England vs. Andorra - 10/06/2009

Full England squad:

Goalkeepers
Scott Carson (West Bromwich Albion)
Robert Green (West Ham United)
Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders
Wayne Bridge (Manchester City)
Ashley Cole (Chelsea)
Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United)
Glen Johnson (Portsmouth)
Joleon Lescott (Everton)
Gary Neville (Manchester United)
John Terry (Chelsea)
Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfield
Gareth Barry (Aston Villa)
David Beckham (AC Milan loan from LA Galaxy)
Michael Carrick (Manchester United)
Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City)
Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

Strikers
Carlton Cole (West Ham United)
Peter Crouch (Portsmouth)
Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur)
Emile Heskey (Aston Villa)
Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)

I can't believe there is no other rightback other than Gary Neville in England.

Glenn Johnson?

Crazy Neville got a call up though, maybe Capello wants a look at him. But he's been a liability for man utd and he's clearly past it. He's behind brown, o shea and Rafael ffs.

The keepers are horrible. The rest no arguments.

Someone needs to wrap up Johnson in cotton wool. And what must Luke Young be thinking at the moment.

Kirkland not fit or something?

NO OWEN???

Not much wrong with that, Neville and Heskey are obviously emarrassing but they may not play.

I think it's time to make Green number 1 aswell.

Gary Neville is easily the most ridiculous call up ever. Got no problems with Theo and SWP being in there..no Lennon though? Injury or what?

Isnt Luke Young injured?

Khadrim wrote:Someone needs to wrap up Johnson in cotton wool. And what must Luke Young be thinking at the moment.

Kirkland not fit or something?

Does that really need answering :

Green should start IMO. Johnson has been brilliant for the vast part of the season. Finally Young About time.

Heskey, Neville, SWP and Carson

Just realised Baines isn't in the squad. Bridge hasn't been that good. Turning into a closed shop again.

Lennon is injured.

Why are people laughing at Heskey? he's been starting for England and doing great.

L-r d wrote:Why are people laughing at Heskey? he's been starting for England and doing great.

He's not a footballer, he's a fraud. Cole is more talented, and i'm sure if you ask him to he will run into people and dive just as much as Heskey does.

It's not the point though is it. He starts he is very useful, he compliments the team and he has been doing very well.

L-r d wrote:It's not the point though is it. He starts he is very useful, he compliments the team and he has been doing very well.

It all depends on how you want to play, if you want to cheat and con the refs into giving you free kicks and penalties then Heskey is the way to go, if you want to play football then you look elsewhere.

I would go with:

----------------------------Green--------------------------

Johnson-------Ferdinand-------Terry-----------A.Cole

------------------Barry----------Carrick---------------

-------------------------Lampard-----------------------

------------Rooney------------------Gerrard----------

--------------------------C.Cole-------------------------

Actually fuck it, that doesn't really work.

you still have a first 11 with great names, but this system looks like utterly shit, and you dont have a clinical finisher

Ballack wrote:I would go with:

----------------------------Green--------------------------

Johnson-------Ferdinand-------Terry-----------A.Cole

------------------Barry----------Carrick---------------

-------------------------Lampard-----------------------

------------Rooney------------------Gerrard----------

--------------------------C.Cole-------------------------

Actually fuck it, that doesn't really work.

Play Rooney in left.

drop fat frank

Özil wrote:drop fat frank

the man who has consistently outshone michael 'mr.german' ballack all season? i don't think so.

Ballack wrote:I would go with:

----------------------------Green--------------------------

Johnson-------Ferdinand-------Terry-----------A.Cole

------------------Barry----------Carrick---------------

-------------------------Lampard-----------------------

------------Rooney------------------Gerrard----------

--------------------------C.Cole-------------------------

Actually fuck it, that doesn't really work.

Yeah switch Gerrard and Rooney and there you go...

Hopefully A.Young actually gets some game time too.

Gabby should be there instead of Theo in truth. Scored 1 in 3 in the league whilst Walmart scored 1 in 11 from a similar position.

Gabby has been shit for a while too, no? Didnt he get booed at some point?

borocooper wrote:Gabby has been shit for a while too, no? Didnt he get booed at some point?

For a lot of the second half of the season infact he was booed by the Villa faithful.

Ade wrote:

borocooper wrote:Gabby has been shit for a while too, no? Didnt he get booed at some point?

For a lot of the second half of the season infact he was booed by the Villa faithful.

Over-exaggerate much? Far as I saw, he was booed in one match when he was subbed.

Dragões azuis e brancos wrote:Gabby should be there instead of Theo in truth. Scored 1 in 3 in the league whilst Walmart scored 1 in 11 from a similar position.

Not sure about the similar position thing. Walcott generally plays RW when I see him, while Gabby was playing up front by himself for a fair chunk of the season, or off Carew/Heskey the rest.

Walcott hasn't done that much recently to earn a spot, but nor has Gabby.

debaser wrote:

Ade wrote:

borocooper wrote:Gabby has been shit for a while too, no? Didnt he get booed at some point?

For a lot of the second half of the season infact he was booed by the Villa faithful.

Over-exaggerate much? Far as I saw, he was booed in one match when he was subbed.

A mate who is Villa season ticket holder said that. A lot of people were highly frustrated with his and Villa's performances post-Christmas and vented a lot of that frustration at him. He was our scape goat unfortantely, was what he said.

Ade wrote:

debaser wrote:

Ade wrote:

borocooper wrote:Gabby has been shit for a while too, no? Didnt he get booed at some point?

For a lot of the second half of the season infact he was booed by the Villa faithful.

Over-exaggerate much? Far as I saw, he was booed in one match when he was subbed.

A mate who is Villa season ticket holder said that. A lot of people were highly frustrated with his and Villa's performances post-Christmas and vented a lot of that frustration at him. He was our scape goat unfortantely, was what he said.

Every club picks scapegoats when on a losing run (or even when winning - see Voronin, Dossena, Lucas, Bellamy, Keane, Babel, Kuyt and countless other Liverpool players). Every club has idiot fans who always moan at certain players.

Gabby got scapegoated a bit, so did Heskey and others. Still he wasn't noticeably booed (on a wide scale), other than one time he was subbed.

I remember hearing on the guardian podcast that the fans didnt like that Gabby was acting as if he was already a huge success, coming to training in a Ferrari and acting cocky about town and stuff. Probably has something to do with him being singled out, even if it was only a minority of people.

Apparently he drives a white Lambourghini.

So..it seems Gabby is a little bit of a knob..and didnt have a very good 2nd half to the season.

Theo had a quiet season too but isnt a knob from what ive seen.

TS decides to go with the knob.

Ts likes knob.

Thats where ive gone with that

Didn't Agbonlahor fade away due to playing in practically every game from July onwards, when Villa were in the Intertoto?

Probably..seemed like a lot of them did.