Eduardo charged for diving

Where's the north-south dividing line? Watford Gap?

We're got reservoirs Kimbo. And there's even a desalinisation plant down in Bexley.

Have you ever provided proof that this shitting in bags ever happenend? i think you were told a story as a kid or something

Tweedle wrote:Where's the north-south dividing line? Watford Gap?

We're got reservoirs Kimbo. And there's even a desalinisation plant down in Bexley.

Well yes, everything north of Watford is "da norf" to you lot. If you have reservoirs why do you have a hose pipe ban when it doesn't rain for 3 days?

Tweedle wrote:
We have the blacks. We'd just use them as a cannon fodder like the Russians did in WWII. Then, once the northerners have run out of ammo, we'd DESTROY them

There are more Ledley Kings than Sol Campbells. And what will you do with the TS's? They'd smell the coffee, they don't trust you anyway, and they all can run fast!

The northern Indians & Pakistanis are tougher than the southern ones, too. The latter are busy buying property, while the former burn everything down.

L r dd wrote:Have you ever provided proof that this shitting in bags ever happenend? i think you were told a story as a kid or something

It was on news, i swear on all that is holy!!

Tweedle wrote:If there was a north vs south Europe war we'd pound the southern's

(the southern's are welcome to France)

France to the south then? They arent really that greasy, at least not north of France.

Kimbo wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Where's the north-south dividing line? Watford Gap?

We're got reservoirs Kimbo. And there's even a desalinisation plant down in Bexley.

Well yes, everything north of Watford is "da norf" to you lot. If you have reservoirs why do you have a hose pipe ban when it doesn't rain for 3 days?

The hose pipe ban was a government conspiracy to try and bring the communities together through shared spirit - bit like WWII.

Kimbo wrote:We wouldn't even need to pound them, just stop giving them water and food.

Day 1: Hose pipe ban
Day 2: Shitting in bags
Day 3: No water for tea and pasta
Day 4: Dehydration sets in
Day 5: They surrender

The 5 day war.

I laughed. Hard.

Just get the Millwall & West Ham firms to defend London, that should be more than enough

MadVillain wrote:

Just get the Millwall & West Ham firms to defend London, that should be more than enough

To ensure the Pot Bellies win

There wouldn't be much of a force left if you lined up Deano's mates alongside a few Millwall fans

COTR #6 wrote:

MadVillain wrote:

Just get the Millwall & West Ham firms to defend London, that should be more than enough

To ensure the Pot Bellies win

There wouldn't be much of a force left if you lined up Deano's mates alongside a few Millwall fans

Early sacrifice before the real battle begins

Good they charged him, hope they punish him severly. Hope evne more so they'll do it with everybody else who dives. Also for national teams.

De Guzman wrote:Good they charged him, hope they punish him severly. Hope evne more so they'll do it with everybody else who dives. Also for national teams.

And this is the thing. More than happy for Eduardo to be punished for diving, as long as it is consistently applied. I very much doubt every player who dives is going to get a ban now, indeed I very much doubt every player who commits an obvious dive is going to get a ban. It's just a case of it being a high-profile issue, stirred up by the media.

Luckily, Wenger didn't see it

Sheffield gunner wrote:

De Guzman wrote:Good they charged him, hope they punish him severly. Hope evne more so they'll do it with everybody else who dives. Also for national teams.

And this is the thing. More than happy for Eduardo to be punished for diving, as long as it is consistently applied. I very much doubt every player who dives is going to get a ban now, indeed I very much doubt every player who commits an obvious dive is going to get a ban. It's just a case of it being a high-profile issue, stirred up by the media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVthv1RqHqo

wot happened bout this absolutely fack all

Best. Dive. Ever

And he's not even greasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpTcl1cC4E&feature=related

I particularly like this one as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W00d3yJKl4&feature=PlayList&p=E5F2E07C33FD054D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=54

Quite a shit dive

these have some awful playacting/diving in them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyt2zzm530

Enjoyed the headbutting bit

thanx for posting that one.

1 of the most disgraceful things in footy.

If it was up to me they gave a 1 year ban for clear cut cases. Guess some countries would object to that.

Funny stuff. That Steven Taylor one where he pretended to be sniped to make it look like he didn't handle it was beautiful.

I've always liked the contraditon between Latino macho culture & their love for diving/playacting, which is very girly in my book.

Germany obviously deserves to become an honorary member of the Axis of Grease

Holzenbein

A country that gave birth to Robben really shouldn't accuse anyone else of diving. For eternity.

De Guzman wrote: Latino macho culture .

Though obviously he isn't a great representative of anything Latin or indeed human

DD wrote:these have some awful playacting/diving in them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyt2zzm530

Enjoyed the headbutting bit

HARD MAN VIDIC!

DD wrote:these have some awful playacting/diving in them as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyt2zzm530

Enjoyed the headbutting bit

The first goalkeeper clip, and the last clip are particularly amazing.

Anyway, to me the greasy line divides those who are always reminded of their sins from those who are always in denial.

One of the best dive ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbv9vembLA&feature=PlayList&p=9460BB11ADF195EE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

Alive and Kicking wrote:One of the best dive ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbv9vembLA&feature=PlayList&p=9460BB11ADF195EE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

Gattuso was acually complaining to the ref !

September 2, 2009
Eduardo ban the worst case of Uefa bungling, says Patrick Barclay

Times Chief Football Commentator delivers his verdict on Uefa's decision to retrospectively ban the Arsenal striker for diving. He talks to Ben Smith

Is the two-match European ban a brave judgment or a stupid one? And do Uefa have any hope of upholding this ruling?

It is a cowardly judgment that was made simply to appease the English press. Uefa will find it very difficult to show any consistency going forward.

The general principle before this incident seems to have been that there should be no retrospective judgment if a referee has seen an incident during play. But in the Eduardo case the referee did see it. Therefore, it should not have been reviewed. But it was reviewed. What that means is that Uefa has made a rod for itself, leaving the governing body in a ridiculous position.

From now on every incident of diving, even if it is spotted by the referee, will have to be punished by a two-match suspension - even if it is only a yellow card offence in the rule book. So does that mean you hand out suspensions every time a referee books a player for diving?

It is the worst piece of judicial bungling I have ever come across in all my years of covering football.

Will Uefa now come unstuck over less obvious cases of diving?

Eduardo's dive wasn't clear. It was quite a shock to return from the Champions League draw and see the incident so many witnesses had condemned. The first time I watched it was in the Sky TV studio before filming Sunday Supplement. There were four journalists there, now bear in mind you can't get four journalists to agree on anything, but we all said we couldn't be 100 per cent certain it was dive.

So how Uefa, with the benefit of the replays we saw, came to the conclusion they did is beyond belief. I can only assume the witch-hunt mentality that Arsene Wenger has alluded to has spread to Uefa, which personally I find very worrying. I have never known such a mess.

How will Uefa police this in the future?

Uefa appear to favour retrospective punishment to video assistance for referees during matches, when wrongs could actually be righted on the advice of the fourth official. But Michel Platini is against video assistance full stop, so we will see more additional assistants, known as AARs, introduced. This policy does offer hope of a substantial improvement in justice without the hazards of video, so I like the concept.

An official on the goalline may have spotted the Eduardo incident and it could have been addressed immediately.

Where does all this leave the referees?

It is very difficult for a referee to police the rules as they stand, without having to play God by getting into players' heads. There are times when there is no contact and you can see with a certain degree of certainty that was a dive but most of the time that is not the case even with the aid of video evidence.

The referees are in an extremely difficult position and Uefa have set the most dangerous precedent imaginable.

How will this play out from here?

Uefa have got two choices: what they should do is overturn their decision and allow Arsenal's appeal. But what they will do is probably reduce Eduardo's ban to one match - which is the worst outcome of all.

To take the step of admitting they have mishandled the situation is probably beyond Uefa. If they did have any honour and decency they would admit they have got this wrong. What they will probably do is uphold their ruling, maybe reducing it to a one-match ban, and then they will not touch diving again. Uefa will just hope this has the salutary effect and hope they can ride it out.

What does this mean for the wider game?

There was an incident in the Bolton Wanderers v Liverpool game on Saturday when Fernando Torres was brilliantly tackled by Zat Knight in the penalty area. The tackle was clean but slightly from behind, so Torres went over Knight's outstretched leg and took a tumble. Torres made no attempt to claim a penalty and the referee waved play on. But Knight and Gary Cahill then stood over Torres calling him a diver and we are going to get a lot more of that from now on.

Because of Uefa's ruling, those players, ie the ones calling Torres a diver, could be banned for two matches for simulation. Which means "acting with obvious intent to make any match official make an incorrect decision". So if we were going to be consistent, Knight and Cahill would be looking at a two-match ban. It is a crazy situation.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6818782.ece

Will Uefa now come unstuck over less obvious cases of diving?

Eduardo's dive wasn't clear.



Wasn't it?