Have Juve caught up with Inter??

Diego is the one that got away, while Inter focussed on the likes of Deco

Good business by Juve, poor planning by Inter.

I think Juve have surpassed Inter, in terms of starting XI.

The only question mark is Ferrara as coach. That is where Inter have the edge.

Milan are not even close right now.

Mourinho should not be left in charge of transfers. He simply is not cut out for it.

juve has the better midfield, inter has the better defense and attack

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I think Juve have surpassed Inter, in terms of starting XI.

The only question mark is Ferrara as coach. That is where Inter have the edge.

Milan are not even close right now.

I agree, but Inter are going to buy 2-3 players now, while Juve are just after 1 FB. So this could change. I expect 2 regular starters from our new purchases. I would be satisfied with Carvalho, Hamsik, & Arnautovic, the likely names in the rumour mill.

Yeah, next season is going to be close between Inter and Juve. Too close to call now.

kas wrote:For me Juve's lineup definitely looks more exciting than Inter. Is that definitely the formation they will play?

I think its likely, tho they will probably start Camoranesi ahead of Iaquinta, and make it into a 4-2-3-1 instead of a 4-3-3.

bluenine wrote:Diego is the one that got away, while Inter focussed on the likes of Deco

Good business by Juve, poor planning by Inter.

When the Juve interest became concrete Bremen fans were hoping for an offer from Inter. After all Mourinho knows Diego quite well; it was him, who brought him to Europe back then at Porto, he knew him form his first CL season for Bremen, when we beat Chelsea at home, and he knew him from his third CL season for us when we were in the same group with Inter. And Mourinho's system at Inter is a midfield diamond, the same system like in Bremen.

Why AC Milan didn't make an offer is also beyond me. I mean, they still more or less had Kaka when we sold Diego to Juve, but I think it didn't take much foresight to see that Kaka was on his way to Real. They could have bought Diego for maybe 35m, and after selling Jesus to Real, they would still have had 33m Euro left to spend for further improvements then.

Either that or 4-3-1-2. Melo and Cannavaro are certainly improvements, while Diego is a good replacement for Nedved (despite being a different style of player). Could do with a new RB and some of their CM players are a bit subpar.

As for Inter, still a little sceptical about Motta. Milito is a decent short term buy and should be an improvement on Cruz/Crespo/Adriano from last season. Still think they should buy that creative midfielder.

chrissicross wrote:
Why AC Milan didn't make an offer is also beyond me. I mean, they still more or less had Kaka when we sold Diego to Juve, but I think it didn't take much foresight to see that Kaka was on his way to Real. They could have bought Diego for maybe 35m, and after selling Jesus to Real, they would still have had 33m Euro left to spend for further improvements then.

Man if you think that Juve are bad and stingy, you'd be shocked from a potential Milan offer. And not in a positive way.

Baldie would have offered you guys around 17-18M max or a loan with an option to buy or something. If you really pushed him you might have gotten him to include one of his 'champions' like Didaster or Calamity Kaladze in the deal.

Of course whoever is in charge of your transfers would reject that and Galliani would say that you guys are asking for the moon. He would then repeat for the 32194712947219 time that "we're fine as we are" and "we have many champions".

He wouldn't spend 35M on a player even if it was a prime Pele or Maradona.

Inter can't be retarded enough to leave all the creating up to Zlatan (with sporadic help from Maicon) again, can they?

Juve are now better in attack & midfield.

Cesar has matched Buffon over the past 2 seasons, and Inter deffo have the advantage in defence.

If Trezeguet stays at Juventus then definitely we have a better attack than Inter. Melo is yet to be officially confirmed but given that it will most probably happen, we now have a solid midfield both creatively and defensively. But Inter do have an edge over Juve in the defense but a very slight one. IMO we need to keep Grygera and ensure we sign Grosso as it is being rumored. That will probably make us stronger, at least on paper, than Inter. Secco has surprised me this season but I also believe that Ferrarra has a role to play in demanding the players that are getting signed by Juve. Can't wait to see him start the new campaign.

But one has to keep in mind that Inter will eventually sign a player or two. They are just shy of a creative midfielder in order to complete their squad.

Red n' Black wrote:

chrissicross wrote:
Why AC Milan didn't make an offer is also beyond me. I mean, they still more or less had Kaka when we sold Diego to Juve, but I think it didn't take much foresight to see that Kaka was on his way to Real. They could have bought Diego for maybe 35m, and after selling Jesus to Real, they would still have had 33m Euro left to spend for further improvements then.

Man if you think that Juve are bad and stingy, you'd be shocked from a potential Milan offer. And not in a positive way.

Baldie would have offered you guys around 17-18M max or a loan with an option to buy or something. If you really pushed him you might have gotten him to include one of his 'champions' like Didaster or Calamity Kaladze in the deal.

Of course whoever is in charge of your transfers would reject that and Galliani would say that you guys are asking for the moon. He would then repeat for the 32194712947219 time that "we're fine as we are" and "we have many champions".

He wouldn't spend 35M on a player even if it was a prime Pele or Maradona.

Didn't you just offer Wolfsburg 30m Euro for Dzeko, and aren't you the ones who paid 20m for a 17 years old Brazilian kid about two years ago plus another 20m for Bugs Bunny last year?

Anyway, forget what I said with regard to Milan and Diego then.

chrissicross wrote:
Didn't you just offer Wolfsburg 30m Euro for Dzeko, and aren't you the ones who paid 20m for a 17 years old Brazilian kid about two years ago plus another 20m for Bugs Bunny last year?

Yeah we did spend big on Pato, but Leonardo insisted that he has amazing potential and we should get him no matter what. Probably one of the few right things the management has done as of late.

Dinho was Berlusconi's fetish for years. That transfer also had huge commercial benefits, since he is a global superstar(despite being on the decline).

About Dzeko, I dunno how much we were willing to spend, I've read about 20-something million.

I just don't think we would spend 35M on a player these days, seeing how B&G operate. iirc we only spend that much once, on Rui Costa and that was eight years ago.

The 4-2-3-1 formation suits Juventus the most. The important advantage in this is that all 3 of Del Piero, Giovinco and Iaquinta are capable of playing in all of the AM or striker positions. So that give us tactical versatility as well as rotation options.

buffon

grygera canna chiellini grosso/molinaro

melo sissoko

camoranesi diego/del piero giovinco

amauri/trez/iaquinta

I don't really think you need Grosso. He is 32 and is actually pretty weak defensively. De Ceglie looked good last season - he should be given the opportunity with Molinaro as a backup.

Apparently the Melo deal is in doubt because Fiorentina can't agree terms with Marchionni

An attacking RB is needed in that formation Tarun, someone to compete with Grygera.

I completely agree DS. Ideally we need to cover both the RB and LB positions. Painful as it sounds, we have Zebina as a back-up for Grygera
But I doubt if the management is looking to sign a RB at the moment.

DS wrote:An attacking RB is needed in that formation Tarun, someone to compete with Grygera.

Defensively, I don't see much of a difference between De Ceglie and Molinaro. Against all criticism, Molinaro had some decent performances last season. Though it would be good to have De Ceglie get more starts and time on the pitch given the talent he promises, but I think Juventus is more interested in experience at the moment and that's why Grosso is a likely candidate. And Grosso is surely a plus over either of them both defensively or going forward. Also, it seems he might be available for 2Mn

And thank god that Dossena is out of contention!!!

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:I don't really think you need Grosso. He is 32 and is actually pretty weak defensively. De Ceglie looked good last season - he should be given the opportunity with Molinaro as a backup.