Man Utd vs Barcelona, Champions League Final 08/09

Inieto'o wrote:

Stimulus Package wrote:

Puro wrote:Reading The Guardian a bit, and some poster wrote "it's too bad the red nose couldn't bring Howard Webb in the second half".

You really should get your story straight - one moment it's Man U getting decisions every time they struggle, even in the CL, the next it's laughing at them because someone pointed out that they couldn't bring on a referee...

I'm gonna actually agree with Puro here, in the sense that say that unless you're Michel Platini (lover of beautiful footy), UEFA didn't care about the outcome of this result - all that mattered was that both teams got to the final, so that they could stage the money-spinning Ronaldo vs. Messi showdown.

Is this an irony? It should be. If not -

TheCrazy58 wrote:I agree that the inconsistencies of the other top four clubs rather flattered United's domestic standing and their record vs other top 4 clubs wasn't the greatest - the 1 -4 mauling by Liverpool and us beating them 2 -1 at the Emirates being prime examples. So is it just that they were flat field bullies who were found out big time in a big match?

Man Utd achieved the 2nd highest points total ever in the premiership i believe...so i don't think inconsistencies flattered Man Utd at all....

And i think the semi finals against arsenal somehow contradict the rest of what you're saying. i am honestly baffled you even posted this crazy post.

I'm not talking about Utd getting points which I know they did but about others dropping them - Liverpool, us and and to a lesser extent Chelsea all dropped points against lower ranking opposition. Your point about beating Arsenal is out of scope for the point I was trying to raise - it's the PL form I was talking about not CL.

L-r d wrote:
It's the game to truely crowd the EPL but especially Man Utd/Fergie greatness Puro. I hope you're ready for a humbling. If Man Utd score first we could see a 3-0 which surely would put everything to bed But a 3-2 would be a lot better overall for everybody.

First of all, my respect to your Mancs for not playing pussy football against Barça like some clubs.

Ain't that right Chelsea fans!

Now let's discuss Fergie's "greatness" LRD homeboy. The man is a winner through and through. Although he's had his share of ref's bailouts through the years, it is to his credit (whatever he's done) he's won so many EPL titles.

HOWEVER! his record in Europe is not that impressive to me. Bayern Munich completely outplayed his team in 1999, but the Mancs miraculously scored TWO GOALS from mad scrambles in injury time. Bayern completely dominated that game hitting the post FOUR TIMES. That match under the same circumstances, and it's Bayern's trophy 99 out of 100 times. Your Mancs got their one that night. Miracles do happen indeed!

Last season them Blues had the Mancs dead in the second half. I can't understand how Chelsea couldn't finish the game against your Mancs. Then in the PK's John FUCKING Terry delivers the ULTIMATE CHOKE with only van der Saar to beat from the spot. I don't know it was another miracle, but some type of divine intervention perhaps. The 'gods' probably decided to "HELL WITH THEM BLUES, FUCK THEM, FUCK YOU TERRY! I mean it was odd the way things unfolded for Chelsea in the PK's

Then yesterday, no miracles, no divine nothing to bail Fergie out. He's never won shite in Europe, at least nothing convincingly. Don't get excited now homeboy LRD, that's just my opinion. Fergie's STILL a winner, but he got his ass whopped by a "novice" manager in Pep Guardiola yesterday. That's just the latest reason why I never rated Fergie with the top managers such as Hiddink, Lippi, Capello, Benítez, Mourinho, and Pep Guardiola - like I said weeks ago- PEP ALREADY BELONGS WITH THE ELITE MANAGERS.

Respect to the Mancs! AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T PLAY PUSSY FOOTBALL AGAINST BARCELONA!

I feel Fergie was putting all his eggs in one basket setting up his whole team too showcase Ronaldo and it blew up. The way Man U dominated the first ten minutes then went behind something was not right with the hole team they all dropped their heads and looked beaten so early. Team tactics had to of played a major part whatever they had planned the team had zero fighting sprit. They always new they could not match Barca in the middle.
Ronadlo should of played on the wing not as striker. Anderson should of stayed on instead of Giggs.

Barcelona won the game with ease to me it looked like the Euro 2008 final Spain v Germany at least Germany kept fighting.

For all the Pep praise, I think it's worth mentioning that IMO he wouldn't have got anywhere near this kind of instant success if he was at a club other than Barça.

Puro wrote:
Now let's discuss Fergie's "greatness" LRD homeboy. The man is a winner through and through. Although he's had his share of ref's bailouts through the years, it is to his credit (whatever he's done) he's won so many EPL titles.

HOWEVER! his record in Europe is not that impressive to me. Bayern Munich completely outplayed his team in 1999, but the Mancs miraculously scored TWO GOALS from mad scrambles in injury time. Bayern completely dominated that game hitting the post FOUR TIMES. That match under the same circumstances, and it's Bayern's trophy 99 out of 100 times. Your Mancs got their one that night. Miracles do happen indeed!

Not really made scrambles - the second one was direct from the corner, flicked on, volleyed in by the Norwegian, hardly a scrappy goal at all. The first one was a bit scrappy I suppose, and yes, Bayern were the better team on the night.

Nonetheless, after the equaliser they gave up, and Man U kept going. That's what makes Fergie 'great', if anything - the capacity to intill a winning mentality.

Last season them Blues had the Mancs dead in the second half. I can't understand how Chelsea couldn't finish the game against your Mancs. Then in the PK's John FUCKING Terry delivers the ULTIMATE CHOKE with only van der Saar to beat from the spot. I don't know it was another miracle, but some type of divine intervention perhaps. The 'gods' probably decided to "HELL WITH THEM BLUES, FUCK THEM, FUCK YOU TERRY! I mean it was odd the way things unfolded for Chelsea in the PK's

Ronaldo also missed a penalty that would, had Terry scored, have been the 'miracle' that let Chelsea win the trophy.

Then yesterday, no miracles, no divine nothing to bail Fergie out. He's never won shite in Europe, at least nothing convincingly. Don't get excited now homeboy LRD, that's just my opinion. Fergie's STILL a winner, but he got his ass whopped by a "novice" manager in Pep Guardiola yesterday. That's just the latest reason why I never rated Fergie with the top managers such as Hiddink, Lippi, Capello, Benítez, Mourinho, and Pep Guardiola - like I said weeks ago- PEP ALREADY BELONGS WITH THE ELITE MANAGERS.

This is ridiculous - you put Capello in the elite bracket but not Fergie, and put Mourinho there on the grounds he didn't need luck to win anything.

Except his crowning accomplishment, the CL win, came off the back of a Paul Scholes goal being wrongly disallowed for offside, and a goalie error in the final minutes gifting a goal to Porto.

So that's simply untrue. Try again my Peruvian genius.

Respect to the Mancs! AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T PLAY PUSSY FOOTBALL AGAINST BARCELONA!

Respect to you for acknowledging this.

Already being discussed over at Barcelona's thread. Pep cut the pre match warmup short, brought his players in to show them this clip. No wonder Puyol was so fired up.

http://www.elcomercio.com.pe/noticia/293209/gladiador-inspiro-victoria-barcelona

That's not the official version, apparently. The full 7 minute video will be shown on TV3 on Monday. Can't wait

Here's the official video: