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    Post by Parks lives Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:18 am

    Its almost like getting another man to shag your wife because you can't do the job. Wink

    Anyone starting to feel sorry for him?

    Or does he deserve this for some of the unjust praise he got?
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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:19 am

    Parks Lives wrote:
    Anyone starting to feel sorry for him?

    Laugh
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:19 am

    Come on Parky, you're joking right? Wink

    Feeling sorry for Lampard is like feeling sorry for Usama's fourth plane plan being hashed!

    The guy is a complete and utter tosser and deserves everything he gets.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:27 am

    I know what your saying, I don't think as a bloke he's that bad, if not a bit arrogant and now ridiculously sensitive. He was just completely over rated as a player, something most of us realised before the mass media did.

    If he doesn't take penalties this season and they stick with two strikers, I really think he may struggle to get 10 - 12 goals.
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:30 am

    Parks Lives wrote:I know what your saying, I don't think as a bloke he's that bad, if not a bit arrogant and now ridiculously sensitive. He was just completely over rated as a player, something most of us realised before the mass media did.

    If he doesn't take penalties this season and they stick with two strikers, I really think he may struggle to get 1 - 2 goals.

    thats better Wink
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:35 am

    Lamps has fallen so quickly from grace. just over a year ago threads were being made on 606 comparing him to zidane, now even those morons are calling for him to be benched
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    Post by Saintsar Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:41 am

    Lampard has missed 4 out of his last 5 penalties, and the one he scored wasn't particularly well taken and was almost saved.

    I found Mourinho's comments that:
    "For me, Lampard is guilty. He is guilty because you never had a player like him in the last 10 years and because of that you are having a go at him.

    "He is guilty because he scored so many goals and he played so many matches and he always gives 100%, game after game, for Chelsea and England."

    thoroughly misplaced. Just about every midfielder who has played for England in recent years has given more than Lampard. Including Trevor Sinclair and Nicky Butt.

    For heaven's sake, Owen Hargreaves has offered more of a goal threat and more creativity in the last 5 or 6 England games than Lampard has. This is classic Mourinho - in trying to cover up the fact that he knows he bought Ballack to account for Lampard's deficiencies, he goes too far and it becomes an obvious attempt at skewing the truth.

    Still, Ballack's penalty was outstanding, and Lampard's celebrating with Ballack utterly contrived. All is not well in the Chelsea dressing room, that's for sure.
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    Post by bluenine Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:43 am

    It was a ridiculous overhype due to the fact that he used to score so regularily.... I must say that I found his scoring record very confusing, coz he was/is not that good player... my opinion of Lampard has not changed (even after his bad patch)... he is a decent midfielder with a good shot.

    But now that he had to compete with a world class midfielder for that spot, it is going to be a difficult season for Frank. I am surprised that Mourinho still considers him as a starter. I guess he is just waiting for Ballack to find his feet in the premiership...

    Agooner wrote:Lamps has fallen so quickly from grace. just over a year ago threads were being made on 606 comparing him to zidane, now even those morons are calling for him to be benched
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:44 am

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    I found Mourinho's comments that:
    "For me, Lampard is guilty. He is guilty because you never had a player like him in the last 10 years and because of that you are having a go at him.



    Even Lampard must be raising his eyebrows at that comment. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:52 am

    bluenine wrote:It was a ridiculous overhype due to the fact that he used to score so regularily.... I must say that I found his scoring record very confusing, coz he was/is not that good player... my opinion of Lampard has not changed (even after his bad patch)... he is a decent midfielder with a good shot.


    ok

    Its because people never took into account the position he played in (almost off the striker) and how many goals were from penalties (probably a third of them).

    Yet still raved at how many he scored for a midfielder! pfft.

    I'd say the same as you and I've always said, he's a decent player with a good shot and a good engine. However I'd question his engine at the moment.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:41 pm

    lampard looked really pissed off before and after the penatly from ballack
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    Post by Isar Truppe Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:52 pm

    When your manager comes out and says "Lampard will take the penalties, unless they are important ones" then I think that says it all really.

    Lampard had a good run, now he should maybe think about playing for Boro or maybe Wigan.
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    Post by Saintsar Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:58 pm

    They should have sold him to Barca for 40 million.

    No, wait, that story was crap and Barca are nowhere near stupid enough to pay that for him...
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    Post by Owen Thomas Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:00 pm

    Isar Truppe wrote:When your manager comes out and says "Lampard will take the penalties, unless they are important ones" then I think that says it all really.

    Lampard had a good run, now he should maybe think about playing for Boro or maybe Wigan.

    The guy probably still thinks he is good enough for Barca Isar. Laughing
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    Post by The Vermonster Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:01 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:They should have sold him to Barca for 40 million.

    No, wait, that story was crap and Barca are nowhere near stupid enough to pay that for him...

    oh right. Deco plus 20 million for Lampard. Even the guys responsible for transfers at NUFC wont enter into such deals. lol!
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    Post by Machiavel Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:03 pm

    From UEFA.Com: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=456135.html

    Michael Ballack insisted he is not desperate to take penalty-taking responsibility away from Frank Lampard after his first goal for Chelsea FC enabled his new team to get off to another winning start in the UEFA Champions League.

    With such a reknowned set-piece exponent as Ballack now alongside him in the London side's midfield it is clear the England player will come under more pressure to improve on a poor recent strike rate of three missed penalties in four attempts. "We spoke together in the dressing-room and Frank said it was OK if I wanted to take a penalty," Ballack said. "But I am not a player who wants to take every free-kick or penalty, Frank is a top player here and he was successful the last few seasons."
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    Post by robert Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:03 pm

    Unfortunately playing alongside a player who will not pick up his slack of work is making Lampard camp less just outside the penalty box. I bet he is praying for Ballack to get injured so that he can have Essien and Makelele do his work for himand he can revert back to being a psuedo striker.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:31 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    Still, Ballack's penalty was outstanding, and Lampard's celebrating with Ballack utterly contrived. All is not well in the Chelsea dressing room, that's for sure.

    Well spotted. I thought the celebration to look rather posed as well. Ballack looked like he was almost annoyed by Lampard hugging him. And the way Ballack celebrated the penalty, he usually never celebrates a penalty like that, and the way he actually took the penalty (one of the best I have seen so far), he definitely wanted to set a sign.
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    Post by Tom Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:59 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:Lampard has missed 4 out of his last 5 penalties, and the one he scored wasn't particularly well taken and was almost saved.

    I found Mourinho's comments that:
    "For me, Lampard is guilty. He is guilty because you never had a player like him in the last 10 years and because of that you are having a go at him.

    "He is guilty because he scored so many goals and he played so many matches and he always gives 100%, game after game, for Chelsea and England."

    thoroughly misplaced. Just about every midfielder who has played for England in recent years has given more than Lampard. Including Trevor Sinclair and Nicky Butt.

    For heaven's sake, Owen Hargreaves has offered more of a goal threat and more creativity in the last 5 or 6 England games than Lampard has. This is classic Mourinho - in trying to cover up the fact that he knows he bought Ballack to account for Lampard's deficiencies, he goes too far and it becomes an obvious attempt at skewing the truth.

    Still, Ballack's penalty was outstanding, and Lampard's celebrating with Ballack utterly contrived. All is not well in the Chelsea dressing room, that's for sure.
    Laugh bollcoks. Missed= Charlton, Portugal, Hungary. He didnt miss a single pen in the prem last year. And same for the year before that.
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:24 pm

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    saintgoingmarching wrote:Lampard has missed 4 out of his last 5 penalties, and the one he scored wasn't particularly well taken and was almost saved.

    I found Mourinho's comments that:
    "For me, Lampard is guilty. He is guilty because you never had a player like him in the last 10 years and because of that you are having a go at him.

    "He is guilty because he scored so many goals and he played so many matches and he always gives 100%, game after game, for Chelsea and England."

    thoroughly misplaced. Just about every midfielder who has played for England in recent years has given more than Lampard. Including Trevor Sinclair and Nicky Butt.

    For heaven's sake, Owen Hargreaves has offered more of a goal threat and more creativity in the last 5 or 6 England games than Lampard has. This is classic Mourinho - in trying to cover up the fact that he knows he bought Ballack to account for Lampard's deficiencies, he goes too far and it becomes an obvious attempt at skewing the truth.

    Still, Ballack's penalty was outstanding, and Lampard's celebrating with Ballack utterly contrived. All is not well in the Chelsea dressing room, that's for sure.
    Laugh bollcoks. Missed= Charlton, Portugal, Hungary. He didnt miss a single pen in the prem last year. And same for the year before that.

    Well said. The Lampard Bashing has hit new lows.
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    Post by Murray Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:25 pm

    Too bad for Lamps that penalties can't be deflected. Then he'd never miss.
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    Post by Tom Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:44 pm

    Murray wrote:Too bad for Lamps that penalties can't be deflected. Then he'd never miss.

    Frank Lampard:
    Penalties For West-Ham from in-game spot;

    Taken:13
    Scored:12

    Penalties For Chelsea from in-game spot;

    Taken: 21
    Scored: 19

    i beg to differ on your comments.

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