunt wrote:
Likewise I think that any national manager's job is pretty precarious.

I just hope that he doesnt feel any sense of patriotic duty if no-one else will step forward.

Can't he do both ?

He's a workaholic anyway. I don't think he has any spare time with 1 job. I would really worry for his health if he took 2.

Plus I'm sure we have it in his contract that he would need our permission - which I'm sure we wouldnt give.

Maybe as a fill-in for a couple of games it would be OK.

axe - we started on this the other day, and its not something that immediately sprang to mind but he´d have a conflict of interest with the spanish players in his club squad.

reina, LG, Alonso does he protect them for spain by not playing them for liverpool, or vice cersa and even if his reasons were sound it would always come under scrutiny. how does he make reina believe if as would be likely he doesn´t play him for spain how can he go back to liverpool and when his confidence islow and he needs a pick up tell him he´s the best, etc. etc. i just don´t see it working

I think Aragones will end up leaving anyway. They just want 48 hours to talk it over with him, as stupid as that sounds. Either way, knowing those morons, they will probably hire another useless idiot like that sweaty fat bastard Camacho.

Why on earth why they would reject it, are they stupid

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:axe - we started on this the other day, and its not something that immediately sprang to mind but he´d have a conflict of interest with the spanish players in his club squad.

reina, LG, Alonso does he protect them for spain by not playing them for liverpool, or vice cersa and even if his reasons were sound it would always come under scrutiny. how does he make reina believe if as would be likely he doesn´t play him for spain how can he go back to liverpool and when his confidence islow and he needs a pick up tell him he´s the best, etc. etc. i just don´t see it working

Hiddink did it for Australia and PSV (and both prospered by it)...he seems to be able to make it work => fetching Archie Thompson to PSV, but not using him for Australia.

Being able to woo Jason Culina to come to PSV, making him a better player for club and country at the same time.

I know Liverpool > PSV and Spain > Australia, but an excellent man-manager (and with your current squad, that's what Rafa needs to be anyway) should be able to pull it off...

lol the spanish fa rejected his resignation, i guess the fa dont want us to play the euro then.

Im pretty sure VDB will get the job if Aragones does finally fuckoff.

i know we discussed this the other day and couldn´t really come up with any credible realistic other options but VDB, is he not too madridista to hold all the factions together

VDB Spain manager = Guti playing for Spain lol

Lotina is mentioned in Sport, for whatever that's worth...

toon h wrote:Lotina is mentioned in Sport, for whatever that's worth...

Yeah Marca says the same thing, apparently they already had contacts with him so ...